Guest joz8968 Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 (edited) No worries. I don't hold out much hope. The only legacy gauge's user manual available is for the 3-button ones, which HKS kindly forwded me in PDF form. But the the procedure is different for my 2-button one. Arrrrh. Edited June 30, 2010 by joz8968 (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest joz8968 Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 A tenner for membership is pittance for the wealth of information that's on this site. Indeed. Is that lifetime, or annually? Whatever, stonking value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 Ahhhh, a cap on posts for non-subscribers. How many exactly? Might be 11. Indeed. Is that lifetime, or annually? Whatever, stonking value. £10 a year, or £30 for lifetime IIRC (although if you pay a years subs for 3 years you get upgraded to lifetime anyway, like interest free credit). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest joz8968 Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 ...or £30 for lifetime IIRC (although if you pay a years subs for 3 years you get upgraded to lifetime anyway, like interest free credit). How refreshing, that you don't get "penalised" for not being able/wanting to pay in full up front. DVLA tax disc anyone....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonytotheB Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 40 posts and that's it. Membership is due. Is anyone else feeling like NOT helping this guy out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 Is anyone else feeling like NOT helping this guy out? Even if he does pay the membership you mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest joz8968 Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 (edited) Blimey! Bit harsh. All I wanted was some advice re. a gauge - and I'm being lambasted for not paying! It's not my "fault" that I'm still allowed to make posts in this particular forum, FOC. If that's your collective attitude on this board, then goodbye people - I really won't lose any sleep over it. Edited June 30, 2010 by joz8968 (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 Jeez he was a tetchy one wasn't he!! Didn't he see the smilies! Wouldn't last long on here anyway with (lack of) sense of humour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest joz8968 Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 (edited) 40 posts and that's it. Membership is due. Is anyone else feeling like NOT helping this guy out? Yeah right, the above post is really welcoming isn't it. Edited June 30, 2010 by joz8968 (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest amy-v17 Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 To be fair £10 is not a lot in the grand scheme of things, there is a reason you have to pay the membership, you get to make a few posts before they ask you to pay so that you can see whether the forum is going to be of use to you. Your attitude is not going to make people want to help you and members are not going to welcome you with open arms when you've made it very clear you're only here to find the answer to your problem then you're going to f off until you have another issue which no doubt you would post in your noobs thread to avoid paying the membership fee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest joz8968 Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 Sure why not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attero Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 Everyones taking everything in the wrong context. Leave the poor guy alone. As for what TonytotheB said, it could be read like, "let's not help this guy out because it's funny" or "you guys are useless at helping this poor soul". No offense was to be taken either way I'm sure. We just are humorous community but hit a bit too hard on the newbies for a first chat. What people are trying to say though is that membership is worthit. Members here don't tend to answer to newbies questions because they think that's it and never hear of them again. Where as we all like to hear of people again and keep the community thriving. You may or may not find an answer either way but you'll get that anywhere you go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest joz8968 Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 (edited) At last, a sensible posting. Bottom line: all I was looking for was a quick answer to a question (if people can't help with this particular Q I have no problem with that, obviously). But it was the subsequent, almost snide-like jibes about the membership thing I find unpalettable [sic]. IMHO, it simply wasn't called for - esp. after all the initial negative comments for my initial "Hi" post. I mean, which way do you want it?! After all, if YOU were desperate for an answer on something, and you happened upon a resource via an online forum, wouldn't you too try to glean said answer asap (and for free, if possible)? I can't believe people seem to find this "wrong", or underhand practice. People get too precious about "their little community" when it comes to online forums IMHO. Just because I'm a "newbie" to THIS forum, doesn't mean to say that I'm "green" on how forums work, etc. It's almost like you're all saying: "Hey listen up newbie, you MUST pay us estb. members some respect first, before we even THINK of helping you..." I can't quite believe it! Edited June 30, 2010 by joz8968 (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 "Hey listen up newbie, you MUST pay us estb. members some respect first, before we even THINK of helping you..." Well, yeah. I reckon that should be on the front page. The youth of today... no respect... This forum's going downhill, etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 TBH you sounded to me (ignoring the fact that the written word doesn't convey emotion at all) like you were a bit 'high and mighty' and expected us to answer your questions 'just because' and that you somehow didn't need to pay like the rest of us. I'm guessing others got the same impression, hence the attack of 'snidey' comments and sarcastic remarks. In fact, you still sound a little like that, as if the fact that you've been about a bit on social sites means you can circumvent the unwritten rule that n00bies don't get the same