gurnam Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Hi guys, As per my previous thread, the oil seals have failed on my first turbo so I'm in the process of getting both of my tubbys rebuilt by CR Turbos to hybrids with steel wheels (after many happy customers on here & other forums). I've heard turbo removal is a pretty long job & diffcult depending on how seized the nuts and bolts are (I've been spraying them each day with WD40 though up to the day they get removed) so I'm going to pay a well known company in my region to remove them and refit the hybrids when they return. What I need to know is: Will the tubby gaskets need replacing? If they do, which ones? Is £300 enough to get a mechanic to remove the turbos and replace with hybrids once they return? If not, what's a realistic price? Can the oil and water lines be re-used? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pistonbroke Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 replace all the oil/coolant feeds/drain gaskets. Including where the Y pipe from the turbos goes back into the sump. I left this one on mine and it failed after removing and refitting the turbos causing quite a drastic leak. If you haven't changed all the vacuum hoses already, get some new hose, as the original stuff goes brittle and hard making them split when removed. That's all I can think of at the moment. If I think of anything else, I'll let you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurnam Posted October 25, 2010 Author Share Posted October 25, 2010 Thanks mate. I'll look into getting hold of braided oil & water feeds then. Already have a shit load of silicone hose so that's covered. Do you know anyone on here that sells these feeds? Will probably get an oil & filter change done at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pistonbroke Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 The oil and water feeds are metal pipes You just want the gaskets for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaqTRD Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Hi mate, The exact same thing happen to my car. I ended up putting a second hand number 1 turbo in to it myself but it didnt last very long. Your doing a smart thing by getting hybrids from CR Turbos fitted. However, if I were you, I would strip the old turbos out and then get your garage to fit the new ones in as it will save you half the labour cost. Its not very hard. Its was the first mechanical job I ever tackled and its honestly not that hard to do. If I could do it, anyone can. Also, I have 2 sets of damaged turbos and almost all the metal pipe work and actuators etc... from when I did mine. So you if you need any parts, feel free to take mine free of charge. Good luck with it dude! Saq Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaqTRD Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 I know the turbos would be no good as they are damaged, but as they are going to be rebuild, if your turbos aren't in great shape its no point getting those fixed. Also, I can bet you that the first turbos exhaust housing would have a crack in it as they all tend to crack. Mine had the same. The garage I spoke to said I should source a new one as its no point putting brand new turbos back on with a cracking housing. Might be worth looking in to if you decide to strip them down yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurnam Posted October 25, 2010 Author Share Posted October 25, 2010 Thanks. I'm very tempted to tackle the job myself and save a load of cash. Just heard a lot of the bolts are extremely hard to get off and will break easily. Is there a turbo removal guide anywhere on here? I can't seem to find one. Thanks for the offer SaqTRD, I might just take you up on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Doom Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Thanks. Is there a turbo removal guide anywhere on here? I can't seem to find one. http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=82952 This includes a pretty comprehensive guide to removing the stock turbos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 I personally didnt find the nuts siezed but access is a bitch. As above with fresh gaskets and hoses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen-Jm-Imports Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 we can take the turbos out and fit new ones all in a day, have a go ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaqTRD Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 I used TLicense's guide and its very well documented! Honestly you might as well give it a go and start stripping it. If you get into it and then think its too much, then give it to a garage to finish stripping. At least that way you know you gave it a shot. Go for it mate, if you have any questions on how to get to bolts and stuff feel free to PM me or i'm sure guys on this forum will be able to answer anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurnam Posted October 25, 2010 Author Share Posted October 25, 2010 (edited) Think I'm going to give it a miss guys purely because I don't have any of the tools needed or even a car jack at all Will get new gaskets ordered and get a quote from the fitter. Will also get hold of the oil & water turbo pipes. All the IC pipes also need coming off due to them being full of excess oil and the IC core will need to be cleaned out properly which means the whole front bumper needs coming off. Edited October 26, 2010 by gurnam (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurnam Posted November 5, 2010 Author Share Posted November 5, 2010 Right the mechanic has now removed both turbos. Didn't say any of thye housings were cracked at all which is good news. Decided not to use CR Turbos as found a local turbo company called Turbo Force closer to me that worked out £130 cheaper than CR. Just waiting for them to return them to my mechanic and it'll all be put together again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 130 isnt a lot when youre getting quality work, as proven by many people But best of luck with them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pistonbroke Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 But nice or buy twice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Doom Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 Did you manage to get new gaskets etc? I'll be replacing my turbos very soon so if you could put the part numbers up it would be a great help Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 You cant buy them individually afaik, you just get a complete turbo gasket kit from Toyota Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurnam Posted November 5, 2010 Author Share Posted November 5, 2010 Gasket kit costs an absolute fortune on these cars. I got given a price of £250 and that wasn't even from a Toyota dealer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurnam Posted November 5, 2010 Author Share Posted November 5, 2010 130 isnt a lot when youre getting quality work, as proven by many people But best of luck with them To me it's a fair bit of cash saved. I know many others local to me who have used this company successfully for recon turbo work. They also offer the same 12 month warranty as CR so I'd be crazy not to take advantage of their ace prices. Once the cars back on the road, I'll be getting it dyno'd at under a bar of boost and will post up the results along with the boost graphs etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 (edited) Gasket kit costs an absolute fortune on these cars. I got given a price of £250 and that wasn't even from a Toyota dealer. That price must have been for a complete engine rebuild kit, which includes all gaskets, seals, etc. Toyota do a head rebuild kit which is about half that price that includes head gasket, stem seals, intake manifold gaskets, exhaust manifold gaskets, cam seals, etc. Edited November 5, 2010 by Nic (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Doom Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 That price must have been for a complete engine rebuild kit, which includes all gaskets, seals, etc. Toyota do a head rebuild kit which is about half that price that includes head gasket, stem seals, intake manifold gaskets, exhaust manifold gaskets, cam seals, etc. http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=68756&d=1198717879 http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=68757&d=1198717879 http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=68758&d=1198717879 Does that one include the gaskets for the turbos etc as well Nic? Or is that available in a different kit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwilkinson Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 Gasket kit costs an absolute fortune on these cars. I got given a price of £250 and that wasn't even from a Toyota dealer. Shop around. Thats a little high. Have you tried Steve Manley or Paul Whiffin. Might be able to get a kit slightly cheaper than that. Does that one include the gaskets for the turbos etc as well Nic? Or is that available in a different kit? I don't think the head rebuild kit comes with the turbo gaskets and seals. You will need to buy the various parts individually or buy the engine gasket set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 Does that one include the gaskets for the turbos etc as well Nic? Or is that available in a different kit? There is a separate kit that includes all the turbo gaskets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurnam Posted November 5, 2010 Author Share Posted November 5, 2010 (edited) The price I got quoted was for the gaskets and the hard pipes. The whole thing itself is costing me so much as turbos are £823, labour is £500, then these gaskets are gonna bump the total price close to £1500! Edited November 5, 2010 by gurnam (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwilkinson Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 There is a separate kit that includes all the turbo gaskets. Do you know the part number for this Nic? I assume the engine gasket kit includes all the turbo parts too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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