Hawkings Theory

[Attero]

I know there have been a few threads on this in the past, but it's come apparent in recent news that Stephen Hawking believes that everything could have been created from nothing.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11172158

 

If this was the case, would it not be possible to generate resources and other things from nothing if we found out the process that took place when the universe was created from nothing?

 

I'm wandering how this would pan out for future reference when science takes further grip. I'm really interested in how the universe was created and why there was a force/energy in the first place for something to make things happen.

 

You have to remember, if the universe magically decided to create itself from energy - where was there energy from? Nothing? There must have been something in the first place for energy to take place. And then there must have been something before that, and so on.

[Thorin]

God did it, obviously.

[ozz]

I have no idea on this but its fascinating that as our understanding and knowledge grows guesses that we rely on as fact become farcical with hindsight (like believing the world was flat).

 

Perhaps one day people will look back and say, remember before the age of technology when people believed in a devine being that they would prey to and celebrate?

 

Just my monday morning musings. Back on topic, I really can't grasp a notion that you can create something from nothing, it seems more mystical than scientific but hey I don't have Hawkin's intelligence, at least I can run tho. (bad taste).

[SimonG]

I take the theory that the universe simple is and has always been.That the start of the universe is the big bang from when all the matter in the universe implodes ,when the expansion has stopped and the universe simple keeps on doing this .There is no God ,God is the invention of man first to explain things he did not understand and later as now a form of population control.Just my input to the discussion.

[Matt H]

I know there have been a few threads on this in the past, but it's come apparent in recent news that Stephen Hawking believes that everything could have been created from nothing.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11172158

 

If this was the case, would it not be possible to generate resources and other things from nothing if we found out the process that took place when the universe was created from nothing?

 

I'm wandering how this would pan out for future reference when science takes further grip. I'm really interested in how the universe was created and why there was a force/energy in the first place for something to make things happen.

 

You have to remember, if the universe magically decided to create itself from energy - where was there energy from? Nothing? There must have been something in the first place for energy to take place. And then there must have been something before that, and so on.

 

Why does there have to be something before something else? We're just not intelligent enough to comprehend every mystery of the universe yet (maybe never). Because everything in our life is finite, I don't understand why we have to attribute a finite understanding to everything else.

[BazzaAlpine]

If this means we are a step closer to Star Trek replicator style equipment then all I can say is bring it on

God/Religion is the biggest cause of grief on the planet and does not deserve my respect, followed closely by the weather.

[tbourner]

We've already had the religion vs science debate, it's still ongoing in fact.

 

As for Hawking, isn't he just saying there was only energy before the big bang and no matter, and the matter was created from energy? He's not saying there was literally nothing and it appeared from nowhere.

[Scott]

Did someone not have a theory that the universe was reciprocal(sp?). It would impode into itself creating a massive charge of energy and then explode, big bang, into the universe as we know it?

 

I've killed too many braincells, can't remember much of anything these days but I was really into this sort of stuff in my youth.

 

 

Stuff the replicator, I want a Holodeck! Imagine the porn!!!!

[Septic]

I was watching The Universe documentary and there are still opposing views regarding the shape of the universe. Some believe it might curve in on itself like you mention Scott whilst others believe it is flat. NASA sent out a probe to find this out by using lasers;

 

-Basically they used 3 lasers (not 100% sure, might be 2) and shot them out into the vastness of space. They apprently got a near perfect 180 degree figure suggesting the universe is flat but some scientists go on to suggest that the universe might be ever so slightly curved in the middle but our equipment cannot measure it.

 

There are also theories of pre-Big Bang quantum physics regarding membranes initiating loads of Big Bangs! That means loads of universes being spawned all the time! It did it get a bit crazy and hard to get your head round after that. Universes in little bubbles and alternative universes where exact copies of ourselves live their lives- then MULTIPLE ALTERNATIVE UNIVERSES where every possible action that could occur would be occurring considering the theory of probability.....its gets too much!

[tbourner]

There are also theories of pre-Big Bang quantum physics regarding membranes initiating loads of Big Bangs! That means loads of universes being spawned all the time! It did it get a bit crazy and hard to get your head round after that. Universes in little bubbles and alternative universes where exact copies of ourselves live their lives- then MULTIPLE ALTERNATIVE UNIVERSES where every possible action that could occur would be occurring considering the theory of probability.....its gets too much!

 

I love the infinite universe idea, it's a bit like the infinite hotel, there would not only be a universe somewhere that is identical to ours except our ears are shaped like penguins, but there would actually be an infinite number of such universes!! Weird.

 

I'm not picking on you BTW Sep, you just seem to keep making posts I want to reply to

[imi]

 

There are also theories of pre-Big Bang quantum physics regarding membranes initiating loads of Big Bangs! That means loads of universes being spawned all the time! It did it get a bit crazy and hard to get your head round after that. Universes in little bubbles and alternative universes where exact copies of ourselves live their lives- then MULTIPLE ALTERNATIVE UNIVERSES where every possible action that could occur would be occurring considering the theory of probability.....its gets too much!

 

reminds me a clips from the matrix and men in black....

 

in any case, these are all theories and good to see that we are trying to push our mental boundaries.....

[Ric]

God did it, obviously.

 

I expected "I did it, obviously."

 

You're slipping Thorin..

[Septic]

I love the infinite universe idea, it's a bit like the infinite hotel, there would not only be a universe somewhere that is identical to ours except our ears are shaped like penguins, but there would actually be an infinite number of such universes!! Weird.

 

I'm not picking on you BTW Sep, you just seem to keep making posts I want to reply to

 

Haha I know its all good. Maybe there is a version of the universe where I'm an atheist in which case, I would no doubt be riddled with multiple STDs