marbleapple Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Evening all, I am currently trying to work out the cost of running a 7.5 ton horsebox (don't ask). The AA provide 'official' costings for running cars which actually break down the expense down to per mile of motoring: http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/running_costs/petrol2010.pdf Simply question: Does anyone know of a similar site or table for lorries? Cheers guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozz Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 I'll ask the missus when she's back from feeding horses, we have a smaller horsevan but I think she looked into the 7.5 tonners. One issue was she could drive it, I couldn't, something to do with the standard license change around 1998/99. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purity14 Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Yes, Theres a stupid rule that if you obtained your licence before a certain date you are eligable to drive more vehicles. For example, I passed in 2002 - I cant legally tow a trailer, id have to take a trailer test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbleapple Posted August 16, 2010 Author Share Posted August 16, 2010 Thanks guys. I don't plan to own a horse box, I just need to be able to find a website similar to the AA one for lorries. I need to establish the official cost per mile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozz Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Missus said on the horse forum they reckon £1000/per year to keep the van just standing still, then add extra for diesel/depreciation. The van needs to be plated which is more stringent than a MOT. Also, if you are intended to make money from transporting horses you need an operators licenses. Payload is another issues, even though its 7.5tonnes you may be limited to 2 horses, you should get any van weighed so you know unlaiden weight. Hope that helps! I'm just glad she was happy with the 3.5 tonner we bought, that was £12k and the 7.5tonners a lot more if they were tidy. D'oh, just read your reply, I typed to slow! Missus doesn't know anyway of getting that info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Came across this, although no data table like the AA one. http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=222693 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckler Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Yes, Theres a stupid rule that if you obtained your licence before a certain date you are eligable to drive more vehicles. For example, I passed in 2002 - I cant legally tow a trailer, id have to take a trailer test. on your licence, you can tow an unbraked trailer upto 750Kg. Only when you go above that with a braked trailler do you need to take a test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigelboyne Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 your diesel will be biggest expense wont do much more then 10/12 mpg. what type of truck you thinking about stay away from iveco, little daf 45 nice truck sorry read the thread wrong, maybe some of the tow truck guys can help they usually have 7.5 tonners for recovery of cars etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purity14 Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 on your licence, you can tow an unbraked trailer upto 750Kg. Only when you go above that with a braked trailler do you need to take a test. Yes, but that is somewhat limiting(i.e. not many cars weigh less, and I have only been interested in towing cars), ive gotten away with using a towing dolly a few times, but I wouldnt want to get caught and given a weigh-in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie82 Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Yes, Theres a stupid rule that if you obtained your licence before a certain date you are eligable to drive more vehicles. For example, I passed in 2002 - I cant legally tow a trailer, id have to take a trailer test. hmmm didnt know about that, i also passed in 2002 and have towed a trailer a fair few times opppps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbleapple Posted August 16, 2010 Author Share Posted August 16, 2010 your diesel will be biggest expense wont do much more then 10/12 mpg. what type of truck you thinking about stay away from iveco, little daf 45 nice truck sorry read the thread wrong, maybe some of the tow truck guys can help they usually have 7.5 tonners for recovery of cars etc Thanks for the response nigel. I am not looking to get a lorry, I really am just looking for facts and figures from 'official' sources such as the AA etc and wondered if anyone know if there was any. Came across this, although no data table like the AA one. http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=222693 Cheers Abz. I had already found that. The problem is that, like nigel's post, it is not really 'facts' its just opinions or personal experience etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Road Haulage Association web site perhaps? Transport manager at one of the hundreds of courier companies? A horse box won't have running costs per mile any different to any other 7.5 tonne box, apart from depreciation costs may vary a bit. Road tax is quite cheap, my 18 tonner is a lot cheaper to tax then the wife's Jeep Cherokee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy_supra Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Yes, but that is somewhat limiting(i.e. not many cars weigh less, and I have only been interested in towing cars), ive gotten away with using a towing dolly a few times, but I wouldnt want to get caught and given a weigh-in. In the DSA Driving Essential Skills book it tells you that you can tow a trailer aslong as the combined weight of car and trailer does not exceed 3.5 tonnes so it is not that limiting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbleapple Posted August 17, 2010 Author Share Posted August 17, 2010 Road Haulage Association web site perhaps? Transport manager at one of the hundreds of courier companies? A horse box won't have running costs per mile any different to any other 7.5 tonne box, apart from depreciation costs may vary a bit. Road tax is quite cheap, my 18 tonner is a lot cheaper to tax then the wife's Jeep Cherokee. Chris, Thanks very much for this. Just got off the phone to the road haulage association (never heard of them before) and they have sent me a huge PDF giving me a break down of costings. Perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Not a problem, good luck with the case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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