caseys Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Does anyone practice or believe in homeopathy here? Fancy £68k a year for diluting garlic to 1:1,000,000 http://www.zenosblog.com/2010/08/nhs-tayside-want-to-employ-a-new-doctor/ Staggering :-( I am amazed that with the budget cuts such hmm...'alternative medicine is offered on the nhs. Then again a couple of friends swear by acupuncture (not sure if this is really alternative though), but just surprised medicinal practices are on the nhs which under clinical trials have zero basis above a placebo effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a98pmalcolm Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 We have tryed everything for my condition one being homeopathy. And it was a load of codswholop! I just didnt bother going back after a few sessions. Each to there own, homeopathy works if u believe it does... coz there stuff they give it so mineute it wouldnt effect a mouse! So you telling your self its helping... kinda like if you take a head ach pill u feel better pretty quick coz you know its goin to help but no way the pill will head ach pill will get into your system that quick... Sadly my condition is so phsical that wont work.... Try it if u like mate, but the homeopathy people seem a lil crazy to me and 99% of doctors dont beleive in it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 The pharmacists at work are constantly researching weird and wonderful tablets that in-patients bring with them as part of their routine. Someone today was taking tablets with blue-green algae in. The stuff that postponed a recent outdoor swimming event in the lake district because of health risks. People are crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 What did folk use before "modern medicine"? Just because it isn't mainstream doesnt make it bad! Just need to separate the good from the bad. Its not alternative medicine, its complimentry medicine, the clue is in the title, its supposed to work with mainstream medicines not as an alternative to!! Sitting under a pyramid isn't going to cure cancer for example, but working with mainstream medicine can help bring a state of relaxation which would enable the "patient" to feel less stressed and more focussed on trying to combat the malady. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 If you believe in Homeopathy and the Daily Mail then read Ben Goldacres Bad Science. It's a real eye opener and will make you rethink a few things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdistc Posted September 11, 2010 Share Posted September 11, 2010 Also, I think it's pertinent to point out that a) the applicant must be fully-qualified GP b) the salary is a RANGE from £37-68k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted September 11, 2010 Share Posted September 11, 2010 If "alternative medicine" actually worked... it would just be called "medicine". Load of rubbish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseys Posted September 11, 2010 Author Share Posted September 11, 2010 Also, I think it's pertinent to point out that a) the applicant must be fully-qualified GP b) the salary is a RANGE from £37-68k I would wonder why any GP who's probably undergone 10+ years of medical training/education (something you need to be motivated/enthusiastic to do) would then switch to alternative medicine. If "alternative medicine" actually worked... it would just be called "medicine". Agreed, actually a very succinct way of stating it sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdistc Posted September 11, 2010 Share Posted September 11, 2010 I would wonder why any GP who's probably undergone 10+ years of medical training/education (something you need to be motivated/enthusiastic to do) would then switch to alternative medicine. Maybe because they've gotten tired of the Western medical approach of "manufactured medication solves everything"? I believe we are close to a watershed moment in medicine to move away from such a dependence on pharmaceuticals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseys Posted September 11, 2010 Author Share Posted September 11, 2010 Maybe because they've gotten tired of the Western medical approach of "manufactured medication solves everything"? I believe we are close to a watershed moment in medicine to move away from such a dependence on pharmaceuticals. I wouldn't even say it's a western world thing. I'm happy to accept anything if there can be a clinical trial where tests can be done stringently, be it "manufactured" or "non-manufactured" medicine. Just look at the benefits of some chinese medicine which is centuries old, I wouldn't say that was manufactured but some herbs/medicinal remedies have been proved clinically to be beneficial, others not (ear candles, some herbal medicine etc). And yes I'd even agree things like the placebo effect or curing psychosomatic illness. Are we? Can you give me anything I can look at about it? Not a jibe there, but if you truly believe we are on the cusp of something I'd like to read up about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdistc Posted September 11, 2010 Share Posted September 11, 2010 I wouldn't even say it's a western world thing. I'm happy to accept anything if there can be a clinical trial where tests can be done stringently, be it "manufactured" or "non-manufactured" medicine. Just look at the benefits of some chinese medicine which is centuries old, I wouldn't say that was manufactured but some herbs/medicinal remedies have been proved clinically to be beneficial, others not (ear candles, some herbal medicine etc). And yes I'd even agree things like the placebo effect or curing psychosomatic illness. Are we? Can you give me anything I can look at about it? Not a jibe there, but if you truly believe we are on the cusp of something I'd like to read up about it. I would agree, to some extent, that I would prefer that products have a strongly evidence based reason for their use. However, Arthur Clarke's 3rd law (Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic) is relevant here - how can we perform double blind, placebo controlled trials if we haven't gotten the sufficient technology to be able to examine the subject? For example, we know that logically because the human body produces electrical current, it should also produce a magnetic field, but we do not have sensitive enough equipment yet to examine this in detail. As to any information, there aren't many articles that directly address this - it's my feeling based on the direction of research. Vague, I know. I'll have a look around and post something relevant if I can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted September 11, 2010 Share Posted September 11, 2010 Maybe because they've gotten tired of the Western medical approach of "manufactured medication solves everything"? I believe we are close to a watershed moment in medicine to move away from such a dependence on pharmaceuticals. You mean the NHS has totally run out of money then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted September 11, 2010 Share Posted September 11, 2010 I tried complimentary medicine once. The doc said I had nice hair and great dress sense. I felt much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purity14 Posted September 11, 2010 Share Posted September 11, 2010 I tried complimentary medicine once. The doc said I had nice hair and great dress sense. I felt much better. Very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted September 11, 2010 Share Posted September 11, 2010 Very good. Don't encourage him..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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