Gaz6002 Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Sue Sainsburys. Tut, tut! It's comments like that that really hack me off. Max compensation! Aaaaarrrggghhhhhhhhhhhhh!!! Be happy with your £170 and get on with your life. Just look where you're walking and look at what you're eating. Don't become another parasite that's responsible for everybody's ruddy insurance bills going through the roof. Trot on! Just for the record, ellis has it spot on IMO. My post was in jest, I didn't think you'd take it seriously The culture around personal claims is ruining our economy. For instance, it's the single biggest reason our insurance costs so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra_aero Posted November 1, 2010 Author Share Posted November 1, 2010 Sh1t happens every day mate - it's how you deal with it that sets people apart. I've had a half a tooth fall off last week but I'm undecided who to blame: Cadburys for all the chocolate I scoffed, Kelloggs for all that pesky Crunchy Nut Cornflakes or Terrorists? I might just sue the lot. Or I might just talk half a day off, pay the dentist to repair it and get on with life. Each to their own Ellis. I appreciate your opinion which is why I posted up here to see what others thought. Its a dog eat dog world. Ultimately Sainsburys did me over with poor product quality control. They are at fault not me. Why should I have to walk around with a silver filling and a sensitive tooth for the rest of my life because they messed up. When you compare my case to this I think I've been done over way worse. Metal in mincemeat is ridiculous. Had it been bone I'd probably brushed it off. But metal is incredibly dangerous. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald%27s_Restaurants Anyway, I'm not saying anymore incase it does go to court. May post final decision up here if this thread doesn't get too heated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martini Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Just a little reminder, being as it's a car forum, I'll make Gaz's post a little clearer... For instance, it's the single biggest reason our insurance costs so much. Everyone I know has had their insurance go up, loads. My girlfriend's has gone from £250 to £500. Bonkers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra_aero Posted November 1, 2010 Author Share Posted November 1, 2010 Just for the record, ellis has it spot on IMO. My post was in jest, I didn't think you'd take it seriously The culture around personal claims is ruining our economy. For instance, it's the single biggest reason our insurance costs so much. I agree with your post re: culture of personal claims in general. I do wonder if you'd feel the same way if you had half your tooth broken off due to metal in mincemeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 I agree with your post re: culture of personal claims in general. I do wonder if you'd feel the same way if you had half your tooth broken off due to metal in mincemeat. Mate, I fractured two vertibrae in a skiing accident whilst teaching and didn't claim. I lost a LOT of money and 18 months of my working career because of that. I've broken more bones than I can count and have never claimed. In fact, I was in a head-on car crash a few weeks ago and didn't claim. Sorry, that arguement doesn't wash with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 The problem is, everyone's taking a slice of the claims pie because it's allowed. It takes a decent person to pass up on a big payout that the other 'scum of the earth' claimants get that don't deserve it, out of moral principle. It's the age old question - would you take the money on the plate, knowing that if you don't, it will just got to the person next in line? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra_aero Posted November 1, 2010 Author Share Posted November 1, 2010 Mate, I fractured two vertibrae in a skiing accident whilst teaching and didn't claim. I lost a LOT of money and 18 months of my working career because of that. I've broken more bones than I can count and have never claimed. In fact, I was in a head-on car crash a few weeks ago and didn't claim. Sorry, that arguement doesn't wash with me. I fail to see the comparison. You chose to participate in a sport which can be dangerous and hurt yourself (skiing). Likewise you drove in a car and had a crash. If it was a drink driver who hit you, would you really not have sued him for damages? I highly doubt you would have passed up the opportunity. Anyway, I can' t see how that compares to finding metal in food where it's certainly not expected. Not being difficult here just can't see the comparison. The problem is, everyone's taking a slice of the claims pie because it's allowed. It takes a decent person to pass up on a big payout that the other 'scum of the earth' claimants get that don't deserve it, out of moral principle. It's the age old question - would you take the money on the plate, knowing that if you don't, it will just got to the person next in line? I agree in part. Decent person is a tad unfair. One persons life may be very happy, coming from a wealthy background where things have always beeen positive so he sees less reason to take the money on the table. Another persons life may have been very very diffferent where he feels short changed in general and bad things happen to him unfairly and unjustly and here is the golden opportunity to reclaim what he feels is long over due. Not saying I am person B just giving examples. It is a difficult one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 I fail to see the comparison. You chose to participate in a sport which can be dangerous and hurt yourself (skiing). Likewise you drove in a car and had a crash. I can' t see how that compares to finding metal in food where it's certainly not expected. Not being difficult here just can't see the comparison. I found a skiing accident when it wasn't