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Not really, because a marmite flick would be when you either hate it or don't. People just tend to fall asleep because I don't understand it so they don't really have a right to say whether the film was great or not. They just need to watch it again! :)

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Haha yeah rice. It was too easy.

 

I've just come back from watching this movie and all I have to say is Nolan is a genius. I rated the Dark knight as my best movie of all time and this just trumped it easily. His style just appeals to me so well. This.movie is a work of art. It's so dream like. Watch it ;)

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I watched it last night and I was expecting to get blown away - I didn't.

 

It was a good film, a very good film infact, but it was far from exceptional. I can't understand how this has be coined as one of the best, if not the best, film this year.

 

The amount of holes in the story was unacceptable. Some of it was boring. How many times do the bad guys need to shoot a van on a bridge full of people asleep and a guy with no gun and miss I don't know.

 

I like Leo, but I didn't think his performance was up to that much in this film, not when you watch the way he portrays his character in Shutter Island. Ellen page was a snore too. I did think Joseph Gordon-Levitt was good and I thought Tom hardy was awesome.

 

Then again, everyone thought the Dark Knight was brilliant, whereas I didn't think it touched Batman Begins by a mile.

 

I loved the idea of a dream within a dream however, and the ending for me was superb, if not for the final scene possibly being a little uneccessary.

 

I've seen much better films this year than Inception - quite a few infact.

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Then again, everyone thought the Dark Knight was brilliant, whereas I didn't think it touched Batman Begins by a mile.

 

Totally agree. Everyone raved about Dark Knight but I thought Batman Begins was wayyyyy better. It was a lot darker and was almost like three films in one.

 

I was genuinely scared of the original Joker but because Dark Knight was appealling to the masses and a 12 rating it didn't have the same sense of danger (ie when he kills someone it cut away from it).

 

I liked Inception, I was thinking about it for a few days after trying to answer loads of questions that it left with me. Leo is still pretty shoddy, or at least he is in this.

 

The trouble with the dream in a dream/reality thing, it could be argued that the scenes which are frustrating (ie the shooting and missing/car falling off bridge) are dreams and therefore carry none of the same dimentions as reality. Although that's a bit of a cop out.

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The trouble with the dream in a dream/reality thing, it could be argued that the scenes which are frustrating (ie the shooting and missing/car falling off bridge) are dreams and therefore carry none of the same dimentions as reality. Although that's a bit of a cop out.

 

I just think they changed the rules to suite the scene. When Eames said 'you mustn’t be afraid to dream a little bigger darling' and pulls out a grenade launcher! So where did that come from? Did he dream it up or was it always part of the arsenal? If it just magically appeared from thought or something, why couldn't that happen elsewhere?

 

And the big deal that was made about limbo being the worst thing ever and your brain would turn to mush, but Leo then pulls out Saito after like 50 years and he has no problems.

 

The setting up of the kicks too. Didn't Arthur have like 2 mins to set up the kick when the van was falling? Did a bloody lot within that time frame! I actual shook my head when he wired them all together.. oh and don't get me started on the process of the 'kick', one minute being something that happens and you wake, the next it was controllable and you choice to wake. Hitting a bridge is a good enough kick, but a van toppling down a hill is just an alteration to the physics of the level below... Ooops, I got started. Just too many holes; it was frustrating.

 

I still think the original Batman is one of the best from the series.

 

Original as in Jack Nic as the Joker? Indeed, he played that role much better than Heath's incarnation - altough that was a cracking performance in its own right.

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My girlfriend and I watched this back to back with Toy Story 3 on saturday, and were thoroughly enthralled by both films.

 

I was expecting the film to be a long and dragged out, but it wasn't, and totally understandable too.

 

I'd like to watch them both again, but not on the same day. ;)

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And the big talk about limbo being the worsest thing ever and your brain would turn to mush, but Leo pulls out Saito after like 50 years and there's no probs.

 

But did he though...being that we don't know if the end was reality or not...

 

The setting up of the kicks too. Didn't Arthur have like 2 mins to kick set up the kick when the van was falling? Didn't a bloody lot within that time frame. I actual shook my head when he wired them all together.. oh and don't get me started on the process of the 'kick', one minute being something that happens and you wake, the next it was controllable whether you wake. Oh and hitting a bridge is a good enough kick, but a van toppling down a hill is just an alteration to the physics of the level below... Ooops, I got started. Just too many holes it was frustrating..

 

Again, could be down to the fact that time in dreams is unlike time in reality. Also the 'kick' was a kick within a kick, again all a bit confused really.

 

 

Original as in Jack Nic as the Joker? Indeed, he played that role much better than Heath's incarnation - altough that was a cracking performance in its own right.

 

Yeah Jack Nicolson. The bit where Jerry Hall turns round after he's given her a 'joker' smile, I had nightmares about that for months. In fact, I still do. :scared:

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I just think they changed the rules to suite the scene. When Eames said 'you mustn’t be afraid to dream a little bigger darling' and pulls out a grenade launcher! So where did that come from? Did he dream it up or was it always part of the arsenal? If it just magically appeared from thought or something, why couldn't that happen elsewhere?

