Inception

[Matt H]

I'm almost in a lucid dream

 

R.E.M then?

[ivan]

Watch the film again

 

He has a wedding ring on in all dreams, and in real life scenes, he does not.

 

Ah, I might just have to do that.

[Matt H]

I've just done a search to find out about what other people think about the holes in the film, and there is an unreal amount of blogs and sites listing explanations - I'll use that term shortly.

 

Here's one of them, this list is long.......

 

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Inception-Explained-Unraveling-The-Dream-Within-The-Dream-19615.html

[martini]

The main problem is, that existence cannot be proven.

 

The entire film might have been a dream...

 

If Leo's character wanted to believe the end was real, he could have subconsciously 'willed' his totem to have fallen over.

[Septic]

I think that if a movie can evoke so many profound discussions then it is a testament to the story telling prowess of its creator.

 

The fact that for the first time ever, I've been to the cinema where no body was being loud but completely captivated speaks volumes about the movie.

[Matt H]

I think that if a movie can evoke so many profound discussions then it is a testament to the story telling prowess of its creator.

 

I fail to see how dicussion about the holes in a movie makes that story great. That's pretty much what we're doing here. The only real topic of 'profound' discussion is the ending. I didn't recall questioning the quality of the story when it came to the matrix, just the discussion of the idea.

 

The fact that for the first time ever, I've been to the cinema where no body was being loud but completely captivated speaks volumes about the movie.

 

Well you weren't in the same cinema as me then, that's for sure. Because you happened to have been lucky enough to watch a film in the company of respectful people, again, is not testiment to the quality of a film - IMO of course.

[Matt H]

Anway, I'm off to get rowdy, have a good weekend all.

[Purity14]

The bit i found interesting was that they grew old together in limbo.

To exit limbo they killed themselves on a train track to come back to reality.

Since they were so old, and had wrinkles whilst walking around... can someone explain the laying the head down on the track scene.

[ivan]

I fail to see how dicussion about the holes in a movie makes that story great. That's pretty much what we're doing here.

No, that's pretty much what you're doing here. Most of the rest of us think it was a great film.

[RedM]

We went to see it today. Absoultely enthralling and we now have brain-ache.

 

We can't wait to watch it again and again on DVD. We're of the opinion that none of the film was set outside of a dream.

[R Black]

We went to see it today. Absoultely enthralling and we now have brain-ache.

 

We can't wait to watch it again and again on DVD. We're of the opinion that none of the film was set outside of a dream.

 

Early in the film, Michael Caine (the father in law) says to Cobb come back to reality.

I dont think anyone but the writer can give a definative as to whether the film is all a dream or not.

From what i read & in my own opinion, unlike Matt H, i think the amount of discussion here proves this film is great & hence emotive.

[martini]

From what i read & in my own opinion, unlike Matt H, i think the amount of discussion here proves this film is great & hence emotive.

 

Matt_H is just a dream.

[RedM]

I've been reading an interview with one of the costume designers on the film.

 

***SPOILERS BELOW***

 

The kids at the end are dressed differently to the scenes from his dreams/memories. They are also slightly bigger and played by different actors. I reckon this implies that the finale is him back in the real world.

[Septic]

*SPOILER ALERT*

 

One thing I want to know is, you know the rich kid who they wanted to plan Inception in? At the end of the film when he wakes up, will he be aware that the idea that his father actually loved him was true or false?

 

One thing I love about this movie is that the main protagonists are actually 'bad guys' in the traditional sense and yet we support them as if the opposite were true. I think that's another great achievement of this movie.

[Matt H]

No, that's pretty much what you're doing here. Most of the rest of us think it was a great film.

 

You're missing two points. The thread was dead until I revived it and I that's whats been going on. If it turns around to discussion about various interesting points (that weren't holes), then perhaps then Septic will be right. And secondly, I did think it was a great film, i just didn't think it was outstanding as there were too many holes in the story.

 

*SPOILER ALERT*

 

One thing I want to know is, you know the rich kid who they wanted to plan Inception in? At the end of the film when he wakes up, will he be aware that the idea that his father actually loved him was true or false?

 

Wasn't that the whole point? At the beginning of the film, Cobb states that the most infectious thing was an idea. The whole point of inception was that they were to plant that idea deep into his head so he would believe it when he woke up. If he didn't then he would hardly go on to seperate the company out.

[martini]

You're missing two points. The thread was dead until I revived it and I that's whats been going on.

 

This place would be dead without you

 

I waited until I saw the film before opening the thread...

[AndrewOW]

You're missing two points. The thread was dead until I revived it and I that's whats been going on. If it turns around to discussion about various interesting points (that weren't holes), then perhaps then Septic will be right. And secondly, I did think it was a great film, i just didn't think it was outstanding as there were too many holes in the story.

 

This place would be dead without you

 

I waited until I saw the film before opening the thread...

 

 

Just copying him in for you, and the thread was not dead. Far from it

[martini]

Just copying him in for you, and the thread was not dead. Far from it

 

You don't need to copy me in, it's his loss

[Matt H]

Looks at the dates :clowns:

 

Big gap before I posted up about it.

[martini]

Looks at the dates :clowns:

 

I did.

 

I wouldn't say that you revived it... I was going to post in here and discuss things with Septic once I had seen the film.

 

Who cares anyway? It's quite an arrogant thing of you to say.

[Septic]

Ah yeah good point. What a silly question in hindsight.

 

Watched Shutter Island last night and its kinda similar in one sense. It was a good watch

[Matt H]

Watched Shutter Island last night and its kinda similar in one sense. It was a good watch

 

Yeah, that was a cracking film. Kinda stuck in his own little 'dream world'.

[martini]

Watched Shutter Island last night and its kinda similar in one sense. It was a good watch

 

Also a good film.

 

It's re-enforcing my statement that Leonardo Dicaprio is one of the best actors around at the moment.

 

I've always thought so though - I can't think of a film in which he's acted poorly. I loathe Titanic, but you couldn't say he acted badly in it.

 

Regarding Inception; who's to say what we are currently experiencing right now isn't a dream? Can we prove that Matt_H isn't just a figure of our imagination? What is reality?

 

The whole idea that you can believe what you want to believe due to your subconscious, but be unaware of it, means that even if the film maker had intended the end to be real, it's a paradox.

[Septic]

Also a good film.

 

It's re-enforcing my statement that Leonardo Dicaprio is one of the best actors around at the moment.

 

I've always thought so though - I can't think of a film in which he's acted poorly. I loathe Titanic, but you couldn't say he acted badly in it.

 

Regarding Inception; who's to say what we are currently experiencing right now isn't a dream? Can we prove that Matt_H isn't just a figure of our imagination? What is reality?

 

The whole idea that you can believe what you want to believe due to your subconscious, but be unaware of it, means that even if the film maker had intended the end to be real, it's a paradox.

 

Yeah I'm not that concerned with the ending on the question of whether it was real or a dream. And martini, i think you're right about the question of reality that this movie raises.

 

However, Nolan, from the outset, wanted to make a movie on dreams themselvses. In its early state, before the plot details really materliased, the movie was just supposed to be about people who steal dreams.

 

What really impressed me about the movie were things such as everyone's personal reality checking objects (forgot the name) like the spinning top, the multi--layered dream sequences and how they all interlinked; which then complimented the amazing action sequences such as the elevator scene (made the Matrix look draconian) and subtle things like illusion of the staircase.

 

You cannot deny the movie for its brilliance surely.

[martini]

Loved the film.

 

A film that has you talking about it days or weeks after the initial watch has something very special.

 

Septic - they're called Totems