SupraStar 3000 Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 Good post Carlos, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 Excellent post. I hope things are sorted in your favour. FWIW I think you guys could never be paid enough for what amounts to heading into the sort of situations human beings instinctively run from. Can I ask you to clarify something though? When you say 'clowns' are you talking about trained FFs, scabs or some kind of back-up service run by AssetCo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 I think the irony in my post is lost on you. I marched that day. Really thought it would achieve something. It didn't. A million people really could be 'wrong'. 2 million - I was one of them too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 He was the one in the pink lycra bodysuit with a rainbow flag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy-No-Knee Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 Excellent post. I hope things are sorted in your favour. FWIW I think you guys could never be paid enough for what amounts to heading into the sort of situations human beings instinctively run from. Can I ask you to clarify something though? When you say 'clowns' are you talking about trained FFs, scabs or some kind of back-up service run by AssetCo? Cheers. I mean the Asset Co service, they are called the Emergancy Fire Crew Capability Service. They are also the scabs. As far as I know there were only 1 or 2 FF's that worked. A FF in London gets 4 months full time training before they leave training school. then 4 years on the job training before they get taken off probation. The clowns got 2 weeks 3 months ago and then 2 days just before the strike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 Well if you want the truth.... I am an officer in the LFB........... others because they just got plain lost. http://sportalert.bbc.net.uk/local/london/hi/people_and_places/newsid_9117000/9117863.stm Some of the numbers quoted on the BBC link are different. For example - 5 years pay freeze as supposed to 2 like you report - so if its 5, it actually worse than you say. 9M as supposed to 12M for Asset Co. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 He was the one in the pink lycra bodysuit with a rainbow flag sorry paul, I don't share the same dress code as you - every though you would love for both of us to be the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy-No-Knee Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 http://sportalert.bbc.net.uk/local/london/hi/people_and_places/newsid_9117000/9117863.stm Some of the numbers quoted on the BBC link are different. For example - 5 years pay freeze as supposed to 2 like you report - so if its 5, it actually worse than you say. 9M as supposed to 12M for Asset Co. A lot of the information in the press in incorrect. The information is given to them by the 50+ manned 'PR Dept' of the LFB. 5 years ago it was staffed by 10 people, why they need that many I will never know but I can hazzard a few guesses!!! I think the director is called Herr Doktor Gorbells. :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradleyh_15 Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 Good luck Carlos mate I'm in the ESFRS and we have just been through a review and thankfully things that could have been put into place that pit public and fire fighters safety at risk never got past the fire authority thankfully! Also on the point of asset co I can't believe that they would be let to do what has been suggested! Puts them and the public at serious risk! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 I'm appalled that they will be on strike that night. As a human I have human rights and with no sense of self-discipline or restraint, this is the one night of the year I like to a*** about with petrol, bonfires and cheap chinese fireworks. Surely its my basic human right to be rescued when I set fire to myself, my property or anything else in range due to my own idiocy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagman Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 Superb post Carlos,and shows the spin that is the modern press! -problem is the masses believe the spin and are losing the ability to think for themselves.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 And to top it off it doesnt really help when you get shouts to a car on fire only to get bricked by chavs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 -problem is stupid people believe the spin and are losing the ability to think for themselves.... I've amended your paragraph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 Sounds like a good night to go around killing things with fire then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy-No-Knee Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 And to top it off it doesnt really help when you get shouts to a car on fire only to get bricked by chavs Mate!!! You know it!! The worst car job I had was as above but the little 'darlings' had also put a full propane cylinder in the car back seat as well. Luckily we saw it before it went off and managed to do the Monty Python Knights Who Say Niii! thing....by shouting Run Away Run Away!!!! loudly! Just as we hid behind the appliance....KABOOOM! The only time I have ever