Swampy442 Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 This is why you run a beater, so you can keep the nice car in the garage during the shit weather My last Aristo was good going up snowy hills as the ABS/TRC system is actually rather effective, coming down was a different matter! Ellis, you know the Adam and Eve pub? Got in their car park in the snow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty71 Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 I'm starting to get the feeling driving a Sup in the snow is not a good idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arbedark Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Sorry to be blunt but if the back end is as twitchy in rain as you say there are 3 things wrong. 1) Your skimping on cheep ass shitty tyres that could kill you by putting you in a ditch. 2) Your driving like a cock in inapropriate road conditions. 3) Both of the above Not not realy no unless the roads are clear and you can be reasonably certain its not going to snow a lot more or you are prepaired to go very very slowly. 1) Purchased from Jurgen less than 2 weeks ago - tyres are what came with car. 2) By torrential rain conditions I do mean torrential. Overflowing drains, rivers in road etc, more like a skidpan than a road, not a light misting. And I state that I floor it in "snow" mode, of course it's inappropriate driving, I'm trying to get a feel for how the car reacts under different circumstances etc, and I found that without featherlight throttle response it was twitchy. I'd rather find this out now and if I can handle the Supra in bad weather or not and whether I'll need a second car for winter (like yourself) rather than finding this out in the middle of winter. So if taking the Supra out at all in bad weather is driving like a cock in inappropriate weather conditions, then guilty. If not, I'd hardly call determining that one needs to be careful of the throttle in bad weather "driving like a cock". Or how can putting the car in "snow" mode in bad weather be "driving like a cock" (aside from the flooring it part )? 3) To be honest I think it's more of a lack of driving experience with the Supra than either of those Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo2810 Posted August 11, 2010 Author Share Posted August 11, 2010 Sorry to be blunt but if the back end is as twitchy in rain as you say there are 4 things wrong. 1) Your skimping on cheep ass $#@!ty tyres that could kill you by putting you in a ditch. 2) Your driving like a cock in inapropriate road conditions. full throttle (or anywhere near it) in wet weather is not a good idea in a RWD car unless you have a good set of tyres, the geo is set up correctly and your pointing in a very strait line on a nice flat bit of road with no manhole covers or changes in surface. 3) Your geo is screwed up. 4) All of the above I'm in agreement... My Sup drives as well in the wet as it does in the dry (within reason) and that's with brand new Falken 452's on the back, half worn Falken 451's (I think) on the front and I've only just had a full geo done which corrected a badly out camber. When I replace the fronts with new rubber it should be even better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathanc Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 A lot of frustration. Days or weather depending, weeks of your car laying up in yoiur driveway. Hairy moments when you do have the car on the road will also bring you to the brink of heart failure. Supra's and snow are like children and guns, dont mix them. +1 also a chance of humiliation by a certain Fiat Punto diesel off the lights.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyer864 Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Believe me a supra is not for the snow ! Last year i had to abandon my car for 4 days , couldn't get the 600 yrds to my house, which yes is on an incline ! I held the rest of the traffic up for around 50mins as they were crawling behind me and getting stuck aswell, my ears must av been red hot lol. It doesn't help having a na with an open diff. and large rear tyres , just waiting to happen Thats why i'm looking at buying a cheap run around eg. older subaru legacy this year, Awd and an estate car which is handy for space etc, as i'm always stuck for moving things ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kill1308 Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 You can expect no grip whatsoever and a twitchy rear end. The back end of the Supe will also twitch a lot too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilicos Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Rear wheel drive + 1.6 tonnes + wide tyres+ 2mph = slow slide into parked neighbours car and then bounced off at 1mph for a further 10 feet into lamp-post. At least it did for me last year!! Oh Yeah, got stranded 3 times in 5 days also! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Ellis, you know the Adam and Eve pub? Got in their car park in the snow. In the Aristo?!? I can't get my Supe in there in the summer!! It grounds out big style! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilicos Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Saying that..... My cousin bought these for his M3 and was getting up hills easier than the 4wd: http://www.autosock.co.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R Black Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Supra's don't like snow, mine refused to drive onto the driveway last winter, til Ig got rid of most the snow so it could grip, Smooth inputs needed for snow n Ice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakey Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Didn't really have many problems at the begining of this year when the snow came. I had a few heart stopping moments when the brakes locked and had to pump them but other than that it was good practice. The hills in a layer of snow it was fine for me. I just put it in manu and D and it loved them . The problem was getting it moving in the first place! Managed to stuck on a speed bump in an asda carpark for a little bit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Get a set of 16 inch import rims and some decent winter tyres, the narrowest the tyre makers recommend for the rim widths (I can't remember what the stock 16 inch rim widths are, sorry). Suitable, very modest width and tall profile tyres transform anything like a MKIV in the snow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo2810 Posted August 11, 2010 Author Share Posted August 11, 2010 Cheers for the tips chaps, but I'd rather not fork out cash on anything I'm not likely to use much. I'll just not drive in heavy snow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobius Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 well my 16" wheels will be going on this winter, My N/A 3.0 ltr soarer managed no problem this year never got stuck and live on a steep hill, 7 mph light on the gas, with 265 tyres on the back. managed better than my mums focus cmax on the same hill. hopefully not much difference this year, scariest thing though with auto box is when in drive and foot brake on rear wheels just push you on regardless and fronts sale over the ice so,on drive and off drive a bit a bit at a time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseys Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Your awareness certainly is at a peak in a Supra in the snow. I will admit a manual or an NA is a lot easier to drive than an auto or a single turbo in the snow. Only time I've ever had the ABS kick in was approaching a roundabout in the snow/ice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewOW Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 I drive my Supra in the snow and ice every year, I've yet to die or end up in hospital, or even crash. Even slight inclines are troublesome in the snow though, I had to reverse out of the works car park every day since trying to go forwards was getting me nowhere. Edit: I should however add that I am awesome, and therefore YMMV. Well, you are a mod god after all! Is your Supra an auto or manual, neo? The answer is critical! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Well, you are a mod god after all! Is your Supra an auto or manual, neo? The answer is critical! Manual. I also have an ambi pur air freshener. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewOW Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Manual. I also have an ambi pur air freshener. Sorry, I know you're a very important being and all that, but the question was for neo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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