evinX Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 Hey all, something that keeps crossing my mind after meeting a really messed up person, do you beileve in god? or a god but dont follow a religion like me? Well i met someone religious and in my opinion, they were seriously tapped in the head, he seems to think that god is forgiving. Ok so do i, but hear this... If you do something wrong, god will forgive you, if you ask rite? becuase you were really sorry and regret it and didnt mean to do something bad. But if you know you are doing wrong and keep doing wrong, do you think god will forgive you just becuase you asked? even though you knew you were doing wrong and kept doing wrong. Imo if you did wrong and are really sorry deep down you will be forgiven. And if you actually meant to do wrong, this will be seen and you wont be forgiven, messed up thing is, ive heard a few opinions from different angles and people actually seem to think they will be forgiven even if they wake up knowing they are going to do something wrong that day, and all they have to do is ask for forgivness and everything will be ok for them. What do you think about that? He seems to think he can do wrong things, and then ask for forgivness each time to make it all ok. Discuss:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 Ibtl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evinX Posted July 18, 2010 Author Share Posted July 18, 2010 Why would this get locked?? something on my mind and would like to hear some decent opinions on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 Or as the dyslexic said “is there a dog” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evinX Posted July 18, 2010 Author Share Posted July 18, 2010 Or as the dyslexic said “is there a dog” Well he beileves in a god, and thinks god will save him for doing soemething bad each time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 Why would this get locked?? something on my mind and would like to hear some decent opinions on this. It's going to go downhill faster than gravity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evinX Posted July 19, 2010 Author Share Posted July 19, 2010 IMO http://i701.photobucket.com/albums/ww12/AmiCreation/284-religion-theyre-all-basically-l.jpg I want to laugh but i wont, just out of respect for peeps beliefs when it comes to religion. I know what your saying though;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evinX Posted July 19, 2010 Author Share Posted July 19, 2010 It's going to go downhill faster than gravity. lets just keep it on topic, i dont want to hear about religion itself, i want to hear opinions on this guys way of thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 Serious reply: Interesting thread... I've no problem at all whatever anyone believes or how strongly they believe it - as long as they don't try to convince me I have to believe it too. I'm just more than happy to wait and see (and as I'm older than most on here, I'll probably know first) G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axle Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 (and as I'm older than most on here, I'll probably know first) G Can i buy your RSR exhaust off you before you go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evinX Posted July 19, 2010 Author Share Posted July 19, 2010 Can i buy your RSR exhaust off you before you go? And ill take your exhaustless supra, Gerry. cough cough, back on topic please i dont want this to get locked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purity14 Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 Amos 1:3 Thus saith the LORD; For three transgressions of Damascus, and for four, I will not turn away the punishment thereof; because they have threshed Gilead with threshing instruments of iron: 4 But I will send a fire into the house of Hazael, which shall devour the palaces of Benhadad. 5 I will break also the bar of Damascus, and cut off the inhabitant from the plain of Aven, and him that holdeth the sceptre from the house of Eden: and the people of Syria shall go into captivity unto Kir, saith the LORD. Three times = forgiven; fourth time = Destruction. There is no such thing as "unlimited chances of forgiveness", that was created by people who pick and choose from the bible. If you want to stop sinning, then you stop. If you keep doing it, just dont do it that fourth time, otherwise its eternal damnation for you friend. So Evinx, why do you hate Jesus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCK10 Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 Personally I don't believe it all (god,devil,ghosts,afterlife etc). We live then we die. Simple. I'd rather spend my time thinking about what's going on now, rather than what will happen when I die. I do however think that there is a possibility of lifeforms on other planets * awaits abuse * lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axle Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 Yes, ofcourse there is a god. Lock thread now please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a98pmalcolm Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 there is no god in my eyes.... If there was y are the so many different types? muslims, christian, seks ect etc.... If there was a god there would be 1 religion... How can our god create the world? When allah created the world? and the other gods out there did.... i mean seriously!! It doesnt add up! People just beleive in Gods so hey have sumin to belive in! If there is a god (and there isnt) and i died and went to the big golden gates... i'll be having some serious talks with that man/woman! We are just objects. like an apple, or a blade of grass etc... we just evolved quicker and better.