seen a car fire go bang like they do in the films. The police did thier stuff though, they found out who did it and knicked them. Also had a tv, washing machine and 'stuff' dropped on me from the balconys of high rise flats when we turn up at a job. Smoke punching out of the flats windows and dodging flying/falling kitchen appliances! Joy! Though the worst one of all..... A flat fire in Holloway, had a hidden 'bedroom', read sex dungon with the Gimp chained to the wall. I was running the BA crews and kept getting messages from the ground floor holding area that the occupier who had poped out to the shops was saying that his 'partner' was in the flat. I sent about 4 crews (8 FF's) in to search what I thought was a 2 bed flat with no one found. After the fire was out I was taking the fire investigation chap about in the flat (and having a good look myself for any possible chard remains) and we heard a muffled coughing and a faint knocking in the wall of the kitchen. We found hidden behind a bookcase a hidden door, when we opened it there was.....the gimp. Leather chaps, bear ass upwards, bent over a horses saddle handcuffed to a ring in the wall with a gag on. Turns out he and his lover had a tiff, the other bloke went out to get some fags and the one who stayed in set the fire and then locked himself in thier play room. :eek: Got sent down for it as well as he had done it 2 or 3 times before. Bet he has a bum hole like a wizards sleave now..... :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 Perverted stuff.... Be he has a bum hole like a wizards sleave now..... :blink: Was it Ed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septic Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 I think the irony in my post is lost on you. I marched that day. Really thought it would achieve something. It didn't. A million people really could be 'wrong'. I was there too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 when we opened it there was.....the gimp. Leather chaps, bear ass upwards, bent over a horses saddle handcuffed to a ring in the wall with a gag on. Did you have a go Andy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 He reached in and installed a smoke alarm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 A flat fire in Holloway, had a hidden 'bedroom', read sex dungon with the Gimp chained to the wall. I was running the BA crews and kept getting messages from the ground floor holding area that the occupier who had poped out to the shops was saying that his 'partner' was in the flat. I sent about 4 crews (8 FF's) in to search what I thought was a 2 bed flat with no one found. After the fire was out I was taking the fire investigation chap about in the flat (and having a good look myself for any possible chard remains) and we heard a muffled coughing and a faint knocking in the wall of the kitchen. We found hidden behind a bookcase a hidden door, when we opened it there was.....the gimp. Leather chaps, bear ass upwards, bent over a horses saddle handcuffed to a ring in the wall with a gag on. Turns out he and his lover had a tiff, the other bloke went out to get some fags and the one who stayed in set the fire and then locked himself in thier play room. :eek: Got sent down for it as well as he had done it 2 or 3 times before. Be he has a bum hole like a wizards sleave now..... :blink: IMI's place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy-No-Knee Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 Craig, you know how it is....walking along naked with a hard on and suddenly you trip and....'OMG I have fallen in his butt!' Or that was how you explained it to me last time wasnt it??? :eyebrows: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOB B Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 I'm in the Hampshire Brigade and Carlos has covered most of the points very well. Its not over pay, we all realise that sacrifices have to be made everywhere, but people also don't realise that if we (the fire service) are not careful there will soon be only 4 FF on a truck. If there is only one truck initially at an incident, and due to restrictions being placed upon us, there wouldn't be enough to carry out a safe rescue of anyone who becomes trapped, lives WILL be at risk then, on a regular basis. There is a lot going on behind the scenes that the general public does not hear about, most of us are in this job because, (like all the other services) we really do want to help, trust me it's not the pay that keeps us doing it. There are many reasons why LFB are striking and they have the backing of most of the Ff in the rest of the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 Craig, you know how it is....walking along naked with a hard on and suddenly you trip and....'OMG I have fallen in his butt!' Or that was how you explained it to me last time wasnt it??? :eyebrows: Im keeping quiet... Sound slike something that would happen to Ed though lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 IMI's place the one the you and usama rent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 the one the you and usama rent LOL, I'd have let the place burn down after chucking the other bloke back in there, weirdos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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