Tuesday's budget

[caseys]

Well, I hope this doesn't all get passionate but I thought I'd ask what you'd all a) like to see in the budget, b) expect to see in the budget?

 

Just wondering how it's going to affect day to day life and the mid-long term. This year being a father, a single income family and looking to buy a house I must admit it's tough times for me in a period of austerity but I am hoping for :

 

1) Raise the threshold on the 10% income tax band

 

2) Scrap all stupid Government quangos

 

3) Raise duty on luxury goods / alcohol / cigarettes etc

 

4) Sort out the benefit system - means test child allowance etc, scrap child allowance for more than 2 kids or such - you want kids, you pay for them.

 

5) Sort out Capital Gains Tax, maybe not for businesses but if there are many owning 2-3 properties they're not exactly poor and so could be taxed accordingly. Would be actually interested to know how much of a percentage of the population own more than one property.

 

6) Scrap NI contributions and just have one plain simple to understand income tax rule

 

7) Raise VAT on items that are only unnecessary

 

8) Scrap VAT on services, i.e help trade within our own country - i.e I don't want to have to pay £600 for a boiler, £400 labour and then £175 for FA . It'd help stop us relying on the huge financial services sector in this country. Something needs to kickstart our manufacturing in this country and also help small businesses.

 

9) Get rid of stupid paperwork and such in the forces. Less plastic-paddys

 

10) Raise stamp duty, make more affordable housing as people under 30 and their children really are screwed to ever get on the housing market currently. I think I'm in a bad situation but I have no idea how my kids are going to get on without inheritance or a massive helping hand.

 

Apologies if I've been a bit ranty or extreme on here, lots of work, no sleep and a family and future to think of.

 

What do I expect?

 

Not a lot... bar more taxes and seeing zero benefit from it

 

Discuss if you dare.

[Wez]

Stop foreign aid until we have sorted ourseleves out.

 

Stop paying billions into Europe to help others

[MaveriK]

Stop foreign aid until we have sorted ourseleves out.

 

Stop paying billions into Europe to help others

 

Spot on Sir

[Swampy442]

9) Get rid of stupid paperwork and such in the forces. Less plastic-paddys

 

Can you explain that point? I dont understand. The benefit system, that needs a complete overhaul, as much to eliminate the spongers/breeders as anything else. As for what I want/expect, my mind is open as whatever way you look our collective pants are gonna be pulled down harshly and quickly.

[Porky1978]

Stop foreign aid until we have sorted ourseleves out.

 

Stop paying billions into Europe to help others

 

[fizzle]

lower tax on fuel, no benefits for child machines (max 2 kids)

[caseys]

Stop foreign aid until we have sorted ourseleves out.

 

Stop paying billions into Europe to help others

 

I agree with the foreign aid for everythin bar disasters. I'd like to see it directed to help the homeless and the impoverished we have in this country.

 

The latter point I don't know enough info. I know that we get a hefty farming subsidy that the French always complain about but I honestly don't know what Europe costs us, ignorance is no excuse I know.

 

 

Can you explain that point? I dont understand. The benefit system, that needs a complete overhaul, as much to eliminate the spongers/breeders as anything else. As for what I want/expect, my mind is open as whatever way you look our collective pants are gonna be pulled down harshly and quickly.

 

I'd just like to see an analysis on how much of the forces do front line jobs, long term investigations etc and what jobs have been created probably in the last 15 years that are probably just middlemen jobs which could be cut out (no just applicable to forces, many large companies I think have this but many have been cut in the recession where as public sector is harder to make redundancies without a huge fuss kicked up). I'm just for sensible pragmatic spending in the police, nhs and such where some measurable value can be shown for the money spent. Don't get me wring, I'm not anti police.

 

Just like that set of robots that have been set up in that Scottish hospital, labour saving yes. Huge initial cost? I bet. Fat cat maintenance contract for it? I bet so too. Less manpower required?from what I saw they said no one was made redundant just redeployed.

[Al Massey]

3) Raise duty on luxury goods / alcohol / cigarettes etc

 

Why?whats your reasons for wanting this?

It wont accomplish anything

 

4) Sort out the benefit system - means test child allowance etc, scrap child allowance for more than 2 kids or such - you want kids, you pay for them.

 

That was said on the radio so hopefully will come in

 

7) Raise VAT on items that are only unnecessary

 

How and why?and like what?

 

9) Get rid of stupid paperwork and such in the forces. Less plastic-paddys

 

??

 

I'd just like to see an analysis on how much of the forces do front line jobs, long term investigations etc and what jobs have been created probably in the last 15 years that are probably just middlemen jobs which could be cut out (no just applicable to forces, many large companies I think have this but many have been cut in the recession where as public sector is harder to make redundancies without a huge fuss kicked up). I'm just for sensible pragmatic spending in the police, nhs and such where some measurable value can be shown for the money spent. Don't get me wring, I'm not anti police.

 

To do front line jobs properly you need people in the rear doing the other work.

 

Without either nothing will work

[Swampy442]

Why?whats your reasons for wanting this?

