martini Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Sounds like you read the Daily Star too. Must be a much better country now with the US of A killing off all the family's. An might sound like a shock to you and I doubt things like this would be written in a paper as such but the USA is just fighting against a group of thugs they themselves created. Amazing how this is old... it's relevant now: 6X56vWHFGGU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Abz please join the army so you can see for your self that all that stuff dose happen there I am in the bloody army No doubt it happens, but the way the media shows it as? You would think it happens everyday and all the time! We are dealing with a small group of people here. You have to remember these guys killed Russia's butts (hence why Bush's Dad wanted them). We are going to fight in their back door, do we have terrain like them to train on...No? Do we have any idea what they will do? No. We are second guessing and each time we kill a innocent member of public, the Taliban will gain another member as the father\brother etc will want revenge. Have we helped the country, No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddball87 Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Fair one what you in? the media do talk alot of bullshit and i think the army need to let the media no alot more than they let them no. We have help them most of the civi's out there like us being there but are scared to be seen talking to us because if they get seen by the Taliban they maybe killed for it. One of my work mates went on a patrol in one of the area's, They stopped at a village to talk to the village leaders after the meeting ended the patrol went on a few days later they came back to the village to find the leaders have been shot and the heads cut off by the Taliban for talking to us. You are right its a very hard war to fight because the sons in that village will most likley blame the killing on us and then join the Taliban. And it dose not help us when the Taliban use public as shields, the innocent public end up dead but that is war people die its wrong but they do. i have got lots of stuff i would like to say but i am not going to write it on here has i think many army lads on here no you can get in big shit for doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddball87 Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 There is a new white card rule now we have to see a weapon on the suspected Taliban and be fired at before we drop him. Will save a few civi's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septic Posted July 28, 2010 Author Share Posted July 28, 2010 There is a new white card rule now we have to see a weapon on the suspected Taliban and be fired at before we drop him. Will save a few civi's No it won't. Watch that chopper gunner video of the jouranlist holding a camera. Stupid yanks go" yeah that's a weapon" and proceed to shoot EVERYONE at the scene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddball87 Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 No it won't. Watch that chopper gunner video of the jouranlist holding a camera. Stupid yanks go" yeah that's a weapon" and proceed to shoot EVERYONE at the scene. i am not on about yanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddball87 Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Its better than a few years back if you saw a suspected Taliban with a weapon he would get filled with 7.62 end of. We are getting better with the rules of engagement well better for the Taliban giving them more of a chance to hit us first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Sounds like you read the Daily Star too. [/url] So you say before US of A popped into Afganistan, there was free access to education for women, there was no heroine and opium production there at all and everyone was happy and had freedom of expressing themself in no matter what topic? Oh and Al-Queda had no training camps for their soldiers there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 So you say before US of A popped into Afganistan, there was free access to education for women, there was no heroine and opium production there at all and everyone was happy and had freedom of expressing themself in no matter what topic? Oh and Al-Queda had no training camps for their soldiers there? Well "some" women had no access to a "free" education, lots of countries have issues like this. Loads of countries grow drugs including ourselves, we even import from Afganistan! Not everyone is happy & able to express themselves fully, even in the UK. Does that mean the US should then attack the UK? With regards to training camps, yes they were setup by the US to provide training. Check Martini's last video, like he says such an old video but it's true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 does that mean the US should then attack the UK? It honestly wouldn't surprise me after seeing how they have reacted to the whole BP thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 It honestly wouldn't surprise me after seeing how they have reacted to the whole BP thing. Was thinking the same earlier I feel more comfortable that they have Obama in! Then again he could be just a puppet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Was thinking the same earlier I feel more comfortable that they have Obama in! Then again he could be just a puppet. I think the problem is a lot deeper than any one man, and that American foreign policy could easily have been drawn up by infant school kids from any other society. The BP thing has underlined everything I already thought about the US way of doing things. Shocking, juvenile and counter-productive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 So you say before US of A popped into Afganistan, there was free access to education for women, there was no heroine and opium production there at all and everyone was happy and had freedom of expressing themself in no matter what topic? Oh and Al-Queda had no training camps for their soldiers there? sounds like you're living in utopia! taliban BANNED opium production in 2000: During the Taliban rule, Afghanistan saw a bumper opium crop of 4,500 metric tons in 1999,[15]. However, in July 2000, Taliban leader Mullah Mohammed Omar, collaborating with the United Nations to eradicate heroin production in Afghanistan, declared that growing poppies was un-Islamic, resulting in one of the world's most successful anti-drug campaigns. As a result of this ban, opium poppy cultivation was reduced by 91% from the previous year's estimate of 82,172 hectares. The ban was so effective that Helmand Province, which had accounted for more than half of this area, recorded no poppy cultivation during the 2001 season.[16] (source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_production_in_Afghanistan#Rise_of_the_Taliban_.281994.E2.80.932001.29) .... there is MORE opium/drugs coming out of afghanistan NOW then there ever was in the past - HOW? do you honestly believe Afghanistan/Iraq are in a better place than they were 11 years ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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