paulrenn Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 i was told 6years ago that i would start seeing stuff and hearing strange things in my life and i chose not to except it and only last year AGAIN was told the same thing by a completly different person mow i fooking beleive what they said to me Perhaps it was your English teacher, saying you would start seeing a dictionary? Maybe she is haunting you now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 I offer two options. 1) You were dreaming a very vivid dream and were unable to tell the difference between that and reality. That sort of thing happens now and again. 2)If you ARE seeing things, then you are having or have had some sort of psychotic event. In all seriousness you should seek medical help with that. Note, there is no option that involves the spirits of the dead visiting you in the night. That is just superstition or religious nonsense. Edited to say. You may find you have difficulty accepting these realities, because to do so undermines the very thing you have chosen to believe in. Good luck with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 all seriousness you should seek medical help 'nuff said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evinX Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 I offer two options. 1) You were dreaming a very vivid dream and were unable to tell the difference between that and reality. That sort of thing happens now and again. 2)If you ARE seeing things, then you are having or have had some sort of psychotic event. In all seriousness you should seek medical help with that. Note, there is no option that involves the spirits of the dead visiting you in the night. That is just superstition or religious nonsense. Yea but didnt you read the bit about him finding out who this person was later on? thats just puts all of what you said aside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 Yea but didnt you read the bit about him finding out who this person was later on? thats just puts all of what you said aside. Nonsense. He "sees" a person in the dead of night and freaks out, then nearly 2 weeks later someone shows him an old photo with conveniently attached story, and he is convinced it is the same person? Would that stand up in a court of law? I got turned over once when I was a student, in a streetlit area of town, and 2 hours later, I couldn't positively identify the man who I had come face to face with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evinX Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 See this is where the spirit world makes the man made world the smallest thing ever, you cant prove it, you can only ever know/see and beileve it, the guy said his head was tilted...forget court, how are you going to take a spirit to court? going smarty explain that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 The real danger here is that all the while people are dressing up this issue with mumbo-jumbo and superstition, he has had two separate hallucination events, and therefore should seek help in case it develops into a real mental illness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evinX Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 The real danger here is that all the while people are dressing up this issue with mumbo-jumbo and superstition, he has had two separate hallucination events, and therefore should seek help in case it develops into a real mental illness. It could lead to that, and it has. You get attacked by this thing, its goes and leaves you to put the peices together while full of fear...what do ya think the outcome will be... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrenn Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 Damo, please take Rob's advise. See a doctor. If you can, get yourself over to your mother's place (you said earlier that you visited there so I guess it is not far away). Sleep over there for a night or two. Discuss it with her. Hopefully she is not going to fill your head with nonsense. Have you been under any heavy stress lately? Sleeping normally? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 I KNOW WAT I FOOKING SAW AND IT WASNT GHOSTBUSTER WOMEN!!!!! i understand people on here just want to rip other members a new arsehole on topics like this but it takes alot to get me Damien sharpe scared and im fooking bricking it... i was told 6years ago that i would start seeing stuff and hearing strange things in my life and i chose not to except it and only last year AGAIN was told the same thing by a completly different person mow i fooking beleive what they said to me when i saw this women i physically felt that i was in harm that it just wasnt a manifestation thats why i ran out of the kitchen in to the garden shaken up to hell but thanks for the help and advice... I was told a few years ago that I would be subjected to horrific bouts of grammar and spelling. It seems to have manifested too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evinX Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 Damo, please take Rob's advise. See a doctor. If you can, get yourself over to your mother's place (you said earlier that you visited there so I guess it is not far away). Sleep over there for a night or two. Discuss it with her. Hopefully she is not going to fill your head with nonsense. Have you been under any heavy stress lately? Sleeping normally? Explaning that to a doc will put you in a mental home - its not right when your normal and this happens Going to your mums might, MIGHT make it worse for you, just keep going and see what happens, usually if you dont mess with it, youll be fine. If it gets worse, which it has, make that move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 See this is where the spirit world makes the man made world the smallest thing ever, you cant prove it, you can only ever know/see and beileve it, the guy said his head was tilted...forget court, how are you going to take a spirit to court? going smarty explain that one. Honestly! The court thing is an example of how ludicrous this is. Say you woke up in the dark and found a burglar in your room, he legs it. Two weeks later the police show you one photograph and tell you that this man is known as a housethief and operates in your area. Chances are you are going to say "That was him!" Now put that testimony in a court and watch it get demolished by the defense. you can only ever know/see and beileve it Therein lies the problem. Everything we experience is through our senses, through electrical pulses created or translated by the brain. If the brain "goes wrong" and makes us "see" something, its very hard to recognise that detached "reality" for what it is, just like if a pilot relies on his instruments and they have a fault and start telling him something different, he can end up in a very sticky situation. I don't have to prove anything, I have the last 500 years of science behind me and none of that says there is a "spirit world." