Rob_Mitchell Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 dude i would have to contact who you got them off that aint good, i know you cant put a life line on this sort of thing but its not right. glad you calmed down mate, you a calmer man than me lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supraturbochris Posted July 31, 2010 Author Share Posted July 31, 2010 exhaust blades matey, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pistonbroke Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Just to clarify this for people. Chris has said these turbos worked fine when first fitted, which is true yes, to an extent. Chris phoned me shortley after getting them on to ask me about a noise they were making, and whether or not it was normal. I went out with him in the car and could hear they were louder than normal twins. I put this down to the fact they were oversized suspected stage 2 or 3 hybrids. My hybrids sound different to stock twins, but not overly so. Just the spool noise is slightly louder, Chris's turbos were very loud, and I suspect this wasn't down to a characteristic, but more of a sign of imminent failure. I went round there again this evening to see the aftermath, of both Chris's turbos, and his sanity. Having separated the turbos, there is a huge crack in the casing, and obvious signs of a failed repair with a weld line along the crack. Turbos in this condition should never be refurbed, it's futile to expect them to have any durability left with such damage. Someone at some point will have been aware of this crack, be it the seller of the turbos, or turbo technics. My advice was to get the seller to take up the claim with turbo technics himself, as he's the one that bought them originally, and the sale of goods contract is between them, not Chris. Chris in my eyes, is a completely innocent party in all this, and shouldn't be expected to bear the brunt of the failure. Chris has demonstrated time and time again that he is more than capable of fitting turbos, his workmanship is not in question. There is a thread on here, with pics, of my car on his drive undergoing the swap procedure. I also find the timing of the failure a hard pill to swallow, I suspect (And that's all this is, suspicion), that the seller had these turbos on his car, the noise started, so he removed them and sold them to Chris. I don't like to think that a member on here would intentionally rip another member off, but the fact these turbos failed so quickly raises some red flags IMO. The hardest thing for me, is seeing this kind of thing happen to someone I class as more than a fellow member, but as a mate. Hence the long post. Either way, I hope your refurbed turbos from CR get done ASAP, the sonner you're back behind the wheel with the BPU+ grin, the better If there's anything else you need dude, don't hesitate to give me a shout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 May I suggest that there is a big sticky put up that says; NEVER BUY SECOND HAND TURBOS! And for thoses people trying to sell them - sorry guys but bit like buying undies from M&S - you cant take 'em back when worn.... ...err, unless you like that sort of thing etc etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 May I suggest that there is a big sticky put up that says; NEVER BUY SECOND HAND TURBOS! And for thoses people trying to sell them - sorry guys but bit like buying undies from M&S - you cant take 'em back when worn.... ...err, unless you like that sort of thing etc etc... Shit a brick, where the hell did you spring from ol' man, love you, havent seen you in a long while. You still at the same place, still got that crazy dog Must pop along and see you soon Erm, back on topic.......2nd hand turbos rock and can handle 2.4bar with no supporting mods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 When I sold my turbos years ago they came back to me as the buyer had them checked over before fitting, I gave him his money straight back and the resold them for peanuts as requiring a refurb. They were fine when on my car but may have got damaged during removal, storage or shipping, they are fairly fragile. If you are trying to sell turbos I think the seller should have them checked out before hand, atleast then they could be sold with some confidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 An obvious solution to this is easy swap your TT for an NA, just as much fun How many time do we read about turbo's blowing or such like. You dont get the hassle with an NA. BUT to balance my arguement I WOULD REALLY love to have a TT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 An obvious solution to this is easy swap your TT for an NA Vehicular castration Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supraturbochris Posted August 1, 2010 Author Share Posted August 1, 2010 cheers dan, that has cleared everything up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 Whilst I am very sorry for the original poster, no one likes to be sold duff stuff and this post is not aimed at the OP. Ten years ago, there was a much better chance that parts from broken cars would be OK, now the risks are much higher, and sadly there are those that will exploit this situation. I am not suggesting that this was the case with the seller. I wonder how many checks are ever carried out by buyers when the buy second-hand stuff. When dealing with major componants that are very expensive and take many man hours to fit, surely the investment in a few precision measuring tools, is peanuts compared with the cost and inconvenience of having to strip and rebuild the motor. In the second hand market it is very much buyer beware. I have heads and