Septic Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Big news at the moment. Lots of civilian deaths that were being covered up by the USA. No surprise really. Also a pretty shocking video of the yanks in a chopper gunning down civilians just because it looks like one man has an Aka47. It turned out to be a journalist with a camera but that didnt stop the tanks gunning down everyone in the vicinity. Disgusting and just as cowardly as some insurgents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septic Posted July 26, 2010 Author Share Posted July 26, 2010 Wow switch to Sky news now for the conference. It's like listening to someone playing cod. References to ac130s and chopper gunners. 160 accounted deaths with an ac130. Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManwithSupra Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Lots of civilian deaths that were being covered up by the USA. No surprise really. 911 to add to that maybe.... lots of conspiracies around that!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraStar 3000 Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 that videos been on the internet for months! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Also a pretty shocking video of the yanks in a chopper gunning down civilians just because it looks like one man has an Aka47. It turned out to be a journalist with a camera but that didnt stop the tanks gunning down everyone in the vicinity. There was a thread on here about that? Where it was circling for some time and taking out the van and stuff? And there were apparently kids in the front of the van? Has it been deleted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 "People die due to war" - hardly the biggest shocker out there, much like the news that Pakistan are helping the Taliban and that Jordan has has some plastic surgery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attero Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Saw the video a while back on here I believe. It's sick, but we don't know who is to blame for this and who to believe when things like this happens. The same with 9/11. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evinX Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Im not suprised, you know things arnt right when you hear certain things on these subjects. Disgusting, but power corrupts. FACT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septic Posted July 26, 2010 Author Share Posted July 26, 2010 It's the cover up aspect which is interesting. Is that a big shocker or am I too naive? Documents being leaked like this is a big shocker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steady_dave Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Saw the video a while back on here I believe. It's sick, but we don't know who is to blame for this and who to believe when things like this happens. The same with 9/11. The Taliban are responsible for 9/11 not the Americans, and the Americans aren't as careful as they should be. Doesn't that just sum this up? What's the story here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Disgusting, but power corrupts. FACT. Exactly, just look at JamieP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septic Posted July 26, 2010 Author Share Posted July 26, 2010 Well Dave, the above doesn't sum it up really because these reports confirm the more malicious criticisms levied against the US. Can we then truly trust their so-called evidence on Taliban involvement in 9/11? Even if we can, it still brings up the question of the legitimacy of the war in Afghanistan in the first place considering the nature of the Taliban (size and entity) and our continued involvement in this wretched war. Our soldiers die for this B.S war and more importantly, innocent civilians die. It's a reciprocal cycle. Leaks like this confirm the truth, the truth that governments and the military conceal from us. This truth fuels the fire and the world carries on burning. The only difference now is the fact that maybe some of us understand the existence of this seemingly unending effigy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evinX Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Exactly, just look at JamieP. LOL - I didnt say nothing about Jamie, lets jsut make that one clear! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Jordan has has some plastic surgery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attero Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 The Taliban are responsible for 9/11 not the Americans, and the Americans aren't as careful as they should be. Doesn't that just sum this up? What's the story here? I don't know... I can't be arsed to read up on all the crap that people make up just to defend the terrorism groups. You might find that the rumours were originally made by the terrorists themselves. Who knows!? Personally, I believe that it was a terrorist attack from the al-Qaeda. End of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Sue me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethr Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 The story is that we are conducting wars in two foreign countries where we have no business. That we have made things worse. That we have killed more civilians in Iraq than Saddam Hussein ever did. That we will never "win" in Afghanistan. However, it is true that none of this is news. For example, we have known about the futility of military adventures in Afghanistan since about 1840. We then confirmed it in 1880 and 1919, and the Russians were kind enough to provide additional evidence only 20-odd years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creative Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 There was a thread on here about that? Where it was circling for some time and taking out the van and stuff? And there were apparently kids in the front of the van? Has it been deleted? yup, I posted it a while ago... think I put it in NSFW so may of fallen off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 It's not a cover up as such, it's just info that's not released. When I was in afghan I went to one of the 12 hourly sit reps and the shit you hear there will make your eyes pop out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 I don't know... I can't be arsed to read up on all the crap that people make up just to defend the terrorism groups. You might find that the rumours were originally made by the terrorists themselves. Who knows!? Personally, I believe that it was a terrorist attack from the al-Qaeda. End of. No, that is what you were told. Anyway over 100,000 civilians have died, it is no secret. What can we do about it? The world just has to watch while American do what they please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 I was working at an airport last week which is also used as an american airbase to transport troops... i've NEVER seen so many kids (yes.... 95% of them looked under 21!!) in uniform going to war... perhaps they have been playing COD and believe they will respawn when shot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steady_dave Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 I think common sense has to play a part in this. I can't stand people who make up all these vast conspiracies about stuff. It's like those e-mials you get about presidents who both dated a girl with 14 letters in her name and got shot on the same day 14 years apart or something. Terrorists flew planes into some buildings, we are now at war with that terrorist group, the American Army are quite useless.................end! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Bush arranged 9/11... everybody knows that?? Oil? Money? err... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Michael Moore does a fantastic job... still surprises me people don't question the right wing BS "news" stories they are fed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 I think common sense has to play a part in this. I can't stand people who make up all these vast conspiracies about stuff. It's like those e-mials you get about presidents who both dated a girl with 14 letters in her name and got shot on the same day 14 years apart or something. Terrorists flew planes into some buildings, we are now at war with that terrorist group, the American Army are quite useless.................end! Conspiracy stuff sometimes can be OTT, however I personally think that sometimes there is some basis for it. What sources have you used to form your thoughts, is it all possible that their sources are dis-information? Whether or not you agree with the conspiracy stuff sometimes you have to listen to formulate your own views.... And saying 'I can't stand people who make up all these vast....' is very similar to the extremism that the OTT conspiracy theory people use themselves REFUSING to believe anyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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