expected. You didn't check your food before putting it in your mouth. Swings and roundabouts mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martini Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 You should have bought M&S meat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 I think Gaz is refering to getting paid out 'over the odds' for the incident - am I right? There's obviously a difference between getting back what you're owed (£170 or so), and getting thosands of pounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benkei Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 I don't understand claims... How does money fix anythng? Is it like a magical kiss your mom used to give you as a kid when you fell over to 'make it better'? If they have agreed to pay for your dentisty treatment to put it right, then surely you are even? Same for every circumstance, if they agree to put right what went wrong due to their fault then surely that's enough? Shit happens and you get on with life. What would you do if there was no one to blame? sue yourself? (That'll be the next big thing! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra_aero Posted November 1, 2010 Author Share Posted November 1, 2010 I found a skiing accident when it wasn't expected. You didn't check your food before putting it in your mouth. Swings and roundabouts mate. Heaven forbid you don't crack your tooth on a burger tomorrow gaz You should have bought M&S meat. I should've! I think Gaz is refering to getting paid out 'over the odds' for the incident - am I right? There's obviously a difference between getting back what you're owed (£170 or so), and getting thosands of pounds. I see what you are saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 I think Gaz is refering to getting paid out 'over the odds' for the incident - am I right? There's obviously a difference between getting back what you're owed (£170 or so), and getting thosands of pounds. Well yeah, claiming compensation because you can rather than because you actually NEED it (read: don't work for a bank and drive a big expensive car around) are two different things IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagman Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Live a risk free life - don't eat! As supplied by Viz magazine! Kids don't take this seriously- extreme weightloss might occur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 I don't understand claims... How does money fix anythng? Because in a lot of situations, what has happened can't be undone. So, there's only one other way of rectifying a situation, and that's improving other areas of your life (with the money). It doesn't change what's happened, but it can go a way to getting closure on something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Heaven forbid you don't crack your tooth on a burger tomorrow gaz If I do I'll rest safe in the knowledge that by not claiming, I'm not pushing up our premiums just because everyone else thinks it's OK. Or I'll just have a baguette instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra_aero Posted November 1, 2010 Author Share Posted November 1, 2010 I don't understand claims... How does money fix anythng? Is it like a magical kiss your mom used to give you as a kid when you fell over to 'make it better'? If they have agreed to pay for your dentisty treatment to put it right, then surely you are even? Same for every circumstance, if they agree to put right what went wrong due to their fault then surely that's enough? $#@! happens and you get on with life. What would you do if there was no one to blame? sue yourself? (That'll be the next big thing! ) Sue yourself rlol Don't want to drag this debate out further but in answering your question, the purpose of claims or 'damages' in general is to compensate for the long term affect it has which may not be so obvious at the time of the incident. E.g. Fear of eating meat/mincemeat now Potential financial complications associated with the tooth in the future Fact tooth is now sensitive for life Fact I can no longer model my perfect smile etc.etc. Just giving the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Fear of eating meat/mincemeat now RedM is going to be beside himself! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra_aero Posted November 1, 2010 Author Share Posted November 1, 2010 Well yeah, claiming compensation because you can rather than because you actually NEED it (read: don't work for a bank and drive a big expensive car around) are two different things IMO. I understand.. point taken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 RedM is going to be beside himself! On the contrary, he'll be brushing off an application form for him!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Fear of eating meat/mincemeat now - Balls Potential financial complications associated with the tooth in the future - Ar5e crisps Fact tooth is now sensitive for life - Speculative at best Fact I can no longer model my perfect smile etc.etc. - Gay Just giving my point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra_aero Posted November 1, 2010 Author Share Posted November 1, 2010 Just giving my point I do hope Gaz and ellis are not in the jury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 I do hope Gaz and ellis are not in the jury I do! I'm going to make you eat frozen mincemeat whilst smiling inanely! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benkei Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 I wonder if Sainsbury's will choose to sue you for eating their metals? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martini Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 It doesn't change what's happened, but it can go a way to getting closure on something. And it couldn't be more American. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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