respect as long termers. I'm sorry you don't like that unwritten rule, many have argued about it in the past but unfortunately it IS there; the higher your post count the more well known you are by the community and therefore people know how much they can (dis)trust you. Having said all that, information shouldn't be witheld just for the sake of it, and had I known the answer to your question I would have answered. I'm guessing not many 'regulars' on here know the answer either so we poked a bit of fun at you instead. I was sort of hoping you would agree to pay the £10 and get involved, post some more, bump your technical thread until you got a response and we'd all be happy, instead you still seem to be fighting. We honestly don't want newbies to up and leave after 40 posts, but I'm sure you know the numerous reasons why a fee is charged. If you stick around and get involved in some more stuff you'll see how good the forum is, and probably understand why we're being like we are in this thread! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest joz8968 Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 Well, yeah. I reckon that should be on the front page. The youth of today... no respect... This forum's going downhill, etc... Youth? I'm 41. Thanks for not reading the rest of my post and just taking that sentence out of context. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 Youth? I'm 41. Thanks for not reading the rest of my post and just taking that sentence out of context. Seriously? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest joz8968 Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 TBH you sounded to me (ignoring the fact that the written word doesn't convey emotion at all) like you were a bit 'high and mighty' and expected us to answer your questions 'just because' and that you somehow didn't need to pay like the rest of us. I'm guessing others got the same impression, hence the attack of 'snidey' comments and sarcastic remarks. In fact, you still sound a little like that, as if the fact that you've been about a bit on social sites means you can circumvent the unwritten rule that n00bies don't get the same respect as long termers. I'm sorry you don't like that unwritten rule, many have argued about it in the past but unfortunately it IS there; the higher your post count the more well known you are by the community and therefore people know how much they can (dis)trust you... I'm sorry you have that impression of me - trust me I am not "high and mighty". Far from it. It's just the frustration - all I wanted was an answer, not snidey comments. Isn't that what online tech forums are about? And I do understand about the heirarchy thing, just that I find it frustrating that that seems to take precedent over any forthcoming "help"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 You're not American are you? You seem to be lacking a sense of irony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest joz8968 Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 (edited) Post #41 was aimed at "Animal" and I was referring him to my previous post #38. It was unfortunate that tbourner posted whilst I was composing, etc... Edited June 30, 2010 by joz8968 (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attero Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 But it was the subsequent, almost snide-like jibes about the membership thing I find unpalettable [sic]. IMHO, it simply wasn't called for - esp. after all the initial negative comments for my initial "Hi" post. I mean, which way do you want it?! People just found your post funny. It's probably (actually no... IS) the most simple introduction thread to exist. Forums like ours would expect a little about yourself and/or your car at least for the first thread. You even failed to ask your question in the first post. Don't take it personally. We just chuckled. After all, if YOU were desperate for an answer on something, and you happened upon a resource via an online forum, wouldn't you too try to glean said answer asap (and for free, if possible)? I can't believe people seem to find this "wrong", or underhand practice. If we did that, we would fail as a proper car club. Everyone would be joining up for free advice and leave. It's like walking into the a shop and saying, "hey! I'm new to this area, so I want all your carrots and potatoes for free". They would give out free samples, but they aren't a supermarket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest joz8968 Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 (edited) FCS, just forget it. I've more than explained myself in plain English in post #38. It's not hard to grasp - it really isn't. I was after a simple answer, not to make life long "cyber friends".... Jeeeez. It's like some ruddy dodgy "Eyes Wide Shut" initiation ceremony, or something... Edited June 30, 2010 by joz8968 (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 Post #41 was aimed at "Animal" and I was referring him to my previous post #38. It was unfortunate that tbourner posted whilst I was composing, etc... I know, but as he said in post #44 you didn't seem to get his joke, hence I was posting that you didn't notice the smilies in his post and didn't understand the jokes he was making. He wasn't serious in any part of his post AFAICT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest joz8968 Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 ...It's like walking into the a shop and saying, "hey! I'm new to this area, so I want all your carrots and potatoes for free". They would give out free samples, but they aren't a supermarket. It not really though, is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest joz8968 Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 (edited) Thing is, even if I don't join and bugger off, what have you actually lost? (Easy now). Why be so "precious" about it all? At the end of the day you would have made someone happy and grateful (if someone knew the answer, of course), and lost nothing in return. As it stands, you're doing your level best just to get a rise/frustrate/antagonise a potential member. I don't get it, I really don't (...4 pages in and all!) Edited June 30, 2010 by joz8968 (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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