Rob_Mitchell Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 which 200sx would you recommend for drifting or another car? currently looking to buy and advertise the company plus have some fun thanks guys oops got the title wrong should be 200sx, ha ha sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Safely Insured Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 They all make good Drift cars, s13 being a good basis for most first time drifters. Probably a question better asked on the Driftworks forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Mitchell Posted August 19, 2010 Author Share Posted August 19, 2010 yeah the s13 would be ideal i think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevins Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 S13 is great for learning, and cheaper to repair than the s14 and s14a, dont bother with the s15 silvia as they aint cheap on parts. Im currently looking for a s14a myself. 13's have the 1.8t which can be a pain in the arse, but the 14's have the 2l's in them, and suffer with vtt rattle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcarrter21 Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 i used to have an s14a. it was a really nice car but my engine hadnt been treated nicely hence vvt rattle and i think the bottom end was knocking. if i had another i think it would have to have a 2jz in it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevins Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 by all accounts its the actual pulley wears and not the solenoid, the later solenoids #49 have a sprung ball bearing in it keeping a small amount of oil pressure in it to reduce the problem. From what I have found out a replacement pulley can cost from 400 to 600. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tDR Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Nah S13's are almost all full of rust and the CA18DET engine is weak with chocolote big ends. Best plump for an S14a - excellent value for money if you can find one without any rust (big enemy on the Nissans), a much more natural drift car with more lock than the S13 IMO - I've drifted both so commenting based on 1st hand experience. The SR20DET engine is a stronger engine with easy 300bhp potential - in a pretty light car it makes for excellent performance. Still not a patch on a JZ reliability wise with some niggling faults like vvt sprocket leaks and crude design that can lead to problems with blocked oil spray bars on the heads being common causing issues with the fragile double rocker arm setup. Good fun cars, especially the 14/a for drifting, but engine transplants on them are common for a reason. http://www.sxoc.com/vbb is their owners club forum - very busy place with loads of useful info and great club spirit Cheers, Brian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest clive Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 first time drifter... gotta be a s14 or a s13 with a sr20det imo. s14 are silly cheap... and so easy to replace lights, wings etc..... i can replace the whole front end of my s14 for the price a headlight will cost on a s14a... but they are all rust. the s14a are now just as bad- if not worse becuase water gets behind the factory fitted side skirts and rots the sills away- where the s14 never come with any as standard as meantioned- sxoc is a awesome forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevins Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Nice info ther TDR, I have been searching through sxoc, but have come to the point where there is so many answers for the vvt rattle that i am at a loss with what's right lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Yup, had an S13..... was damn good fun... till the engine went all melty... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tDR Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Nice info ther TDR, I have been searching through sxoc, but have come to the point where there is so many answers for the vvt rattle that i am at a loss with what's right lol. Yeah there's a bunch of things but unless you're leaking a shitload of oil via the sprocket (usually just a weep of oil runs down towards the block when looking at the engine at the front) it's a case of just accept they're noisy ass unrefined engines and live with it - running a timing chain means they were never gonna be smooth and quiet like a 3S-GTE in the 4-Cyl world. With the stock T28 though they do pull hard from low RPM's with BPU type mods which makes for very useable torque whilst drifting. With it swapped out for the bolt onto the stock manifold GT28RS you can make even more power without sacrificing the driveability - a very nice setup, have been out in a few cars like that. The limitation becomes the stock gearbox when tuning and giving the car drift abuse really - it's pretty weak. I'd have a 14a for drifting purely to get as new a 200SX as possible to try to get a rust free chassis / body, BPU it then have fun abusing it 'til the engine or box went pop. Then likely swap out for a 1JZ / R154 combo for more reliability with an increase in power and torque across the rev range for not a lot of cash The S15 is very nice to look at but pretty much the same car as the S14a underneath with an even weaker 6-Sp box, so certainly not worth the premium for a fun / drift car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Mitchell Posted August 19, 2010 Author Share Posted August 19, 2010 cheers brian, nice bit of info. im only hunting at the moment and work which needs doing is not a problem. a s14a would be nice but still exspensive for a bit of fun thing but cheap ones are around. thanks for all the info lads its really handy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pistonbroke Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 