Emoticons on iPhone - Messaging

[Matt H]

Adding the Emoji keyboard via the general settings will allow you to select a range of emoticons / smilies to use when messaging.

 

My query is, are they classed as standard characters that make up a text message, or are they an image, which means your message won’t be sent as a standard text?

[baldy]

sorry dont know the answer to your question

 

but i do know thy only work to other i phones,if you add one to a msg you send to another make phone the recipient never receives the msg(well they dont from me anyhow)

[martini]

Adding the Emoji keyboard via the general settings will allow you to select a range of emoticons / smilies to use when messaging.

 

My query is, are they classed as standard characters that make up a text message, or are they an image, which means your message won’t be sent as a standard text?

 

You won't see this, because you've ignored me.

 

Emoji are Japanese - and thus only Japanese phones will be able to see them, or other iPhones.

 

They use a completely different encoding and will be viewed as squares on other handsets.

 

Someone please feel free to copy this so Matt can read it.

[AndrewOW]

You won't see this, because you've ignored me.

 

Emoji are Japanese - and thus only Japanese phones will be able to see them, or other iPhones.

 

They use a completely different encoding and will be viewed as squares on other handsets.

 

Someone please feel free to copy this so Matt can read it.

 

 

I think we're all on his ignore list, but I'll give it a shot anyway.

[Purity14]

You won't see this, because you've ignored me.

 

Emoji are Japanese - and thus only Japanese phones will be able to see them, or other iPhones.

 

They use a completely different encoding and will be viewed as squares on other handsets.

 

Someone please feel free to copy this so Matt can read it.

 

I can certify that I am also ignored by Matt H

[SUPRALOOPY]

You won't see this, because you've ignored me.

 

Emoji are Japanese - and thus only Japanese phones will be able to see them, or other iPhones.

 

They use a completely different encoding and will be viewed as squares on other handsets.

 

Someone please feel free to copy this so Matt can read it.

 

I don't think I am on the ignor list:tongue:

[martini]

Maybe we should all ignore him and stop wasting our time?

 

[Pixelfill]

You won't see this, because you've ignored me.

 

Emoji are Japanese - and thus only Japanese phones will be able to see them, or other iPhones.

 

They use a completely different encoding and will be viewed as squares on other handsets.

 

Someone please feel free to copy this so Matt can read it.

 

you can't ignore mods so rest assured Matt can read this. *awaits everyone trying to ignore him*

[Matt H]

I can certify that I am also ignored by Matt H

 

Why do you think that? My ignore list has a total population of 1.

 

I don't think I am on the ignor list:tongue:

 

Of course not Dave

[Matt H]

So does anyone have an answer to the question - Cost the same to send as normal text?

[martini]

So does anyone have an answer to the question - Cost the same to send as normal text?

 

You didn't ask about the cost in the original post.

 

Yes it costs the same, providing you do not send a message larger than one SMS.

[martini]

you can't ignore mods so rest assured Matt can read this. *awaits everyone trying to ignore him*

 

Thanks.

[AndrewOW]

You didn't ask about the cost in the original post.

 

Yes it costs the same, providing you do not send a message larger than one SMS.

 

Happy to help.

[martini]

Happy to help.

 

Me too, weirdly

 

Dunno why Matt_H has blocked me

[Whitesupraboy2]

I know the answer to this.

 

if you send an emoji, it is made up of charaters : - ) for instance. Each character uses a character in the txt message up.

 

When i set up my emoji on my iphone i was sending it to my gf iphone who didnt have it setup and it took 3 or so txt characters up. So depends on the emoji how many it uses.

 

So if you have 2 characters left in a message before rolling on to number 2 txt message sending a smiley face will mean it rolls over on to the 2nd text message (i.e a 2 txt message charge if you pay for them), hope that makes sense.

[martini]

I know the answer to this.

 

if you send an emoji, it is made up of charaters : - ) for instance. Each character uses a character in the txt message up.

 

When i set up my emoji on my iphone i was sending it to my gf iphone who didnt have it setup and it took 3 or so txt characters up. So depends on the emoji how many it uses.

