ckorkmaz Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 hi guys.. l completed my single turbo convertion,my car needs remaping again now..When they remaping my car as twin turbo,they said £600 pounds and after that if l need to remaping again they were going to charge me for evertime just £80 pounds..l thought that was a good deal..So now l went back for again for remaing they asking me £350 pounds because its single turbo now...they says more hard to remap single turbo.. Anyone can recommend any place to go for remap around essex or kent??And how much is the remaping around? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 What ecu are you running and what else aside from the turbo has been changed??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 I can understand the garages point of view you've significantly changed the map required thus it wouldn't be a straight forward mapping tweak session. Did you ask at the time if it would be £80 to remap it from twin to single? IMO you've completely misunderstood what was on offer for each £80 session...its more likely to be tweaking to optimise the existing setup, not map a new one. If you were happy with the way the car ran I'd suggest you went back to the original garage. But as dude says without knowing which ECU it is no one can suggest alternatives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 Quite right Alex, £80 is prob just to do a few tweaks not to put it on the dyno and remap which will prob be a mornings work, we charge £95 an hour to map on the dyno so £350 is not too far off, saying that the map prob won't be a million miles out so a couple of hours may well see it done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckorkmaz Posted July 19, 2010 Author Share Posted July 19, 2010 l have Piggy Back ECU made by unichip..I bought from same garage who remap my car..And only turbo and full exhaust changhed after first time remap..be honest l didnt ask to man if its single turbo remaping included £80 pounds after first time remap..because l wasnt thinking to convert single turbo that time.. Am l happy with that garage?Be honnest no....they know nothing about supra..They just bought them dyno..They use to more in to chiping staff..And l never seen upgraded cars in there..always small cars like bmw,saxo,honda..l want to go somewhere in to real upgraded car if lm going to pay same money..l dont mind to traveling miles hours.. l still driving my car ..its goes well but l can feel it its need remaping.. u think it couse any damage driving not remap yet.?its a gt45 turbo and also changed full exhaust kit from 3 inch to 4 inch.. thanks ever so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyh Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 l have Piggy Back ECU made by unichip..I bought from same garage who remap my car..And only turbo and full exhaust changhed after first time remap..be honest l didnt ask to man if its single turbo remaping included £80 pounds after first time remap..because l wasnt thinking to convert single turbo that time.. Am l happy with that garage?Be honnest no....they know nothing about supra..They just bought them dyno..They use to more in to chiping staff..And l never seen upgraded cars in there..always small cars like bmw,saxo,honda..l want to go somewhere in to real upgraded car if lm going to pay same money..l dont mind to traveling miles hours.. l still driving my car ..its goes well but l can feel it its need remaping.. u think it couse any damage driving not remap yet.?its a gt45 turbo and also changed full exhaust kit from 3 inch to 4 inch.. thanks ever so much. if i was you i wouldn't be useing the car until you have had the map looked at there is a massive difference between single and twin turbo set up:search: i would get ryan g (2bartuning)to sort the map out, he's not to far away from you and his work is top class he completly changed my car after a remap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 I don't think Ryan supports Unichip - I'd refrain from driving until you know it's ok and properly mapped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 Unichip!!! Get a proper ECU with a Single turbo...I wouldn't put a unichip on anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckorkmaz Posted July 19, 2010 Author Share Posted July 19, 2010 can anyone give me his garage number please?l don't mind to change my ecu again.. thanks guys.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyh Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 his number is 07812786303 i believe he is on holiday at the moment but im sure he will be back soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 He's in Australia for another 4 weeks or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyh Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 failing that give paul a ring at whifbitz see if he will beable to help 02083671286 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Supra-T Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 AFR tuning in Crawley!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterSheen Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 AFR tuning in Crawley!! Seconded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 We would not want to touch it with a Unichip, seen casios that would work better, a single turbo really needs a decent ecu dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckorkmaz Posted July 19, 2010 Author Share Posted July 19, 2010 ok guys ,thanks for your advice,,l will call to afr tuning tomorrow,as they are not thouching to unichip l might get a new ecu.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Its not a case of not touching it, the system will never do what you want and the car will never run right, you would be throwing good money after bad and we would feel like we were ripping you off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraDan24 Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Its not a case of not touching it, the system will never do what you want and the car will never run right, you would be throwing good money after bad and we would feel like we were ripping you off. Very honest of you dude You'd be mental not to take these guys advice mate, give AFR a ring and see what ECU they suggest, then invest in one. Seems like the logical course of action to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 (edited) Very honest of you dude You'd be mental not to take these guys advice mate, give AFR a ring and see what ECU they suggest, then invest in one. Seems like the logical course of action to me. Depending on wether he is 6spd or auto any of the main ecu's will do the trick, F-Con, Solaris/Syvecs, AEM etc, they are all very good and come down to personal choice, we all know what mine will be!!! It all comes down to being installed correctly and mapped properly, I know who would be mapping mine but there are many other mappers out there all doing a fine job, luckily mapping seems to have come down a bit, I remember certain 'skyline' specialists charging well over £1K for a map and Leon at JPS had a bill from another firm well known for around £5k and the engine failed on the way home, so choose your mapper well!!!! Edited July 20, 2010 by dude (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Supra-T Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 And some mappers have no idea what cold start is!! So it all works fine, you go home and the next day the car doesn't want to start!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Thats always awkward as you get so little time with cold start, we start setting the cold start up as soon as we can then over a couple of days get it spot on, you can't do that when you just pay a flying visit to a dyno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraDan24 Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 What does Cold Start mean in this context? I'm assuming something to do with the mapping being no good when the car hasnt been started in a couple of days making it run badly/not at all?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeny Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 ... I remember certain 'skyline' specialists charging well over £1K for a map and Leon at JPS had a bill from another firm well known for around £5k and the engine failed on the way home, so choose your mapper well!!!! 5K for a map!! Outrageous! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonkin Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 What does Cold Start mean in this context? I'm assuming something to do with the mapping being no good when the car hasnt been started in a couple of days making it run badly/not at all?? Pretty much that. When a car is mapped it needs to be setup so that it can start perfectly when completely cold but also when its hot, for example when stopping to fill up with petrol. Different settings need adjusting for both situations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Cold start mapping is not easy, when every thing is cold the fuel from the injectors does not behave the same way as when the engine is hot so you get vapour condensing on the cold surfaces instead of staying as a nice ignitable vapour, but then everything changes rapidly, so the map has to respond accordingly once it fires up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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