paddy155 Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 When re-newing an oil filter after an oil change. Is hand tight enough or should a chain rachet be used ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraAyf Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 When re-newing an oil filter after an oil change. Is hand tight enough or should a chain rachet be used ? It's a hand job for me:innocent: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purity14 Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Ive always put it on by hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddy155 Posted September 21, 2010 Author Share Posted September 21, 2010 so hand tight is enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopgunTT Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 It's a hand job for me:innocent: So we hear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 erm yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraAyf Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 so hand tight is enough Yep, but make sure you lube the rubber contact surface with the oil you are using, plus; fill the filter with oil too;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelfill Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 defo hand tight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraAyf Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 So we hear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddy155 Posted September 21, 2010 Author Share Posted September 21, 2010 Ok,thanks. I lose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedrosixfour Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 When re-newing an oil filter after an oil change. Is hand tight enough or should a chain rachet be used ? It depends on whether you can get a good grip on it with your hands to tighten it properly. I personally don't believe in the 3/4 turn after gasket has made contact with the filter housing. I tighten it until it wont tighten any further by hand. If I can't get full purchase on it by hand I'll use a wide strap I made from a seatbelt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraDan24 Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Hand tight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty71 Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Two handed .... never fails Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robzki Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Two handed .... never fails Or if You're from Norfolk use all three for better grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 I tend to use gloves for that extra bit of grip personaly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Hopefully you were wrong before going anywhere near your car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 It depends on whether you can get a good grip on it with your hands to tighten it properly. I personally don't believe in the 3/4 turn after gasket has made contact with the filter housing. I tighten it until it wont tighten any further by hand. If I can't get full purchase on it by hand I'll use a wide strap I made from a seatbelt Any experience reason as to why? I've been doing basic services on my car since day one and I've never done anything more than 1 hand tight. Granted I don't do the 3/4 turn thing, I just go until it stops, but there is no reason to blitz the thing on there.... it's going nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraDan24 Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Or if You're from Norfolk use all three for better grip. Say's the guy from Devon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprab1 Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 It depends on whether you can get a good grip on it with your hands to tighten it properly. I personally don't believe in the 3/4 turn after gasket has made contact with the filter housing. I tighten it until it wont tighten any further by hand. If I can't get full purchase on it by hand I'll use a wide strap I made from a seatbelt I agree. We usally just give it a little nick with a filter cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soop Dogg Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Hopefully you were wrong before going anywhere near your car? Why? A pinch too tight is better than not tight enough. Not exactly going to result in a disaster. As long as you don't get it on so tight (using a filter wrench/strap) that you can't get the thing off again. I actually have had a filter blow off when it wasn't tight enough on a car that I couldn't get a good enough grip on the filter. I won't be letting that happen again. 'Engineers tight' is about right. Just nip it - I guess most of us know from experience when it's really tight enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPRALOOPY Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Hand tight and then just nip it up a bit more to be safe with some filter pliers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 Why? A pinch too tight is better than not tight enough. Not exactly going to result in a disaster. As long as you don't get it on so tight (using a filter wrench/strap) that you can't get the thing off again. I actually have had a filter blow off when it wasn't tight enough on a car that I couldn't get a good enough grip on the filter. I won't be letting that happen again. 'Engineers tight' is about right. Just nip it - I guess most of us know from experience when it's really tight enough. My first filter change on the supra was a nightmare due to overtightening. The filter looked like a corset by the time I was done getting it off. I also had to remove lots of bits out of the way and it was a real PITA. The previous owner alleged it had only been on a short amount of time too (I don't take chances and always service a new car), would hate to have seen it properly settled into place lol. I hold overtightening a filter in the same regard as using an impact gun to put wheels on. You're right though, if you have savvy you can feel what is right. I know there is no way in hell my filter will ever blow off. I always keep the filter as clean as possible and I have hands like shovels so a 1 handed tighten is plenty for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digsy Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 I always know when something is tight enough. Its exactly 1 second before I strip the thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedrosixfour Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 Any experience reason as to why? I've been doing basic services on my car since day one and I've never done anything more than 1 hand tight. Granted I don't do the 3/4 turn thing, I just go until it stops, but there is no reason to blitz the thing on there.... it's going nowhere. You should heed some of your own advice Scott and read a thread properly before posting. You are basing your answer simply on servicing a supra which, to be honest, is easier than most to work around. The OP never stated it was a Supra oil filter he was talking about, the thread is even in Off Topic. I believe said hand tight is fine. The only time I use a wide strap is when I can't get my hand firmly around the filter I'm trying to tighten. Which, I can assure you, being a mechanic by trade is a regular occurance. I hope that answers your question on experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 Considering I said my car, and not my supra, it would appear that it isn't me that needs to read more carefully. You even quoted me so I'm surprised where the confusion has came from. The worst one I have done was the MR2 IIRC. I needed 2 hands for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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