That cat didn't get the worst of it...

[garethr]

You lot do realise that drowning was an acceptable way to dispose of unwanted puppies and kittens in the "civilized" UK until comparatively recently don't you? Now we know better.

 

If your imaginative and sick punishments had been applied 50 or 60 years ago in Britain half of you would never have been born.

 

Frankly, I'm more worried about some of the people who have posted in this thread than I am about some anonymous east European who probably just needs educating... and a local version of the PDSA.

[Attero]

You lot do realise that drowning was an acceptable way to dispose of unwanted puppies and kittens in the "civilized" UK until comparatively recently don't you? Now we know better.

 

If your imaginative and sick punishments had been applied 50 or 60 years ago in Britain half of you would never have been born.

 

Frankly, I'm more worried about some of the people who have posted in this thread than I am about some anonymous east European who probably just needs educating... and a local version of the PDSA.

 

That is true. My girlfriend also said the same thing. When people got a voilent pup, they would just throw it away like this girl has done. It would save the costs of having to get the vets to do it.

[AndrewOW]

We're all accessories to murder in some way or another. Whether we eat it or wear it.

 

I, for one, won't lose any sleep over the meat on my plate, but when I see cruelty to helpless, harmless animals, then I will get angry and upset.

 

Burn the witch!

 

Now, where's my pitchfork?!

[Attero]

Here comes the mkiv mob.

[supra_aero]

Have they found out who she is yet?

 

It's one thing to do a stupid cruel act but another to film it and upload it on the internet. That's not only stupid but mindless stupidity. She must have really thought it'd be funny to upload it.

 

Hope she gets her karma.

[Thorin]

I find most vegetarians/vegans to be hypocrites. Discuss.

[Matt H]

Wow. So much thought gone on in this thread.

 

What a horrible child. I haven't watched the video and won't, perhaps it's not even real.

 

There's a big difference between killing for fun and killing for food.

[Matt H]

I find most vegetarians/vegans to be hypocrites. Discuss.

 

Because they come across so all mighty on one particular subject, but there's thosands of other flaws in human nature which they exploit on a daily basis?

 

Or because they kill loads of flys with there cars each summer but they still drive!! Poor glow bugs

[AndrewOW]

I find most vegetarians/vegans to be hypocrites. Discuss.

 

 

Especially the recently 'converted'.

 

A bit like people that stop smoking, then hate people that smoke. D'oh!

[Septic]

I couldn't get myself to watch the video. Absolutely disgusting. The lack of compassion on that girl's face is just shocking.

 

I actually couldn't care less if someone [*edit*] slapped that girl's face.

 

Poor puppies.

[Attero]

She even said, "woooo!" as shew threw them.

[AlexM]

Either some of you are very disturbed, or you watch far too many horror movies.

[AndrewOW]

Either some of you are very disturbed, or you watch far too many horror movies.

 

 

Horror movies aren't real.

 

I haven't watched this 'video', though, and I won't.

[JamesArup]

.. some anonymous east European who probably just needs educating.

 

Agree with the whole hypocrisy argument about the majority of us being meat eaters, makes sense. Although it will usually just break down in to a discussion about society and expectations.

 

For example, in our culture, specific animals are born, bred and raised for their meat (i.e. cows). So the expectation is that they will eventually find their way onto our plates which, however much we try to ignore the fact, requires them to be 'dispatched' in some way.

 

Dogs (and cats etc) however, are born and bred as pets (in our culture). There is no expectation that they will be eaten or butchered, hence the outrage when something like this happens.

 

Although I am not sure that 'educating' her will help. I may be wrong, but I think it is natural human behaviour, regardless of who you are, to feel some kind of emotion over a tiny, helpless little puppy. Especially when they are crying like that. The same goes for any new-born animal to be honest, be it a pet or an animal that is bred for purpose. This woman/girl showed no emotion at all. She was cold, calculated, callous and seemed amused by the whole thing. As did whoever was filming. I am not sure that you can "educate" that out of someone!

 

I am fully aware that this argument wouldn't stand up in some parts of the world where animals that we regard as pets are bred for food, and that is fair enough, it's their culture (not saying I like it, but that's a by-product of MY culture). But it seems like this girl is European and, to my knowledge, the culture across Europe when it comes to these matters is pretty much the same (with perhaps the exception of horses which we don't eat in the UK).

 

So, in my opinion, she's evil ... burn her!