 

So if you have 2 characters left in a message before rolling on to number 2 txt message sending a smiley face will mean it rolls over on to the 2nd text message (i.e a 2 txt message charge if you pay for them), hope that makes sense.

 

Actually, that's not true.

 

Each emoji has the same value as a Japanese character - they are not just the simple conversion of 3 characters (i.e. : - ) ), which is why they do not show up on phones that do not have Japanese language.

 

When using emoji, the character limit of the SMS is converted from 160 down to 70 characters. If you use one in an SMS you force the whole message's encoding into Unicode rather than 7-bit GSM (SMS is a 140 byte message).

 

So to type a 160 character SMS with even just one emoji in it, forces the use of three SMS rather than just one.

[Matt H]

I know the answer to this.

 

if you send an emoji, it is made up of charaters : - ) for instance. Each character uses a character in the txt message up.

 

When i set up my emoji on my iphone i was sending it to my gf iphone who didnt have it setup and it took 3 or so txt characters up. So depends on the emoji how many it uses.

 

So if you have 2 characters left in a message before rolling on to number 2 txt message sending a smiley face will mean it rolls over on to the 2nd text message (i.e a 2 txt message charge if you pay for them), hope that makes sense.

 

Cheers mate, that's the answer I was looking for. I thought this would be the case, but I wanted to make sure before I get raped by Orange.

[martini]

Cheers mate, that's the answer I was looking for. I thought this would be the case, but I wanted to make sure before I get raped by Orange.

 

It's wrong.

[Matt H]

To the person on my Ignore list. There's a reason why you're on it, so bugger off. I don't want anything from you.

[martini]

To the person on my Ignore list. There's a reason why you're on it, so bugger off. I don't want anything from you.

 

Not even the right answer?

 

Or AIDS?

[Whitesupraboy2]

Actually, that's not true.

 

Each emoji has the same value as a Japanese character - they are not just the simple conversion of 3 characters (i.e. : - ) ), which is why they do not show up on phones that do not have Japanese language.

 

When using emoji, the character limit of the SMS is converted from 160 down to 70 characters. If you use one in an SMS you force the whole message's encoding into Unicode rather than 7-bit GSM (SMS is a 140 byte message).

 

So to type a 160 character SMS with even just one emoji in it, forces the use of three SMS rather than just one.

 

 

On the girlfriends iphone it didnt have japense characters enabled I know because I hadnt done it? or installed the app.

 

Also I use icons in most of messages to gf and on my bill Ive never seen one where it says ive used 3 messages in one go.....I try to not txt her much why you think that is??

 

I also use an app on iphone which gives me a count of characters to use and if i put sad face the count drops by 3?!?!?

 

 

Matt - copying you so you see the usfull stuff

[Matt H]

Matt - copying you so you see the usfull stuff

 

I'd rather you not do me the favour

 

As long as they're classed as SMS and not MMS that's all I need to know.

[martini]

On the girlfriends iphone it didnt have japense characters enabled I know because I hadnt done it? or installed the app.

 

Also I use icons in most of messages to gf and on my bill Ive never seen one where it says ive used 3 messages in one go.....I try to not txt her much why you think that is??

 

I also use an app on iphone which gives me a count of characters to use and if i put sad face the count drops by 3?!?!?

 

Matt - copying you so you see the usfull stuff

 

You misunderstand.

 

The iPhone uses OSX - now called iOS. This has many languages enabled by default, just like Apple's computers. You do not need to install any languages - in fact, you cannot install languages onto the iPhone. Apple controls which languages are on the iPhone.

 

If you type : - ) then that uses three characters.

 

If you use a smiley face through the use of anything other than the emoji [Japanese] keyboard, then it will only reduce via 3.

 

If you go into the language settings and enable emoji via the Japanese keyboard, it changes the encoding of the message and reduces the total characters to 70.

 

I'm not wrong on this.

[martini]

As long as they're classed as SMS and not MMS that's all I need to know.

 

They are SMS and not MMS.

 

Why didn't you ask that originally and save everyone the hassle?

[martini]

I should also add that using an SMS character-counter application isn't a valid way of refuting my explanation of the encoding changing from 7-bit GSM to Unicode. The program probably doesn't know what to do with emoji/Japanese characters.