Thomas_germany Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 I was out driving three days ago and when I came home the supra was fine. Yesterday I wanted to drive but it won't start. It turns fine but won't fire up. Battery is ok. Tomorrow I'll check all fuses. I can smell fuel, when it turns, so I guess it's not the fuelpump. I think, I already got wet sparkplugs - but I'll check that on Saturday. Can I take out a sparkplug and try starting the car to see if I got a spark? Any idea what could cause the problem or what steps I'll have to go through? Thomas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 The engine may have just flooded, leave it for a while and try again, if it still doesn't start hold the accelerator pedal down to the floor (don't pump the pedal) and try turning the engine over again. If it still doesn't start then time to check the plugs for a spark. Another thought, is there anyway water could have got into the engine bay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas_germany Posted September 10, 2010 Author Share Posted September 10, 2010 I was cleaning the enginebay last weekend but I was driving after that. And I only used a spounge with hardly water on it. Everything was ok. So "no" to water. Can I take out a sparkplug and try starting the car to see if I got a spark? Ot how else can I check for spark? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Just put a spark plug in one of your ht leads and crank it over with the plug earthed on the engine, no need to take a plug out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 (edited) no idea why that double posted ? Edited September 10, 2010 by Dnk posted twice lol (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_k Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Is this an excuse to get a TT engine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwayne Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 did you loosen any of the electrical boxes to clean under them? i did that on an n/a once and it turns out that the box on the right as you're looking into the engine bay is earthed by the bolts that hold it in place and i forgot to tighten them properly. it started initially and then stopped further down the road and wouldnt fire up till i tightened the bolts properly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 If it's wet the plugs you sometimes find the only way an engine will fire up afterwards is to sandblast or renew them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 If it's wet the plugs you sometimes find the only way an engine will fire up afterwards is to sandblast or renew them. Bit drastic Chris, sandblasting an engine to get it started? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas_germany Posted September 10, 2010 Author Share Posted September 10, 2010 Just put a spark plug in one of your ht leads and crank it over with the plug earthed on the engine, no need to take a plug out. Ok I'll try that after I checked all fuses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronttuk Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 I had a celica that wouldnt start,for some reason it dumped all the petrol in the cylinders at once, i put about 5ml of oil in each cylinder turned it over by hand a cpl of times the tried to start it it fired up with a bit of smoke obviously at first then was fine after that, it seems the petrol washed the oil away from the compression rings so it was low on compression then the oil i put in each cyclinder created a seal to give me compression again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas_germany Posted September 10, 2010 Author Share Posted September 10, 2010 (edited) Ok folks, I tried a couple of thing: 1. Checked all fuses in the enginebay (optical) - ok 2. Checked Starter-Relais - ok I switched it around with the Fog-Light-Relais, which is the same circuit. Fog-Lights worked with the startert-Relais, but car still wouldn't start on the Fog-Light-Relais. 3. Took a sparkplug out and grounded it to the battery - no spark. When I tried to start, I had the battery connected to my other car, which was running. The Supra's battery was a little low. I smelled the fuel in the engine, so I guess the fuelpump works. I can hear it running also. 4. Checked all fuses it the car next to the gaspedal - ok Tried to start again - now eithout my other car connected to the battery. The result is strange. The car wouldn't even turn. Not even a ticking noise. Even the clock and all dashlights are going out. Could my battery be dead? What steps should I do next? Edited September 10, 2010 by Thomas_germany (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Reid Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 If you have connected another car to increase cranking speed and its slowed down or now not cranking you have done something wrong. I would suggest you may have connected the jump leads the wrong way arround Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 (edited) Check out the ignition section WSM for 2JZ-GE & 2JZ-GTE http://www.turbosupras.com/pages/en/pages/technical/a80tsrm.htm Edited September 10, 2010 by Dnk (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 If you have connected another car to increase cranking speed and its slowed down or now not cranking you have done something wrong. I would suggest you may have connected the jump leads the wrong way arround If you have done that you could have blown the main fuse, not sure if its 120 amp same as the TT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas_germany Posted September 10, 2010 Author Share Posted September 10, 2010 If you have connected another car to increase cranking speed and its slowed down or now not cranking you have done something wrong. I would suggest you may have connected the jump leads the wrong way arround I think you got me wrong. At the first try, I had my other car connected. I even did that yesterday. I defo didn't do it wrong. But I'll check the 120A fuse tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nasoup Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 I'm sure if you have blown the main fuse then you would have absolutely no power to the car. You say the lights are ''dimming'' so I think your fuse is fine. If you put the jump leads the wrong way round then you'd know about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas_germany Posted September 10, 2010 Author Share Posted September 10, 2010 That's what I think, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nasoup Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Are you able to remove the spark plugs and suck the fuel out of the cylinders? This could save alot of time. If you want to get power back into the supra battery then hook your second car up to it and run the engine for ten minutes then unhook the leads and try starting the supe. I can be quite patronizing sometimes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas_germany Posted September 10, 2010 Author Share Posted September 10, 2010 No, I don't have anything to suck the fuel out. I'll hook my other car up tomorrow. The steps for tomorrow are, going from the sparkplug backards. First I'll check the igniter coil. The I'll trace the cables to the last point, I got power. Hopefully I'll find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nasoup Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 GL! Let us know how you get on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas_germany Posted September 12, 2010 Author Share Posted September 12, 2010 (edited) Seems to be the Ignition Coil or the Dissy. I'll try another Ignition Coil first - should be cheaper and less work then the dissy. I'll try to find somebody in Germany, who let me try his igntion coil. If I can't find somenody - see here: http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?p=2886083#post2886083 Edited September 12, 2010 by Thomas_germany (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronttuk Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 n/a dont have coil packs theve got a distributer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trev the rev Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 n/a dont have coil packs theve got a distributer my father said it was my coil packs!! hes a bus mechanic of 30 years, i think he knows his stuff:smartass: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackin_n_bashin Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 maybe try turning the key lol lol! have you checked the coilpacks mate? one time i was driving doin about a ton down my estate(they dont call me ten second trev for nothin bruvva!) and my car started making a splyutty sound, so iz got out and checked me coil packs! they wuz wet so i got me birds nickers and dried em off! worked a charm ! w t f Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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