edinlexusV8 Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 (edited) I now have an automatic gearbox. I got used to left foot braking and I thoroughly enjoy it. Now I am in the process of going down the Forced Induction route and am replacing the automatic gearbox to an R154 5 Speed tranny. The problem is I still would like to use my left foot for braking rather than for operating the clutch to change gears I am wondering is there any way I can use a paddle shift unit with this R154 gearbox? Has anybody ever done this? Let me know what you guys think would be a possible solution and are there any other option/gearboxes that are best suitable for use as paddle shift? Edited September 14, 2010 by edinlexusV8 (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobD Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 Tiptronic box out of a facelift supra is probably your best option tbh! How are you finding sourcing the bits needed to convert your car to a r154? I'm about to go this route to but the shifter extension is a stumbling block! There's places where you can buy the extension needed but it is costly but some are using different Toyota parts to build a shift extension it seems! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 Afaik almost all flappy paddle boxes are autos with manual control apart from the Ferrari boxes. If it was sequential it would be fairly easy but with an H pattern it would be near impossible, never mind the clutch operation. In summary, no lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinlexusV8 Posted September 7, 2010 Author Share Posted September 7, 2010 I am planning to replace my automatic with a soarer R154 manual 5 speed tranny. It already comes with a remote shifter and fits perfectly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 Providing you have the later model soarer box, the early ones didnt have remote shift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 Where did you find that box?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinlexusV8 Posted September 7, 2010 Author Share Posted September 7, 2010 Yeah I managed to find a soarer R154 tranny. But would like to know how I can operate clutch with out using my left leg There are 4-5 going on Jap auctions but the one I am getting is from AUS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobD Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 Swap you for a mk3 supra r154 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 There are 4-5 going on Jap auctions but the one I am getting is from AUS. Then you must have payed out some big money then! There never cheap from down under and cost of freight, hell they steal them all from the jap auctions site and they usualy go for around 1-1.5k easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 But would like to know how I can operate clutch with out using my left leg Air shifter and a button on the wheel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 Providing you have the later model soarer box, the early ones didnt have remote shift. What did early ones have then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 Air shifter and a button on the wheel? Keerching And yup that was the option I was going to suggest as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinlexusV8 Posted September 7, 2010 Author Share Posted September 7, 2010 Irrespective of an R154 gearbox, I am interested to know how I can operate clutch with out using my left leg May be some paddle under the steering wheel for the clutch? Any other gearbox options? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 What did early ones have then? Swan neck shifter. http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/3370/p4180115ap1.jpg Sorry back on topic I highly doubt you can do what you want to do so you will have to re educate your left foot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 Irrespective of an R154 gearbox, I am interested to know how I can operate clutch with out using my left leg May be some paddle under the steering wheel for the clutch? Any other gearbox options? Read up mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 Swan neck shifter. Thats awesome, will have to look into that when I do my conversion. Theres a home made extension on the Aristo forum but you need to be handy with the welder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinlexusV8 Posted September 7, 2010 Author Share Posted September 7, 2010 Air shifter and a button on the wheel? Air Shifters sounds interesting. Has anybody here done it before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 Guido Simplex automated clutch would free up your foot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David P Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 (edited) You can use a Suprastick to manualise (Flappy Paddle) an A340E auto box, but not the A343E. Info in my garage link below. What engine are you running? If you have more power than an A340E N/A box can handle, you can upgrade it by increasing the oil pressure and/or hybridise with A343E T.T. box components. Edited September 7, 2010 by David P (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinlexusV8 Posted September 7, 2010 Author Share Posted September 7, 2010 You can use a Suprastick to manualise (Flappy Paddle) a 340E auto box, but not the 343E. Info in my garage link below. What engine are you running? If you have more power than the N/A box can handle, you can upgrade it by increasing the oil pressure and/or with 343 box components. Wow! Your garage is amazing mate! Great job! Would be nice to see some of your performance figures. No idea what you meant when you say "Manualised A340E 4 speed automatic transmission" How much torque does the uprated internals of this gearbox handle? Your build is very interesting. Looks like you put in quite a lot of work and hours in doing those mods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David P Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 (edited) Thank's for the compliments. At this time the transmission internals are standard, they should stand up to the engine's power, but just in case there is more than I bargained for, I have a set of oil pressure upgrade sleeves, and/or I could use T.T. A343E components to upgrade the A340E to T.T. + torque capabillity. I need to keep the A340E box to run the SSV4.6 (Manualiser/Flappy Paddle) and use the splined Driftmotion one piece alloy prop. Info on box hybridisation in link below. http://www.supras.nl/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=35&Itemid=52 For installation info re. the Suprastick, click on the thumbnail in my garage for a full size pic with info below it, and also, the active SSV4 link will take you to the Latent Solutions site. Take a browse around, there's loads of info in there. Just a few odds and sods left to do to the engine, water/meth injection and HHO generator. (all details in garage) It will then go on the rollers and we shall know. Edited September 7, 2010 by David P (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Banners Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 Speak to Andy no-knees on the Soarer world website. He might be able to help you. Banners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 Mr Edin wants to paddle shift a manual box... Never tried the air shifter mate but wouldnt be too hard to do. Personally Id just switch to right foot braking and use the box in the normal way but hey, thats just me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodalmighty Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 Basically you need the bits from a Toyota MRS StepTronic. That is a manual box shifted with hydraulics and cables. The ECU is a stand alone unit too, but best of luck fining a pin out for it. On a side note, it feels fuck1ng awful to drive. Stick with an uprated V8 Soarer autobox and paddle shift that as it's much easy to do. Shim the shift actuators and replace the clutch packs with a Raybestos blue kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David P Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 (edited) How many shift solenoids are there in a Soarer V8 auto box? The Suprastick can control 2 shift and 1 lock up solenoid. Edited September 8, 2010 by David P (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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