An NA Supra? Also, my cousin directed me to this sale thread on Driftworks forums where this dude sells imported drift cars. You'll drop your jaw at some of the prices these cars sell for (as in dirt cheap) I had a long chat with my cousin about buying a drift car after supra pod and spending all day in his 1-via going sideways. . He suggested I buy a car with most the modding done, as in roll cage, suspension, engine upgrades and diff. Being in your trade, you could buy a car from this dude, then make it look how you want. http://www.driftworks.com/forum/japaneseusedcars-com/54246-car-day-japanese-car-auctions.html Scroll to the recent pages in the thread for more up to date cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest clive Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 TRUST ME!!! s14a are just as rusty as all the others now due to the factory fitted skirts... get a s14 for the reasons i mentioned above vvt... well just live with it. to buy a new sprocket is "only" £250 new (frp sports) but in uk they are something silly like 500quid new :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Mitchell Posted August 19, 2010 Author Share Posted August 19, 2010 yeah dan wish i spent some time talking to him now, its only a bit of fun not looking to do it all the time as i love the supra too much. ill end up loving it and chroming it ha ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevins Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 So i am safe to go for a x reg s14a with a noisy vvt, thats good to know then. I want to get as new as possible really without going to the 15 silvia. The 14a looks nicer apart from the arse end as with all of them its just too high from the dirt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Mitchell Posted August 19, 2010 Author Share Posted August 19, 2010 So i am safe to go for a x reg s14a with a noisy vvt, thats good to know then. I want to get as new as possible really without going to the 15 silvia. The 14a looks nicer apart from the arse end as with all of them its just too high from the dirt. oi this is my thread you bully new ones are a waste for me because i just want to go like a mad man in it and not care if i fook it but the paint job will be awesome lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevins Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 oi this is my thread you bully new ones are a waste for me because i just want to go like a mad man in it and not care if i fook it but the paint job will be awesome lol lol im sorry hows this for a project car for you to drift http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1868239.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevins Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Also this one with a forged engine but its a 13 http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1936328.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest clive Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 black one looks nice- but be sure to pay 5-6k for it... black s14a are the most expensive (apart from s15...) ill dig out a linking showing how bad, even s14a's rust... http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=452424&highlight=mot&page=4 5.5k for a rust bucket.... (go from page one for giggles ) oh and the s13... meh- no mention of mapping... probably just photocopied a mates receipts for re-build... turbo smoke could be covering up other issues. oh and remember- for ever 10% of rust you can see... there is 90% you cant see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Mitchell Posted August 19, 2010 Author Share Posted August 19, 2010 only joking nevins lol good finds mate, tbo i think im after a bucket (bodywork) not much rust but good runner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest clive Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 found a bargain for ya: Hi all the car is back up for sale due to timewasters you know who you are,any ways rant over, my 1998 damson stage 2 car is for sale again ,no tax,mot till december.the milage is 86000 miles and i have owned the car for 4years, it is full stage 2 minus 3" downpipe as i have fitted both cats , it has a rps max street clutch,nismo engine and gearbox mountsand is lowered on tein springs with whiteline adj front and rear antiroll bars,brakes are dp power m3 315mm discs and front ds2000 pads,i am asking £2500 no offers, if still for sale this time next mounth it will be broken and i will keep the engine for a cateram :nod:no good at uploading pics so if any kind soul could post them for me,i will send via email,yours andy535is. Photo's Now uploaded for Seller: More available here Wouldnt mind sum interior pics to show seat wear, dash, service history/paperwork etc? Also original reg, No. of owners. Scratches/all rust known. cant link it as you need to be a member of sxoc to view the forsale section lot of car, and a s14a for 2.5k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Mitchell Posted August 19, 2010 Author Share Posted August 19, 2010 cheers clive looks nice, i want something cheap though lol like £1000 and strip the lot, repaint. simples...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 An NA Supra? A Supra is not a good car to learn to drift in. It's too heavy, and is a bit of a handful for a learner as you need much better speed to get a real slide going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Mitchell Posted August 19, 2010 Author Share Posted August 19, 2010 what about a stripped out 300zx? i know its heavy but my dads is good fun. yeah supra not good as ill turn it into a show car lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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