It wont accomplish anything

 

But its easy tax isnt it? Everyone will pay it, especially the smokers.

 

As for the forces, being a long time member of the RAF Ive seen it cut from 105,000 when I joined to the 40,000 it is now, theres not much more fat to trim.

[Wez]

It would be nice to find out what our euro membership costs, it's in the billions.

[Attero]

- Remove fuel duty and increase tax on a spreadable level (making a minimalistic change to all products and services but effective).

 

- Raise income tax threshold.

 

- Abolish all foreign aid. We have Charities for foreign aid, not our tax.

 

- Abolish government spending on luxories (like the recently reported £17k spent on wine) and high salaries.

[caseys]

Why?whats your reasons for wanting this?

It wont accomplish anything

it'd hopeully raise more taxes or stop more alcohol abuse, smoking related diseases etc. I'm all for taxes like vat or duty raised on items that are not essential for every day living like food, clothing etc. I think society has got a little soft with our over consumption and availabilty of cheap luxury items and i think many of us have taken such things like cheap booze and junk food etc as staple items in society. I'm all for the luxuries I buy to be a little more expensive as that's what they are in my life, luxuries. I doubt anyone came to bad with a bit of spartan-esq living.

 

To do front line jobs properly you need people in the rear doing the other work.

 

Without either nothing will work

 

oh I agree, I'd just like to see an indendant analysis done through such forces so we the public can see that our money is being spent efficiently and effectivly. I'm not saying a good job isn't being done already, but hoping for greater efficiency. Trust me organisations like the nhs are full of heroes and people full of heart and compassion and I hope it is intensely scrutinised.

[The Raven]

Tax the fn lot of you.

 

Make everyone have loft and cavity wall done.

 

Will do me

[tooquicktostop]

Bottom line is they have been telling us pain is coming for weeks, this is to prepare us for a real crunch budget, it will be painful to us all

 

I hope they dont go after high earners again, it is just unfair to punish success

 

I expect to see VAT rise, fuel duty to rise, luxury items to rise and spending to decrease dramatically

[The Raven]

 

I hope they dont go after high earners again, it is just unfair to punish success

 

 

 

But then who will pay for the chavs to buy beer, and a sky sports package!

[Blackie]

i think the main thing i would like to see is benefit cuts, too many people take the pee with this now, Its like a career choice for most. My brother cant be arsed getting a job as he will be £10 a week worse off working.

[nevins]

its all very well producing a killer budget but in the end of the day I bet it does not effect the people deciding it. They all have plenty of cash and are suited to their lives, but they don't think twice about the average person working their balls off to better their lives only to be kicked in the nuts at a later date. If you ask me if youj earn a good wage its yours to keep.

 

They tax us on buying a car , maintaining it, running it and insuring it. Next they will be bringing in a tax for sitting in it. I think its all a load of crap. Why should we have to deal with this, just for the poxy goverment to give all of THIS countries hard earnd cash away. The worst thing ever is to become part of the EU.

 

This country Great Britain, is great no more. The countries we owned the wealth has all gone. We are even going to loose the one thing that seperates us from everyone else. The euros coming and the pounds going as soon as that goes say farewell to great britain as we will only be britain and thats probably if the EU does not take that aswell.

 

Well thats my rant from what I see of it, so feel free to pick holes in it, as I couldn't care, I'm that fed up with this country.

[tooquicktostop]

its all very well producing a killer budget but in the end of the day I bet it does not effect the people deciding it. They all have plenty of cash and are suited to their lives, but they don't think twice about the average person working their balls off to better their lives only to be kicked in the nuts at a later date. If you ask me if youj earn a good wage its yours to keep.

 

They tax us on buying a car , maintaining it, running it and insuring it. Next they will be bringing in a tax for sitting in it. I think its all a load of crap. Why should we have to deal with this, just for the poxy goverment to give all of THIS countries hard earnd cash away. The worst thing ever is to become part of the EU.

 

This country Great Britain, is great no more. The countries we owned the wealth has all gone. We are even going to loose the one thing that seperates us from everyone else. The euros coming and the pounds going as soon as that goes say farewell to great britain as we will only be britain and thats probably if the EU does not take that aswell.

 

Well thats my rant from what I see of it, so feel free to pick holes in it, as I couldn't care, I'm that fed up with this country.

 

 

The UK will not become a Euro currency country any time soon dont worry about that, if Germany could pull of that now they would

[nevins]

not only the euro, the fact that we just give cash away to the eu when we need it ourselves, how are we suppose to help others when they will be better off than us, at the rate we are going.

[Westcoaster]

How about squeezing till the pips squeak the idiots that started the whole thing off, the bankers and stockbrokers.

 

Why are we paying the price for the stupidity and greed of a few? I don't see the bankers taking a big cut in bonuses.

 

As for punishing the successful, the wealthiest tax payers pay significantly less tax as a proportion of their income, compared to the lowest tax payers. Many have accountants that save them paying any tax at all.

