Baz018 Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 As above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 A few have, did you want to know anything in specific? Or is it a poll... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baz018 Posted October 11, 2010 Author Share Posted October 11, 2010 well i could be swapping my w58 for a R154. But is it more hassel then it is worse, Does the prop shaft need modifying, will it fit the w58 mount, I know the shifter needs extending but i have found a company that makes them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobD Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 I'm in the process of fitting a R154 with a TT engine to my NA, you'll need a 1jz bellhousing 7mgte ( I think ) clutch and fly wheel, the front half of a R154 prop and rear half of a w58, slave from a r154 and the shifter extension! What sort of price can you get the shifter extension done for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baz018 Posted October 11, 2010 Author Share Posted October 11, 2010 This is a site for the extension buts its in america. http://store.driftmotion.com/static/i-r154shifterextensionformk4sc300.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 Also about think about beginning the process of converting an Aristo lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baz018 Posted October 11, 2010 Author Share Posted October 11, 2010 This company has also done the conversion, im going to contact them tommorow to see if they will make a shifter extension. http://www.nur-motorsport.co.uk/car_toyotaSUPRA.htm I read the front half of a prop on a r154 to mate with the w58 is still 2 inch short. Any1 know if this is true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve spedd Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 there are people in the uk who will do the shifter for less, you just need to tell them how long you want it extending... i think you need the 7m prop mated with the mkiv prop. which could probably be where the 2" thing is from... i know where you can get the bellhousing from if you need one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Reid Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 I got 3/4 there (i.e bought a R154 and bellhousing + prop), then decided it wasn't significantly cheaper than 6 speeda nd went the 6 speed route. These are the costs:- Used R154 £350 Bellhousing 31111-14110 £300 (based on buying new from Toyota with 15% discount) Driftmotion actually works out more expensive with the current exhange rate and shipping Light weight flywheel as I can’t find a stock one to buy £300 DW Clutch DW Spec 3 £400 Slave cylinder 31470-14050 61.09 (Again try finding a used one) Flywheel bolts 90910-02103 8 off £54.56 Clutch release bearing 90363-45012 or 31231-14040 £21.85 Sub Total £1487.50 Then to correct the shifter position Shifter Fork 31204-14031 51.86 Shifter housing 33521-24040 19.52 Control lever 33570-24010 76.14 Total = £1635 then you need a custom prop making which will be approx £150 + the R154 joint So its only worth doing if you can buy a used kit of bits which includes the main bits as you would still be missing the pedal and clutch master cylinder. It makes 2.5K for a 6 speed seem more reasonable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Mate, just go to Toyota, stock flywheel is 170 quid, and I can give you an ebay link for a non gen bellhousing, 211 quid with free postage from Malasia. Steve we need to discuss shifter extensions and filters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobD Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Could you fabricate the w58 shifter extension to work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Not sure tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobD Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Has the same sort of design as the R154 box shifter extension from a soarer so I reckon it's do-able! Me and my crazy technician had a look and wondered the other day and thought it could work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobD Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Has anyone fitted the R154 box to a mkiv in the uk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Reid Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Has anyone fitted the R154 box to a mkiv in the uk? SuprAsh has one fitted in his drift car, but I think he had to cut a gear lever hole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Reid Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Mate, just go to Toyota, stock flywheel is 170 quid, and I can give you an ebay link for a non gen bellhousing, 211 quid with free postage from Malasia. Steve we need to discuss shifter extensions and filters Still doesnt make it cheap, can you post the ebay link as I may do a 1JZ to JZ and would use R154 if I can get the bit cheap enough. I have all the toyota part number if your interested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 No its not cheap but its almost half the price of the Driftworks item and its OE quality Ive got the numbers for the Toyota bellhousing but cheers anyway. Heres the link for the cheapy cheapy :- http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1jz-gte-2jz-gte-toyota-Supra-Bellhousing-r154-FREE-SHIP-/280563830286?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4152e84e0e#ht_500wt_1182 Rob, the cradle looks similar but not sure about the gear selection rod into the gearbox. I recently sold a W58 and looked at that myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobD Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Might be worth a try, even if the gear selection rods different it still may end up cheaper Just getting that made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackso11 Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 just get a 6sp conversion, they come up for between 2k-2.5k everynow and again. They fit perfectly, no messing = less room for future problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 The 6 speed is a horrible box, and I refuse to pay that sort of cash for an unknown gearbox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baz018 Posted October 12, 2010 Author Share Posted October 12, 2010 If i put the 6 speed in will that make my car worth more than if i put the r154 in?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Depends on the car, it wont put 3 grand on the price if thats the answer youre after Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baz018 Posted October 12, 2010 Author Share Posted October 12, 2010 no i know it wont put 3 on but would a r154 make any differance at all? What im saying is a r154 will cost about 1500 to convert where as the 6 speed is about another grand but surely the car will be worth a grand more. I would sell my car for 5 grandish now so must be worth more with a getrag. Not that im ever planning on selling it as there is no other car i want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Yeah of course it would, theres not many 6 speeds about, and even less R154s. Most drivers prefer manual over auto boxes so it will be worth more than an auto to the right person As Ive said before Id urge any prospective 6 speed buyer to drive a car with the box in first. Oh and FWIW the parts for the conversion to 6 speed are 2.5km thats minus labour. My 5 speed swap will bearly break a grand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve spedd Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 We do mate. U about Friday night? Mate, just go to Toyota, stock flywheel is 170 quid, and I can give you an ebay link for a non gen bellhousing, 211 quid with free postage from Malasia. Steve we need to discuss shifter extensions and filters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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