nasoup Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 At least there'll be something factual to watch on the news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 I know someone who is in the post mortems of the 2 guys today, it was an horrific accident and the whole carriageway had to be closed to collect forensic evidence. I know if they were my loved ones I would want to know what happened and the delay to the traffic would be inconsequential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tannhauser Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 It didn't affect me at all, but I was amazed just how many people in a small country pub had tales last night of lost business, disrupted schedules and direct and indirect upheaval as a result. http://www.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk/news/CHAOS-LORRY-HITS-MEN-M6/article-2628955-detail/article.html I agree that it's a dreadful pity all those people were inconvenienced so severely as a result of a fatal accident and the subsequent investigation. I think the 'age' divide is a red herring. There aren't that many years between the two of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted September 10, 2010 Author Share Posted September 10, 2010 Not so much the inconvenience, but the cost to an already crippled economy. You just can't go closing a major motorway for 11 hours every time there's a fatality. I would hazard a guess the compensation culture has a lot to do with how such things are handled these days. But I am a cynical and soulless old *ast*rd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 But I am a cynical and soulless old *ast*rd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Ian Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Im with you Chris, in that why did have to take 11 hours for the "gathering of information " ok yes close the motorway for a while to get said info but 11 hours it caused me no end of problems ( logisics planner )....... having said that condolenses to the two guys who died. the lorry driver ( 60yrs old from selby ) has been arrested for dangerous driving according to the news Cheers -Ian- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul mac Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 definately with you on this Chris and i have a solution................. move to Germany when i was working there some years back there was a bad pile up near Duesseldorf involving fatalities, the German emergency services had the autobahn open within an hour, once they had soughted the scene they seemed to take pride in not messing people about and getting the traffic moving, i liked Germany alot, i liked the efficiency, am i normal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 definately with you on this Chris and i have a solution................. move to Germany when i was working there some years back there was a bad pile up near Duesseldorf involving fatalities, the German emergency services had the autobahn open within an hour, once they had soughted the scene they seemed to take pride in not messing people about and getting the traffic moving, i liked Germany alot, i liked the efficiency, am i normal True. They dealt with the jews pretty quickly..!! *Pours petrol on potentially insensitive thread and f*cks off* H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 What a horrible thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purity14 Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Decided to leave it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted September 10, 2010 Author Share Posted September 10, 2010 Actually, it has come to pass that some of the post holocaust activities of the late and infamous Simon "Nazi Hunter" Wiesenthal were all lies and publicity seeking. It's something my friends know has long been a minor crusade of mine, and was generally met by disbelief and claims of Germanic leanings. Maybe I should go back to the Fatherland, err, I mean Germany. (Beats arm downwards a la Dr.Strangelove) http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/books/book_extracts/article6718913.ece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 You should try driving in Asian Chris, where in HK you can spend 4hrs stationary because some bamboo scaffolding has fallen off a building (that took a few beers to recover from!) or be delayed 5 minutes in China whilst traffic negotiates it's way around a biker whose had a fatal argument with a lorry (that took a lot more beers!) Perhaps the emergency services just did it for a laugh to give us Brits something to moan about on the internets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul mac Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 6 million Jews died between 1945 1946. 6 Camps Auschwitz-Birkenau, Belzec, Chelmno, Majdanek, Sobibor, Treblinka. 