blocks that appeared to have good heritage, but when dismantled, measured and compared to Toyota specs, were either beyond economic repair or right at the limit of serviceable life, with only a short life at standard engine power service. Once you start upping the power, the only specs that are acceptable are those closest to new OME figures. Going back to a seller with actual measurements rather than subjective descriptions of noises and feel or in the worst case a pile of broken bits, gives irrefutable evidence, even if the seller rightly asks for independent inspection. If parts are in spec but then let go quickly afterwards, that is just bad luck, for which the seller should not take responsibility. Buying second hand set of turbos need not be such a gamble if a good visual checks and axial and radial play measurements are taken, this will soon show up a bad set. If purchasers don't have the correct measuring gauges, a trip to a local engineering workshop armed with stock specs would be a very worth while trip. Perhaps Paul's advice is the best, as a bad set of turbos could wreck your engine and end up costing far more than a set of new turbos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supraturbochris Posted August 1, 2010 Author Share Posted August 1, 2010 just curious. Sorry off topic a bit, how much do turbos weigh in KG? im useless with weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonus_2000 Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 thanks guys, means alot. Just i pain in the ass. Little update. They are coming back off today, sending them off to turbo technics for a review into why they went pop, if they are faulty turbos which they are the seller is going to give my money back. But i need my sup, i miss her so i have just bit the bullet and bought some hybrid turbos brand new from CR turbos, exaclty what pistonbroke did, and funny how he hasnt had any trouble Thanks again guys, and cheers bonus, that decent of you but i dont really require them now. No worries mate, if you do end up needing them, just give me a shout as they are just taking up space here, so would like to see them go to a good home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supraturbochris Posted August 2, 2010 Author Share Posted August 2, 2010 thanks dude thats nice of you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 No worries mate, if you do end up needing them, just give me a shout as they are just taking up space here, so would like to see them go to a good home. Dude, talk to me Im interested...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 scott m is selling turbos i think Another option, I shall PM him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesupraboy2 Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 just curious. Sorry off topic a bit, how much do turbos weigh in KG? im useless with weight. If it helps if your thinking postage, I posted 2 with post office and cost me £18. Dont know the weight though, sorry! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darron Q Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 What the f**k is going on here then Bloody hell Chris i go a away for a week come back ill for a week and ya rebuilding ya tubs , and there fooked anyways bud ya have me number , ya know u need anything give us shout speak soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supraturbochris Posted August 2, 2010 Author Share Posted August 2, 2010 sent them this morning, cost £24 Cheers darron, mean alot. CR turbos picked the turbos up this morning, hopefully should be ready by friday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackWatch66 Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 (edited) Dude sorry to hear this when I had mine done by CR they were back within 3 working days I hope this is the same for you, as BW meet will not be the same without you Keep us updated, and hopefully catch up on friday dude Edited August 2, 2010 by BlackWatch66 (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 Dude sorry to hear this when I had mine done by CR they were back within 3 working days I hope this is the same for you, as BW meet will not be the same without you Keep us updated, and hopefully catch up on friday dude Won't be the same? If Chris doesn't turn up, no one else will! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackWatch66 Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 Won't be the same? If Chris doesn't turn up, no one else will! LOL trust me I will be there regardless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 LOL trust me I will be there regardless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supraturbochris Posted August 3, 2010 Author Share Posted August 3, 2010 hey im the organiser around here for the kent group. Trust me i will be there :cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supraturbochris Posted August 23, 2010 Author Share Posted August 23, 2010 Right little update guys. Got my original turbos back from cr turbos few days before suprapod, my god they do a fantastic job! Like brand new, i Have ran them approx 400 miles now and boosts and pulls hard everytime and i havent had any problems with them since, So cant be the way i fitted them as these turbo's would have gone too. What do you guys think? Should i name and shame this guy, because supra owners be aware, i dont want the same thing happening again to me or anyone else on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pistonbroke Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 Start a dispute thread dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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