[tbourner]

Surely if everyone was vegan there'd be no chickens or cows any more and they'd become extinct?

 

Also, it doesn't matter what was an acceptable way to kill a puppy 60 years ago, nowadays we slaughter animals in the most humane way possible, and recently have started keeping them and breeding them in better and better environments as well, so to murder a puppy or a cow in an inhumane way gets the same sort of reaction from most people.

Incidentally, we are the top animal on the planet, so I'm not one of these nutters who suggests she should have her arms pulled off and stuck up her arse or anything, she's a wrongun no doubt but drowning puppies is hardly worthy of a death sentence.

[Attero]

It's not worth a death sentence at all. But it's worth a slap for just pure cruelty.

[Tricky-Ricky]

Incidentally, we are the top animal on the planet, so I'm not one of these nutters who suggests she should have her arms pulled off and stuck up her arse or anything, she's a wrongun no doubt but drowning puppies is hardly worthy of a death sentence.

 

But the whole point people are making is that its done in a most cruel, callous and inhumane way, and IMO we don't need people with that sort of attitude in this world!

 

And before we change the subject, yes there are also so many more people who do a lot worse, that also are not needed.

[Mike]

I'm with Red... if you going to eat some types of animals, but then get upset when some other types of animals die.... then it's a fairly flawed argument.

 

Yes, this is a barbaric way to do away with animals, but have you seen what they do to cows/pigs/chickens? It's not nice either.

[Septic]

How the issues of animal cruelty in this case and eating non-veg are intertwined here is beyond me.

 

The meat that we eat (generalisation) isnt a result of us drowning that said animal, or suffocating them, beating them etc.

 

It's not a flawed argument and nor is there any hypocrisy in feeling for an animal who is tortured whilst being a meat eater.

[Matt H]

How the issues of animal cruelty in this case and eating non-veg are intertwined here is beyond me.

 

Me too.

[RedM]

I'm with Red... if you going to eat some types of animals, but then get upset when some other types of animals die.... then it's a fairly flawed argument.

 

Yes, this is a barbaric way to do away with animals, but have you seen what they do to cows/pigs/chickens? It's not nice either.

 

If anyone would like to see how animals are treated on the way to your plates then have a look at most of the stuff that PETA put online. If you're feeling really tough then find a film called Earthlings and watch that.

 

How the issues of animal cruelty in this case and eating non-veg are intertwined here is beyond me.

 

The meat that we eat (generalisation) isnt a result of us drowning that said animal, or suffocating them, beating them etc.

 

Film. Earthlings. Watch.

[TopgunTT]

If anyone would like to see how animals are treated on the way to your plates then have a look at most of the stuff that PETA put online. If you're feeling really tough then find a film called Earthlings and watch that.

 

 

 

Film. Earthlings. Watch.

 

Only 1 copy of Earthlings on ebay and currently at £13.50

[Matt H]

If anyone would like to see how animals are treated on the way to your plates then have a look at most of the stuff that PETA put online. If you're feeling really tough then find a film called Earthlings and watch that.

 

I agree that the journey that animals take to finding themselves on your my plate can be horrid, but does that mean I'm going to stop eating meat because there's a failing in the system that allows it to happen? It's like taking a sledge hammer to crack open a walnut. If you simply don't like an animal dying to feed you, then fair enough, but if someone's ok with the concept of eating meat then they're going to want a reform of the system rather than just saying enough.

 

For me, I buy free range stuff whenever I can because I believe in treating animals as well as possible, but we're omnivores at the end of the day.

[Tricky-Ricky]

I'm with Red... if you going to eat some types of animals, but then get upset when some other types of animals die.... then it's a fairly flawed argument.

 

Yes, this is a barbaric way to do away with animals, but have you seen what they do to cows/pigs/chickens? It's not nice either.

 

How the issues of animal cruelty in this case and eating non-veg are intertwined here is beyond me.

 

The meat that we eat (generalisation) isnt a result of us drowning that said animal, or suffocating them, beating them etc.

 

It's not a flawed argument and nor is there any hypocrisy in feeling for an animal who is tortured whilst being a meat eater.

 

 

So if we are meat eaters, then we have no right to criticise any form of animal cruelty.

 

So if we are tax payers, therefore we have no right to criticise the government.

 

We are human beings so we have no right to criticise other's that wage war.

 

Hypocrisy's is a double edged sword;)

[SupraStar 3000]

She sounds Russian at the very end.