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evinX Posted July 19, 2010 Author Share Posted July 19, 2010 Amos 1:3 Thus saith the LORD; For three transgressions of Damascus, and for four, I will not turn away the punishment thereof; because they have threshed Gilead with threshing instruments of iron: 4 But I will send a fire into the house of Hazael, which shall devour the palaces of Benhadad. 5 I will break also the bar of Damascus, and cut off the inhabitant from the plain of Aven, and him that holdeth the sceptre from the house of Eden: and the people of Syria shall go into captivity unto Kir, saith the LORD. Three times = forgiven; fourth time = Destruction. There is no such thing as "unlimited chances of forgiveness", that was created by people who pick and choose from the bible. If you want to stop sinning, then you stop. If you keep doing it, just dont do it that fourth time, otherwise its eternal damnation for you friend. So Evinx, why do you hate Jesus? Dude what the heck? lol ok another funky late night post, hate jesus? i just dont belive him, his mother and father...what are their names again? I just think they were to clever and came up with that story and got everyone including their own son, which in the end, took his life, why do i say that? because lies only end up leading to one outcome...bad, negative etc etc, so my mind sees that story as a lie...dont hate me;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evinX Posted July 19, 2010 Author Share Posted July 19, 2010 Guys, back on topic, back on topic, were on about this guys view!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septic Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 If there is no God, our life, feelings, emotions, children, everything ie negligible. They mean nothing. All the good you do in this world, or the bad doesn't matter. You end up the same way anyways. Whether you're Hitler, Joseph Fritzl etc or a caring charity worker, the end result is the same. On topic, if you believe in God then surely only he is thr final arbiter in judging forgiveness and mercy. Only God knows best. Oh and ibtl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purity14 Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 Dude what the heck? lol ok another funky late night post, hate jesus? i just dont belive him, his mother and father...what are their names again? I just think they were to clever and came up with that story and got everyone including their own son, which in the end, took his life, why do i say that? because lies only end up leading to one outcome...bad, negative etc etc, so my mind sees that story as a lie...dont hate me;) Jesus died (temporarily) for our sins, I wouldnt consider that a laughing matter. I would also advice you to reconsdier, we wouldnt want you to end up eating your own children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a98pmalcolm Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 If there is no God, our life, feelings, emotions, children, everything ie negligible. They mean nothing. All the good you do in this world, or the bad doesn't matter. You end up the same way anyways. Whether you're Hitler, Joseph Fritzl etc or a caring charity worker, the end result is the same. On topic, if you believe in God then surely only he is thr final arbiter in judging forgiveness and mercy. Only God knows best. Oh and ibtl. Alot of feelings we have are becuase we grew up beliving in them! A cow gets scared if i run to it... doesnt mean the cow god created that feeling... Love is a feeling i belive that most created by us as a sociaty, as we get older we think we understand it so we belive it more to happen, thats y as todlers we dont run around falling in love... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purity14 Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 Alot of feelings we have are becuase we grew up beliving in them! A cow gets scared if i run to it... doesnt mean the cow god created that feeling... Love is a feeling i belive that most created by us as a sociaty, as we get older we think we understand it so we belive it more to happen, thats y as todlers we arnt falling in love with other kids... Firstly, who the hell is the Cow God, I thought it was Hindu's that believed in that, not the Cows themselves? Secondly Love was created by God, The Bible is full of love, and it tells us so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evinX Posted July 19, 2010 Author Share Posted July 19, 2010 Jesus died (temporarily) for our sins, I wouldnt consider that a laughing matter. I would also advice you to reconsdier, we wouldnt want you to end up eating your own children. Mate, i wasnt laughing at someone dying, i was laughing at your random question, why do i hate jesus, becuase i didnt say that:blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septic Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 Malc, I'm not arguing about who created feelings. I'm critiquing the requisite value of them from an atheist perspective because from the latter view, they are merely a byproduct of physical reactions in the brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axle Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 evinX i hope you realise what you've started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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