AndrewOW Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 Or a brain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 If you use a dog as a threat you will eventually have to use it as a weapon which will land you in a cell with a man called Butch and then you'll be the dog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 I had it in mind your dad had a garage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewOW Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 Jazz, have you tried Yoga or perhaps Tai Chi? Yes Jazz, these are seriously serious guard dog breeds. I'd look into them if I was you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 Am I being nasty to jazz??? http://www.metacafe.com/watch/983079/schutzhund_with_a_jack_russell/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 Am I being nasty to jazz??? http://www.metacafe.com/watch/983079/schutzhund_with_a_jack_russell/ Post of the week! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz1 Posted September 14, 2010 Author Share Posted September 14, 2010 I had it in mind your dad had a garage? There rented now got something new n less work more money:d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 Less work and more money? Been reading those traffic light flyers again, have you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_b Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 There rented now got something new n less work more money:d Does it involve standing on the toes of the local ne'er-do-wells? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie1985 Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Why have you even mentioned your dads business? To me this sounds like you feel intimidated by the local low-lives and believe that if you get a big scary dog they will give you a wide berth and make you feel safer. If this is the case then why does the dog have to be trained to kill somebody?? That's just crazy! I'd much sooner take a beating than go down for manslaughter! If you are so set on this then just get a German shepherd from a respected breeder and keep it as a pet. The dog will look intimidating to others and will protect you due to loyalty, not training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 By the way most Chav's carry knifes, not much a dog can do when it is up against that. My cat looks like a tiger from far away, I bet you that will scare them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_b Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Why have you even mentioned your dads business? To me this sounds like you feel intimidated by the local low-lives and believe that if you get a big scary dog they will give you a wide berth and make you feel safer. If this is the case then why does the dog have to be trained to kill somebody?? That's just crazy! I'd much sooner take a beating than go down for manslaughter! If you are so set on this then just get a German shepherd from a respected breeder and keep it as a pet. The dog will look intimidating to others and will protect you due to loyalty, not training. My thoughts exactly. Not having a go Jazz, just trying to figure out your motivation for getting one of these dogs and whether you've thought about the consequences. I've never owned a dog so you already know more than me, just sounds like you should really evaluate what you're trying to achieve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewOW Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 He wants to be arrested, and spend some time in a nice warm jail cell. Or maybe it's for another reason altogether. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz1 Posted September 15, 2010 Author Share Posted September 15, 2010 Personal protection and yes I will be taking him to my dads business reason being like stated I get lots of idiots some can get violent. My dads mate has two of these high trained German sheppards for 5 years he told me what I needed to know, this is coming from a guy who runs businesses and got fed up of idiots. Now he has had them dogs all his issues got solved and he has not once regret having them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Personal protection and yes I will be taking him to my dads business reason being like stated I get lots of idiots some can get violent. My dads mate has two of these high trained German sheppards for 5 years he told me what I needed to know, this is coming from a guy who runs businesses and got fed up of idiots. Now he has had them dogs all his issues got solved and he has not once regret having them! As I said before, if you use the dog as a threat sooner or later you'll have to use it as a weapon which will land you in a lot of trouble. Buy a baseball bat and go to the gym to make yourself look mean if there's a chance of trouble. Or if it's a legitimate business, call the police when they kick off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shima60 Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Decent airsoft gun gas powered. its enough to scare anyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz1 Posted September 15, 2010 Author Share Posted September 15, 2010 Decent airsoft gun gas powered. its enough to scare anyone Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewOW Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Were you Baldrick in a previous life, Jazz? I have a cunning plan... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_b Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Buy a baseball bat and go to the gym to make yourself look mean if there's a chance of trouble. Or if it's a legitimate business, call the police when they kick off. Not sure if your baseball bat comment was tongue-in-cheek, but what you said about being prepared to use a dog as a weapon also applies to the bat. Chavs will soon figure out if all you intend to do is wave the bat around and say "grrr" a lot. Reading Jazz's latest post I can understand why he would be disillusioned with the police approach, although I would always advocate doing things by the legal (police) route. I don't have the skills/temperament to confront someone and "take care of them", so I tend to sympathise with people who feel similarly. The wheels of justice seem to move at a glacial pace. Even if the police have the manpower available to respond to a scuffle, unless actual injuries or damage have been inflicted they probably won't be able to do much. Even if the police can do something, prosecution can be a worrying and long drawn-out process. It can leave you open to further attacks depending on how well-connected the scumbags are, when you just want the whole thing to go away and to get on with your life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz1 Posted September 15, 2010 Author Share Posted September 15, 2010 That's the thing Steve I'm buying this as a personal protection does not mean I will be using it to attack someone for no apparant reason. For example if these scums did attack or use violence an I personally do not have the manpower to tackle someone. I'd rather have something to protect me then to be attacked and some situations it can be life threatening. Sometimes calling the police in the type of violent situtaion can be impossible leaving you in a life threatening position. It does not mean I'd be provocking such an attack, but if things could get nasty at least il have some protection from any violent attack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 What sort of lives do some people lead? OK, there's been the odd skirmish at the pub, or a bit of an argument over some rent or something, but to feel the need to have a protection dog with you all day.... Hell, save the money and put it towrds moving somewhere nicer, or re assess what business your father has brought you into Out of our eleven dogs one is trained to protect on command, but we live in the back of beyond on 17 acres and if I am away it gives `er indoors peace of mind that should someone come around at night she has the confidence to go and see what's happening. I also, as one might suspect with eleven dogs, love them, and am interested in training them and animal psychology. I would hate to think my daily life would revolve around needing a dog or minder to allow me peace of mind, but I guess I may be lucky, back before we moved I was aware that roaming gangs of drunken youths could become a PITA, but fortunately it was rare to have a face off. Maybe London is even worse than I recall from when I last had to walk its streets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz1 Posted September 15, 2010 Author Share Posted September 15, 2010 Yes Chris alot of chavs around here, but then again it can also be like any other violent dog. People around here still have violent pit bulls, which are illegal. I didn't know until the other day my dads mate has two German sheppards highly trained. He told me to stay clear of the roty and recommended me the same place he got his. He has them as pets and as guards and didn't complain about owning them. The type business he runs it has solved all his issues as well as protecting his child and family. Oh and yea it's not safe walking streets around you have those idiot chavs with knives robbing innocent people. I remember walking my big dog once, passing a group of hody chavs. All made clear way when they saw my dog and got scared, they looked like the robbing type waiting to start trouble or rob someone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lbm Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Newsflash: "Jazz eaten by his own Alsatian..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermonkey Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Newsflash: "Jazz eaten by Alsatian..." don't all dogs do that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_p Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Newsflash: "Jazz eaten by his own Alsatian..." Are you trying to say that Jazz puts peanut butter on his genitals? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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