1 Million Jews per camp for that year. 1,000,000 Divided by 365 days = 2739 jews per day 2739 Jews divided by 24 hours = 114 jews per hour 1.9 jews a minute. They could have off'ed 1254 Jews in the time it took to open the m6. Sorry Havard, ive taken it to another level of insensitivity. yes yes your right lets make fun of some very young and very scared children who took half an hour to die in a gas chamber, your from Merseyside i see, would you find it offensive if i trivialising young kids "off'ed" at Hillsborough, i would suggest this thread has run its course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purity14 Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Actually, it has come to pass that some of the post holocaust activities of the late and infamous Simon "Nazi Hunter" Wiesenthal were all lies and publicity seeking. It's something my friends know has long been a minor crusade of mine, and was generally met by disbelief and claims of Germanic leanings. Maybe I should go back to the Fatherland, err, I mean Germany. (Beats arm downwards a la Dr.Strangelove) http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/books/book_extracts/article6718913.ece I have some good videos on that about pit sizes and based on measurement how deep the must have really had to be!! Lots of sides wanted to create this into their own monster. The Nazis lied, the Soviets lied and the Jews lied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purity14 Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 yes yes your right lets make fun of some very young and very scared children who took half an hour to die in a gas chamber, your from Merseyside i see, would you find it offensive if i trivialising young kids "off'ed" at Hillsborough, i would suggest this thread has run its course I revised that about 10 times because i wasnt using my calculator and brain at the time, I needed to space it over 4 years instead of one. You are welcome to delete it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted September 10, 2010 Author Share Posted September 10, 2010 Continuing to comfortably wear my cynical hat I get the impression a lot of the emergency services these days just like dressing up and hoping for TV coverage We have the Greater Manchester Police traffic officers vying for air time and levels of vehicular abuse on Police, Camera, Action with their somewhat smarter looking Midland's compatriots. Then we have the Air Ambulance boys with their very well "tooled" cohorts about to oust out Homes under the Hammer for breakfast TV viewing. The television would have us believe all firemen wear full fire fighting and breathing apparatus 24 hours a day, and add assorted "stuff" to their belts at the first sign of a camera. The ambulance crews seem to don shades and drive like mad men as soon as the media gets recording gear in their vehicles, yet conveniently pass over that someone died the previous day because their sat-nav took them to the wrong town without them noticing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 I don't know Next you'll be telling me that Mandela was a terrorist All this leftie crap the kids were taught at school was wrong then? Bless 'em Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Look on the bright side...They'll probably have to do these things faster when there's less emergency personnel available following the 'cut backs'. It's certainly a lesson on why you should sit on the grass verge on the hard shoulder. I find the public themselves don't do any favours slowing down to rubber neck, road closure or not. These things tend to have tremendous tail backs purely down to natural human inquisitiveness. Most RTAs do seem to be dealt with pretty swiftly by scraping up what's left and hauling the wreckage to one side with a fair sense of urgency. Playing devils advocate, I guess if the officers on the scene thought this lorry driver was at fault and needed to be punished then they had to make sure they had every scrap of evidence to make sure he gets a long sentence. That would make the lawyers that work so hard to get criminals to walk free to blame in my book. More police time, more evidence, more technicalities, more paperwork, etc.. They also closed the M6 a couple of weeks back for some fella that wanted to jump off a bridge. Selfish b*stard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 How long does it take to get a statement, measure the skid marks, take a few pictures then mop up and tidy up? Couple of hours at most? They also closed the M6 a couple of weeks back for some fella that wanted to jump off a bridge. Selfish b*stard. Was that the guy that jumped when everyone started shouting "jump you ba*tard!"? I have to admit I laughed at that, but then I've also been called an insensitive b*stard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Was that the guy that jumped when everyone started shouting "jump you ba*tard!"? Apparently not. I guess his heart just wasn't in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 How did this turn to genocide? Ibtl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted September 11, 2010 Share Posted September 11, 2010 Apparently not. I guess his heart just wasn't in it. He should take a look at how the Japanese do it. They don't hang around seeking attention, they just leap in front of a train and get it done with. Doesn't usually take more than an hour to ID them, clean up the mess and send their family a bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tannhauser Posted September 11, 2010 Share Posted September 11, 2010 Continuing to comfortably wear my cynical hat I get the impression a lot of the emergency services these days just like dressing up and hoping for TV coverage So now the emergency services are posers. FFS, I'm out of this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted September 11, 2010 Share Posted September 11, 2010 So now the emergency services are posers. FFS, I'm out of this one. I have come back for a morbid look at insensitivity corner..... H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted September 11, 2010 Author Share Posted September 11, 2010 Quiet here at the moment, will try to think of something contentious for later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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