swandip Posted October 20, 2010 Author Share Posted October 20, 2010 Like I always say James, the car is as fast as it is, the dyno is just for tuneing and so we know if we are improving or going backwards and how the car is running. Cheers Dude, still its nice to know the investment is paying off and appreciate the work you guys are doing at AFR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 Cheers Dude, still its nice to know the investment is paying off and appreciate the work you guys are doing at AFR. We aim to please, now all we need to do is get some 1/4 mile times or more to the point terminal speeds:innocent: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigelboyne Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 great result mate can you shed anymore light on the turbos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 Very impressive result James and dude, got to be happy with that! Dude, where in your opinion has the extra 30bhp come from? No one I'm aware of in the UK has got much more than 450bhp (well on a proper dyno anyway!), the spec is a lot higher than we've seen on other hybrid cars so this is a bit unique in that sense Any chance someone could post the torque graph, would be interesting to see it through the rev range Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Very impressive result James and dude, got to be happy with that! Dude, where in your opinion has the extra 30bhp come from? No one I'm aware of in the UK has got much more than 450bhp (well on a proper dyno anyway!), the spec is a lot higher than we've seen on other hybrid cars so this is a bit unique in that sense Any chance someone could post the torque graph, would be interesting to see it through the rev range I suppose you could say its a completley fresh engine, James has done just over 1000 miles and before we cranked the boost up we compression tested it and every cylinder was around 185 psi, also all the valves have been re seated, i suppose the mapping may also help;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Very impressive. I know Terry S was pushing 500BHP on hybrids on his old car years ago. Don't think Ian C's old setup would have been too far behind that either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Very impressive. I know Terry S was pushing 500BHP on hybrids on his old car years ago. Don't think Ian C's old setup would have been too far behind that either. I'll talk to Terry later and see what he managed to get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 I'll talk to Terry later and see what he managed to get. How's he doing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Very impressive. I would have thought the flow through the stock turbo housing would have limited such power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellybean Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Nigle with the UK Spec Car was running at 1.4 bar on stock UK Turbos He got 435 rwhp on the Dyno Pack in Northern Ireland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Nigle with the UK Spec Car was running at 1.4 bar on stock UK Turbos He got 435 rwhp on the Dyno Pack in Northern Ireland I thought his car was mapped and dynoed at TDI? 435rwhp works out to be about 494fwhp. Add 10bhp to the rwhp figure and divide by .88 has always worked out about right imo, fwhp is alway a guess, the only true figure is rwhp but if everyone uses the same conversion factor all is good. interested in what swandips rwhp was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellybean Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 I thought his car was mapped and dynoed at TDI? 435rwhp works out to be about 494fwhp. Add 10bhp to the rwhp figure and divide by .88 has always worked out about right imo, fwhp is alway a guess, the only true figure is rwhp but if everyone uses the same conversion factor all is good. interested in what swandips rwhp was. It was indeed mapped and dynoed at TDI plus a few BPU mods I am nearly sure Nigle has everything done to BPU level; the Cams are Stock too but she is very low mileage only around 40 miles I think So maybe as Dude said the Fresh Engines help with a few Horses I was happy I could keep toe to toe with Him on road Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 It was indeed mapped and dynoed at TDI plus a few BPU mods I am nearly sure Nigle has everything done to BPU level; the Cams are Stock too but she is very low mileage only around 40 miles I think So maybe as Dude said the Fresh Engines help with a few Horses I was happy I could keep toe to toe with Him on road TDI use a Rototest dyno, Not Dynapack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellybean Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 TDI use a Rototest dyno, Not Dynapack The 435 was in Northern Ireland at ttp://www.torquetronix.co.uk/ On a Dynapack Dimitri Maps cars there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 So what did he make at TDI where it was mapped? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellybean Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 So what did he make at TDI where it was mapped? It was close , it was only done recently prior the NI meet too but he may of got a fresh service before the Dyna Pack Just slighlty lower 420 I think He did mention the Remap was the biggest waste of money getting the Vpro piggy back, didnt see any difference for the $ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 How's he doing? Terry's doing fine dude, we chat quite often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 I thought his car was mapped and dynoed at TDI? 435rwhp works out to be about 494fwhp. Add 10bhp to the rwhp figure and divide by .88 has always worked out about right imo, fwhp is alway a guess, the only true figure is rwhp but if everyone uses the same conversion factor all is good. interested in what swandips rwhp was. 404 rwhp JP, Matt is putting it back on the dyno as there was more to come at 1.4 bar and I just spoke to CR who say up to 1.6 is fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 404 rwhp JP, Matt is putting it back on the dyno as there was more to come at 1.4 bar and I just spoke to CR who say up to 1.6 is fine. 404rwhp is superb on a dyno dynamics, they do call it the "heart breaker" dyno compared to others. Well done guys, interested to see what it does at 1.6bar, is it back on the dyno today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 404rwhp is superb on a dyno dynamics, they do call it the "heart breaker" dyno compared to others. Well done guys, interested to see what it does at 1.6bar, is it back on the dyno today? Its gone for an MOT, depends when we get it back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swandip Posted October 21, 2010 Author Share Posted October 21, 2010 404 rwhp JP, Matt is putting it back on the dyno as there was more to come at 1.4 bar and I just spoke to CR who say up to 1.6 is fine. Watching this with interest Dude, what do CR test the hybrids up to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Watching this with interest Dude, what do CR test the hybrids up to. Like ive said they are quite happy for us to take them to 1.6 bar, wether that is worthwhile will remain to be seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pistonbroke Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 I'm also running CR turbo hybrids. I can't see that enough of the design has changed though to make them flow more efficiently at higher boost. The manifold that the turbos bolt too is still the same tiny holed restrictive self that it started off with, so I'm guessing you're just going to get a lot of hot air at higher boost pressures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Supra_07 Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Quote: Originally Posted by dude 404 rwhp JP, Matt is putting it back on the dyno as there was more to come at 1.4 bar and I just spoke to CR who say up to 1.6 is fine. Humm iv blown 6 turbos running that fella two of them where hybirds. If you what safety take it back down to 1.2. Iv gone single now as I kep blowing them up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Quote: Originally Posted by dude 404 rwhp JP, Matt is putting it back on the dyno as there was more to come at 1.4 bar and I just spoke to CR who say up to 1.6 is fine. Humm iv blown 6 turbos running that fella two of them where hybirds. If you what safety take it back down to 1.2. Iv gone single now as I kep blowing them up. Thanks for your concern but they are under warranty so Im not bothered;) If I get a problem with my car can I give you a ring for some advice:blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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