 

And the big deal that was made about limbo being the worst thing ever and your brain would turn to mush, but Leo then pulls out Saito after like 50 years and he has no problems.

 

The setting up of the kicks too. Didn't Arthur have like 2 mins to set up the kick when the van was falling? Did a bloody lot within that time frame! I actual shook my head when he wired them all together.. oh and don't get me started on the process of the 'kick', one minute being something that happens and you wake, the next it was controllable and you choice to wake. Hitting a bridge is a good enough kick, but a van toppling down a hill is just an alteration to the physics of the level below... Ooops, I got started. Just too many holes; it was frustrating.

 

What you say occurred to me too, but then it is only a film, and I'm sure getting everything 'right' would've made things very complicated IMO.

 

I think you're supposed to watch as though you're in a dream state too, and kinda gloss over most of the finer details. I thought it was great anyway. :)

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But did he though...being that we don't know if the end was reality or not:

 

True, but we've got to plant some rules down in the film, even if the whole thing was a dream. Saying the rules can be disregarded total because the entire film would be a dream makes a mockery of what the film was supposed to be in my opinion (i.e an inteligent flick)

 

Again, could be down to the fact that time in dreams is unlike time in reality. Also the 'kick' was a kick within a kick, again all a bit confused really:

 

Yeah, the time multipies exponetially down each level, but they worked it out that he 2mins to get the kick set up in the hotel and then they had 16mins in the snow 'hospital' level (from memory).

 

Yeah Jack Nicolson. The bit where Jerry Hall turns round after he's given her a 'joker' smile, I had nightmares about that for months. In fact, I still do. :scared:

 

haha, could be something do with with the fact that you were very young in 1989. :D

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What you say occurred to me too, but then it is only a film, and I'm sure getting everything 'right' would've made things very complicated IMO.

 

I think you're supposed to watch as though you're in a dream state too, and kinda gloss over most of the finer details. I thought it was great anyway. :)

 

I totally agree, you have to be willing to let things slide, but my problem is that if a film is heralded as something of a masterpiece, I shouldn't be left feeling like there's so many holes in it. If everyone said to me before I went to see it, that it's a good film but it's not masterpiece, I wouldn't be saying any of this, as I would have just excepted it.

 

I quess I'm just having a hard time tyring to work out why so many people think it's 'the best film ever made'.

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I totally agree, you have to be willing to let things slide, but my problem is that if a film is heralded as something of a masterpiece, I shouldn't be left feeling like there's so many holes in it. If everyone said to me before I went to see it, that it's a good film but it's not masterpiece, I wouldn't be saying any of this, as I would have just excepted it.

 

I quess I'm just having a hard time tyring to work out why so many people think it's 'the best film ever made'.

 

 

Third best, at the moment (according to IMDB, anyway). ;)

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True, but we've got to plant some rules down in the film, even if the whole thing was a dream. Saying the rules can be disregarded total because the entire film would be a dream makes a mockery of what the film was supposed to be in my opinion (i.e an inteligent flick)

 

IMO it is intelligent to get people talking about it, so it's already got a mark for that. I agree they can't pass it off as all dream and therefore no definition but it was left on a cliff hanger so who knows what someone would be like after years of being in limbo - maybe they would be a cabbage. In fact we know that the wife (forget her name) was mad because she'd been in limbo all that time - so long she didn't know what was reality.

 

 

Yeah, the time multipies exponetially down each level, but they worked it out that he 2mins to get the kick set up in the hotel and then they had 16mins in the snow 'hospital' level (from memory).

 

I agree the two minutes seemed to go very very slowly, however I still think that was relative.

 

I also agree with the grenade thing you said earlier - if that was the case they could just 'makeup' anything to suit their purpose. But maybe they were part of a back up plan for a second wave of failure.

 

haha, could be something do with with the fact that you were very young in 1989. :D

I was 9. :D
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Third best, at the moment (according to IMDB, anyway). ;)

 

Exactly. Third best film ever made :blink:

 

IMO it is intelligent to get people talking about it, so it's already got a mark for that. I agree they can't pass it off as all dream and therefore no definition but it was left on a cliff hanger so who knows what someone would be like after years of being in limbo - maybe they would be a cabbage. In fact we know that the wife (forget her name) was mad because she'd been in limbo all that time - so long she didn't know what was reality.

 

You're totally right bout the intelligence of it actually, they've managed to make a distinctly 'good' film and make everyone believe it was the best thing ever...Genius! Ironically, it's like they've performed inception on every cinema goer by inserting the idea it was amazing into everyone's mind!!! :D

 

I thought the reason she was 'mad' wasn't because of the time spent in limbo, but because Cobb performed an 'inception' on here, making her believe that limbo wasn't real after she started to believe limbo was real. And because 'there's nothing more potent that an idea' she also believed that when she woke up from limbo and got back to reality - and therefore killed herself.

 

I was 9. :D

 

I was 5! Ahh, what it would be like to be 5 again.

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