Gaz6002 Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Hungary wasn't the first time http://community.evo.co.uk/users/Roger-Green/blogs/index.cfm/2010/8/6/Dirty-Schumachers-previous-form Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 It's his thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraStar 3000 Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 He's really riding his luck. One of these days he'll kill someone or better, himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 One of these days he'll kill someone or better, himself. Maybe a bit OTT. Never wish that on anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooley Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 maybe its because im a schumy fan but had he been at the front of the pack they would have said he was protecting his lead yet all the schumy haters are now saying it was a dangerous. he didnt touch him and barri could have slowed. i cant wait for next year when he gets to grips with the car again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewOW Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Schumacher has always played dirty, but always within the fine line of the law. He's an excellent driver because of it, but it's a shame he's prepared to take his opponents out, rather than pure driving skill. Senna wasn't exactly fair either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCK10 Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 maybe its because im a schumy fan but had he been at the front of the pack they would have said he was protecting his lead yet all the schumy haters are now saying it was a dangerous. he didnt touch him and barri could have slowed. i cant wait for next year when he gets to grips with the car again. How can you possibly say that wasn't dangerous? It was out of order imo. There's protecting your line, defensive driving and then there's just outright dangerous driving. If schumacher was just being defensive he would of moved to the inside initially, but instead waited till Barrichello got along side his and then forced him into the wall. I ain't a Schumacher hater, but it was a crazy move and he could've killed both of them! Personally think he should have got more than the grid penalty. At least a single race ban. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 maybe its because im a schumy fan but had he been at the front of the pack they would have said he was protecting his lead yet all the schumy haters are now saying it was a dangerous. he didnt touch him and barri could have slowed. i cant wait for next year when he gets to grips with the car again. It's dangerous driving bud, pure and simple. It doesn't matter if you are in front or not. When someone starts to overtake you are not allowed to cut in front of them once they are past a certain point. You can weave in front of a car all you want, you aren't allowed to cut them off while overtaking though.... that's dangerous. I don't even watch F1 and I know that. By the way, Senna was the king of this style of agressive driving. The line is so fine with regards to the timing of the moves, they are/were both very good at reading that line..... sometimes crossing it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 maybe its because im a schumy fan but had he been at the front of the pack they would have said he was protecting his lead yet all the schumy haters are now saying it was a dangerous. he didnt touch him and barri could have slowed. i cant wait for next year when he gets to grips with the car again. It was the fact that he continued to move over as Barrichello was alongside that was the issue. The only reason he didn't touch him was because Barrichello had enough room (just) off the side of the track to move onto. If it had been 10 metres further up the track he would have driven Barrichello into the wall. LOL, yeah we'll all wait for next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethr Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 ...Senna was the king of this style of aggressive driving dangerous cheating... efa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseys Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 By the way, Senna was the king of this style of agressive driving. The line is so fine with regards to the timing of the moves, they are/were both very good at reading that line..... sometimes crossing it though. Yep. Senna never got as much flak for it, even considering he took out Prost that year for the championship in a very blatant manner. You race to win no matter what, otherwise you're not racing kind of dogma. Then again Schumi never got out the car and ran to the aid of other drivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Yep. Senna never got as much flak for it, even considering he took out Prost that year for the championship in a very blatant manner. You race to win no matter what, otherwise you're not racing kind of dogma. Then again Schumi never got out the car and ran to the aid of other drivers. Senna did pre-warn everyone that year though after the pole position was switched to the other side AFTER qualifying. He said that he was going to turn in to that first corner, and that Prost turned in on him that was Prost's tough luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraHuman Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Schumi is past it now, should have stayed retired, there is a new breed of drivers out there and he is taking up a spot better served by others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_p Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 And this is exactly why I don't watch F1 anymore, F1 used to be great, now everyone just pussy foot's about and penalties are being given for every little thing, F1 has turned into possibly the most boring sport in the world, it used to be great and it's only people like Michael Schumacher that are in keeping to the true F1 style, that drive to win and really push it, most F1 drivers seem more bothered about there hair staying nice and having pretty graphics on there car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Schumi is past it now, should have stayed retired, there is a new breed of drivers out there and he is taking up a spot better served by others. Yes, if anything, he is making himself look foolish... He retired being a world champion.... now, he is the moving target for everyone to beat just so they can say they did. Look at Barichello last weekend, he was more buzzed about the fact that he finally got past him (probably showing him the finger as he went past) than coming 10th... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Yes, if anything, he is making himself look foolish... He retired being a world champion.... now, he is the moving target for everyone to beat just so they can say they did. Look at Barichello last weekend, he was more buzzed about the fact that he finally got past him (probably showing him the finger as he went past) than coming 10th... This is the reason I can't believe he is doing it. Always ALWAYS go out on top leaving people wanting more. He would have been remembered as a total legend in the driving game, he was the best driver winning championships without the best car... that says it all. If he comes back and wins a world championship we will all eat our words. I would safely bet a few squids against that happening though. Saying that, he will always be remembered as a great driver. People will always remember his last years though. Just need to wait and see what these last years are going to be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 I wonder just how many rules have been introduced or have needed "clarification" because of Schumacher's antics? Pit exit white line introduced. Team orders now illegal. Any more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markylee Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 maybe its because im a schumy fan but had he been at the front of the pack they would have said he was protecting his lead yet all the schumy haters are now saying it was a dangerous. he didnt touch him and barri could have slowed. i cant wait for next year when he gets to grips with the car again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porky1978 Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 If Schuey had never done this kind of thing before i would be agreeing with you. Lets face it, the dummy has been well and truly spat out, there was some history between the two of them when they were at Ferrari, and Herr Schumacher did what he has always done in this sort of situation: Resorts to DANGEROUS manouvres to ge what he wants. I watched Top Gear the other week with the Senna tribute. Cant remember who said it now but Senna used to put other drivers into a situation by attempting to overtake dangerously, letting the other driver decide wether they were going to crash or not. This gave Senna a huge psychological edge on the competition. Seems like Schuey is trying the same to me, but you just cant do it i this day and age and expect to get away with it. My 2 penneth. Alex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_p Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 If Schuey had never done this kind of thing before i would be agreeing with you. Lets face it, the dummy has been well and truly spat out, there was some history between the two of them when they were at Ferrari, and Herr Schumacher did what he has always done in this sort of situation: Resorts to DANGEROUS manouvres to ge what he wants. I watched Top Gear the other week with the Senna tribute. Cant remember who said it now but Senna used to put other drivers into a situation by attempting to overtake dangerously, letting the other driver decide wether they were going to crash or not. This gave Senna a huge psychological edge on the competition. Seems like Schuey is trying the same to me, but you just cant do it i this day and age and expect to get away with it. My 2 penneth. Alex. He has done this kind of thing before, numerous times, it's how he goes for the lead, I for one respect him for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJP Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 maybe its because im a schumy fan but had he been at the front of the pack they would have said he was protecting his lead yet all the schumy haters are now saying it was a dangerous. he didnt touch him and barri could have slowed. i cant wait for next year when he gets to grips with the car again. cant wait until next year when all those anti-schui fans will be eating their words : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porky1978 Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 cant wait until next year when all those anti-schui fans will be eating their words : Haha. I will have a tenner with anyone that Schuey will still be a shadow of his former self next season. Cant see mercedes developing the car into a championship contender myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellybean Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Cant we just let the Drivers Race, it really has turned into the Andrex league like the Premiership, race's are won in the FIA court these days rather than on track; I want Wheel to wheel action, I want to see drivers fighting for position, Schumacher & Barrachello brought a race Car driver to last weekends race just need the rest of the field to follow suit In the Words of the Great Aryton Senna "By being a racing driver you are under risk all the time. By being a racing driver means you are racing with other people. And if you no longer go for a gap that exists, you are no longer a racing driver because we are competing, competing to win. And the main motivation is to compete for victory, it’s not to come 3rd, 4th, 5th or 6th. I race to win as long as I feel it’s possible. Sometimes you get it wrong? Sure, it’s impossible to get it right all the time. But I race designed to win, as long as I feel I’m doing it right." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_p Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Cant we just let the Drivers Race, it really has turned into the Andrex league like the Premiership, race's are won in the FIA court these days rather than on track; I want Wheel to wheel action, I want to see drivers fighting for position, Schumacher & Barrachello brought a race Car driver to last weekends race just need the rest of the field to follow suit In the Words of the Great Aryton Senna "By being a racing driver you are under risk all the time. By being a racing driver means you are racing with other people. And if you no longer go for a gap that exists, you are no longer a racing driver because we are competing, competing to win. And the main motivation is to compete for victory, it’s not to come 3rd, 4th, 5th or 6th. I race to win as long as I feel it’s possible. Sometimes you get it wrong? Sure, it’s impossible to get it right all the time. But I race designed to win, as long as I feel I’m doing it right." That's exactly what I've been trying to say, I also think that intercoms should be banned, let the drivers feel alone, let them decide what to do, I mean do the drivers actually even drive the cars anymore or are they just told how to drive and then have a load of electronics to do half there job. If only Formula 1 was like it was back in the 70's/80's, it's just soooooooo boring now, and then when someone gets cut up in a corner people start moaning and then all this points system bo11ocks comes into play meaning they can't even push for the lead and the only people that can win due to this are the ones that seem to be driving Miss Daisy. Give them a car, let them race and see the magic come back into F1........... p.s. We need more drivers like Schumacher, one's that show a true desire to win and aren't more interested in keeping there hair nice than actually racing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCK10 Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 You's are all talking about Schumacher driving to win, but they were half way through the field. Were they even competing to get into the points when he done it? It was clearly just a bitter rivalry between two old team mates. Don't get me wrong. I'm all for the wheel to wheel racing and pushing the limits, but i for one don't want to see drivers getting pushed into the wall at 180+ mph on a regular basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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