 

Money saving schemes:

• Scrap the nuclear deterrent, we don't need nuke missiles to fight the Taliban!
  
• Pass a law allowing the CEO and similar to earn no more than 10 times what the lowest earns in the organisation for the public sector
  
• A 75% supertax on bonuses more than £10,000 p.a.
  
• A 75% Supertax on earnings of £500,000 or more
  

 

I work in the public sector and have had 2 years of below inflation pay awards and am currently on a pay freeze, there are many in a similar position to myself. It sickens we to the core to know that I, and others like me, are paying the price for the stupidity of the upmarket 'bookies' that run our financial sector.

[tooquicktostop]

How about squeezing till the pips squeak the idiots that started the whole thing off, the bankers and stockbrokers.

 

Why are we paying the price for the stupidity and greed of a few? I don't see the bankers taking a big cut in bonuses.

 

As for punishing the successful, the wealthiest tax payers pay significantly less tax as a proportion of their income, compared to the lowest tax payers. Many have accountants that save them paying any tax at all.

 

Money saving schemes:

• Scrap the nuclear deterrent, we don't need nuke missiles to fight the Taliban!
  
• Pass a law allowing the CEO and similar to earn no more than 10 times what the lowest earns in the organisation for the public sector
  
• A 75% supertax on bonuses more than £10,000 p.a.
  
• A 75% Supertax on earnings of £500,000 or more
  

 

I work in the public sector and have had 2 years of below inflation pay awards and am currently on a pay freeze, there are many in a similar position to myself. It sickens we to the core to know that I, and others like me, are paying the price for the stupidity of the upmarket 'bookies' that run our financial sector.

 

Sorry, cant agree

 

These "bankers" pay a huge amount of tax and have given the UK many years of success and rewards, they will always be well paid as they earn their firms so much money, end of

 

Super tax on the high earners will just drive the bankers abroad and then will will be in real trouble

 

75% is just crazy, ask yourself the same question should you earn 150K or more per year or be on a high bonus structure

 

Low income low tax I agree but middle income should see a rise IMO

[ivan]

9) Get rid of stupid paperwork and such in the forces. Less plastic-paddys

 

Can you explain that point? I dont understand. The benefit system, that needs a complete overhaul, as much to eliminate the spongers/breeders as anything else. As for what I want/expect, my mind is open as whatever way you look our collective pants are gonna be pulled down harshly and quickly.

 

I'd just like to see an analysis on how much of the forces do front line jobs, long term investigations etc and what jobs have been created probably in the last 15 years that are probably just middlemen jobs which could be cut out (no just applicable to forces, many large companies I think have this but many have been cut in the recession where as public sector is harder to make redundancies without a huge fuss kicked up). I'm just for sensible pragmatic spending in the police, nhs and such where some measurable value can be shown for the money spent. Don't get me wring, I'm not anti police.

 

The Forces have already done that with a civilianisation program a good few years ago. Many, many rear echelon jobs such as IT support, instructing etc have been turned over to either the Civil Service or contractors, thus releasing troops to the front line.

 

As an example of how successful it was - when my own IT Support job at Bovington went civi I was replaced by an EO and two AO's, thus raising the wage bill for the Garrison.

 

Not only that, but they decided my IT experience was too valuable to let go so created a Data Analyst job to keep me anyway.

[Scooter]

Until I ended up working for a housing association I had no idea of the following.........

 

"Home loss allowance" effectively a compensationary payment made to those displaced from their home. Now in respect of a housing association we are effectively talking council tenants and it's a lump sum payment to compensate for the loss of what has been their home for perhaps 20+ years or more. Now it is not this per se that to me is a problem as this sort of thing would be a possibly tramatic event for say an elderly couple or disabled person etc displaced from the village they've called home...........no what I disagree with is that it's a blanket fixed sum no matter what the circumstances.

 

Down south with land at a premium its common to redevelop areas of old social housing and relace with a higher density of new houses. We had one such development and it involved 50 old houses being demolished with 150 replacing them all on the same plot of land. The reasoning behind this beyond the increase in housing was the majority of the 50 houses were of old sectioned concrete type construction and had poor thermal efficiency and were a long term refurbushment liability.

 

So in effect, the couple of local streets were on and off a building site for a couple of years and the residents were decanted to other properties when necessary but they all ended up rehoused in the exact same area just in completely brand new houses/flats.

 

So they were not displaced from their local area, now live in a brand new house in, give or take a few yards the same location, on the exact same rent as before, with lower heating bills going forward and for this inconvenience they got £4,*** each household!

[Attero]

A kick in a teeth for all car owners...

Promises for fairer fuel prices are supposedly set to be dropped...

 

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/bargains-and-rip-offs/motoring/article.html?in_article_id=506669&in_page_id=53949&ct=5

 

Thank the government for once again, not sticking to their word.

[caseys]

Well it's not as bad as thought so far, interesting with the corporation tax cut and the NI changes.

 

Housing benefit cuts by the look of it too. Means tested would be good.

 

Wonder if he's holding the worst news for last