dude Posted September 9, 2010 Author Share Posted September 9, 2010 Just been reading up on this, interesting. http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1650384 No thats completly different, never needed anti lag per say so not really interested in that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 (edited) Lag is only a problem when you select the wrong gear:p Very interested, cant wait for the reveal. (BTW I am good at mechanical sympathy) Edited September 9, 2010 by Terminator (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagman Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 Not that I disbelieve any of whats been stated, but I'm struggling to get my head around how one person can work out what is clearly being suggested as a more efficient all round method of turbo charging. Yet millions of dollars and years of R&D by huge companies has missed it. You could also say that of Dyson!! How come Hoover et al didn't develop things? There are many papers and science that never gets used , mainly due the very , very, smart originators never see applications - put 2 smart fluid dynamicists together and they end up debating mathmatics at a high level - now ask them to fix the toilet that don't flush........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobD Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 It won't be too long till we have the system up and running, it is the testing that will take the time, there are loads of different things we are going to try. Any idea on the price roughly? Would you have to run aftermarket management with the mod? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Raven Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 There is only one way to make sure this works. AFR buy and fit a TT lump in my N/A.....Best put a 6 speed in while you are there. Then make the thing hit 600bhp on stock tubbys. What ya say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobD Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 Also Dude, do you think 500bhp on stock turbo's if feasible with this mod if say my car was fully bpu'd? Or will we just have to wait and find out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan.G Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 Popped down to AFR earlier as was seriously interested in this and managed to get a secret video of some testing... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_qOn-u8OYM&feature=related Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted September 9, 2010 Author Share Posted September 9, 2010 Any idea on the price roughly? Would you have to run aftermarket management with the mod? Until we know what we need etc and fabrication times no idea whatsoever, the better the management the easier we can control the mods without you needing to constantly moniter everything but we can prob get round no aftermarket management by using various window switches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT Paul Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 Popped down to AFR earlier as was seriously interested in this and managed to get a secret video of some testing... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_qOn-u8OYM&feature=related dude stop testing ryans car;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted September 9, 2010 Author Share Posted September 9, 2010 Also Dude, do you think 500bhp on stock turbo's if feasible with this mod if say my car was fully bpu'd? Or will we just have to wait and find out? In theory yes, I really dont know the result on the turbines though, which is why I would say that on the stock based metal wheeled tubbies we have done at CR then yes that's feasible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 Also Dude, do you think 500bhp on stock turbo's if feasible with this mod if say my car was fully bpu'd? Or will we just have to wait and find out? Dream on! Popped down to AFR earlier as was seriously interested in this and managed to get a secret video of some testing... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_qOn-u8OYM&feature=related No expense spared then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted September 9, 2010 Author Share Posted September 9, 2010 Popped down to AFR earlier as was seriously interested in this and managed to get a secret video of some testing... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_qOn-u8OYM&feature=related IF they had used a diff fan, ie one designed to build pressure and not just move air, then to certain extent that would actually work:blink: Anyway I thought we agreed not to say anything:search: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobD Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 I'm having steel turbines put into my turbo's I've got going on my new engine ATM, really interested in this, I was planning on going TTC with a piggy back ecu. If I can get close to 500 bhp then I'm definitely interested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted September 9, 2010 Author Share Posted September 9, 2010 I'm having steel turbines put into my turbo's I've got going on my new engine ATM, really interested in this, I was planning on going TTC with a piggy back ecu. If I can get close to 500 bhp then I'm definitely interested i have just fitted a set of our steel turbine turbos to a new engine we built with forged pistons etc, the car made 421 at 1 bar on the old dyno, will be interesting to see how high it goes when loosened up and more miles are on it so we can turn up the boost, maybe we can try TTC with the quicker spool etc it should feel like a single. heres the thesis on the quicker spool that is already developed and proven, we aim to move this on further. http://sti.cnam.fr/turbomachines-moteurs/pdf/EUROT5.PDF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwilkinson Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 Wow, this is exciting stuff. Looking forward to the actual trials. I only saw this post 10 mins ago and the wait is killing me already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted September 9, 2010 Author Share Posted September 9, 2010 Wow, this is exciting stuff. Looking forward to the actual trials. I only saw this post 10 mins ago and the wait is killing me already. I have already sorted the parts for mine , spent an hour on the phone to the 'brains' behind it all tonight. we have sorted one part we need and im expectinfg a delivery tommorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 Interesting, so it's based on pre-turbo variable vane technology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porky1978 Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Of course it is. What else lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagman Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Interesting, so it's based on pre-turbo variable vane technology. Sort of , but variable IGVs require complex compressor matching Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swandip Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 i have just fitted a set of our steel turbine turbos to a new engine we built with forged pistons etc, the car made 421 at 1 bar on the old dyno, will be interesting to see how high it goes when loosened up and more miles are on it so we can turn up the boost, maybe we can try TTC with the quicker spool etc it should feel like a single. heres the thesis on the quicker spool that is already developed and proven, we aim to move this on further. http://sti.cnam.fr/turbomachines-moteurs/pdf/EUROT5.PDF Following this with great interest looking forward to the results, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraDan24 Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 I wish i would have found this thread in 6 weeks so i wouldnt have to suffer all the waiting Subscribed and following with interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodalmighty Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 From the sounds of it, this sort of thing could revolutionise the turbo industry. Why is this 'Mad Scientist' not working with the likes of Garret or even a large performance car manufacturer like Porsche say? They've come some way with their VV technology. Maybe the Mad Scientist needs to find someone willing to spend their time and money developing his idea to the point of a working prototype so he can THEN sell it to Garrett and the like with data to back up his claims (But then I am Sceptical Cat ). If the Mad Scientist if paying for your time then it sounds like your going to have a fun time watching something really special develop. If not, get an iron clad contract that stops them excluding you from any potential revenue streams the final product will generate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Nic Mann's "Mannic" hillclimb car uses some interesting technology that *IS* proven to give totally lag free turbo boost. Google Nic Mann and Mannic to find plenty of info. Here's a clip of it in action. I have seen it run a few times and its acceleration is brutal. http://wn.com/Nick_Mann%27s_Mannic_Beattie_hillclimb_car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porky1978 Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Helicopter gas turbines FTMFW!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodalmighty Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Bit like my idea to run the Turbo using LPG. ProDrive used to use propane when testing turbo's in the test rig. 2bar at idle sir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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