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCK10 Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 Honestly! The court thing is an example of how ludicrous this is. Say you woke up in the dark and found a burglar in your room, he legs it. Two weeks later the police show you one photograph and tell you that this man is known as a housethief and operates in your area. Chances are you are going to say "That was him!" Now put that testimony in a court and watch it get demolished by the defense. Therein lies the problem. Everything we experience is through our senses, through electrical pulses created or translated by the brain. If the brain "goes wrong" and makes us "see" something, its very hard to recognise that detached "reality" for what it is, just like if a pilot relies on his instruments and they have a fault and start telling him something different, he can end up in a very sticky situation. I don't have to prove anything, I have the last 500 years of science behind me and none of that says there is a "spirit world." :yeahthat:This man speaks sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evinX Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 Honestly! The court thing is an example of how ludicrous this is. Say you woke up in the dark and found a burglar in your room, he legs it. Two weeks later the police show you one photograph and tell you that this man is known as a housethief and operates in your area. Chances are you are going to say "That was him!" Now put that testimony in a court and watch it get demolished by the defense. Therein lies the problem. Everything we experience is through our senses, through electrical pulses created or translated by the brain. If the brain "goes wrong" and makes us "see" something, its very hard to recognise that detached "reality" for what it is, just like if a pilot relies on his instruments and they have a fault and start telling him something different, he can end up in a very sticky situation. I don't have to prove anything, I have the last 500 years of science behind me and none of that says there is a "spirit world." Fair enough. I see your point, but to me in this situation its not vaild. There are things in this world science is yet to prove;) FACT. That court one, to me is a load of crappy crap. He saw a man with his HEAD TILTED, ok what the hell, back to sleep. Few days later, his UNCLE (family) cut down a dead body which was hanged. SUICIDE. Check it These things are usually family related, distant or close Suicide, most spirits are here becuase they are not at rest, died in a horiffic way. Forget court and science. Use your common sence to figure this out. Dont know why im even trying at this time of the night, nobody besides damo really cares...goodnight, lets see what you all come up with by the morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCK10 Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 Can i ask where you got all your information of the "spirit world" from, because you seem to be well informed on how to deal with it. He saw a man with his HEAD TILTED, ok what the hell, back to sleep. Few days later, his UNCLE (family) cut down a dead body which was hanged. SUICIDE. . So what your saying is Damo can actually see whats going to happen in the future? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrenn Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 Explaning that to a doc will put you in a mental home - its not right when your normal and this happens Who says he is "right"? Going to your mums might, MIGHT make it worse for you, just keep going and see what happens, usually if you dont mess with it, youll be fine. If it gets worse, which it has, make that move. This does not make any sense. Firstly you say, don't go. Then you say, If it gets worse, "make that move". Then you say it has already got worse. So should he stay or should he go? Anyhow it's 3am here and I'm off to bed. Hope there are no things that go bump in the night waiting for me. Except maybe the Mrs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 Forget court and science. Use your common sence to figure this out. Well, there you go. Forget science, use your common sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 When I was younger I believed in the Tooth Fairy, Father Christmas, the Easter Bunny, Ghosts & Leprecons. As I got older I learned the truth and also found out the reasons for being told these magnificent fictitious people existed. It's amazing that some of these tales told to us as kids still stand the test of time in adults. I've read that the lower the IQ the more dependance there is in such beliefs. *whistles* doooo doooo dooooo doooo dooooo doooo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 Fair enough. I see your point, but to me in this situation its not vaild. There are things in this world science is yet to prove;) FACT. That court one, to me is a load of crappy crap. He saw a man with his HEAD TILTED, ok what the hell, back to sleep. Few days later, his UNCLE (family) cut down a dead body which was hanged. SUICIDE. Check it These things are usually family related, distant or close Suicide, most spirits are here becuase they are not at rest, died in a horiffic way. Forget court and science. Use your common sence to figure this out. Dont know why im even trying at this time of the night, nobody besides damo really cares...goodnight, lets see what you all come up with by the morning. Someone watches alot of crappy telly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evinX Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 Edit, the people who i wanted to see this have gone offline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evinX Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 Someone watches alot of crappy telly Think what you want, but i know whats what. These things usually go on abroad in religious countries, ive been told places like the usa and uk still have these things to come and become more common. I was freaked out when i was told that, but it seems to be true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCK10 Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 Now that you talk about sleep paralysis actually, i did read something very interesting about it not so long ago. I'll have a gander and see if i can find the link again. Cant remember what its called. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evinX Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_paralysis possible causes, Sleeping in a face upwards or supine position (first times yes, now, no, get it in any position, sometimes i even wake up with my face in the pillow gasing for air:S) Irregular sleeping schedules; naps, sleeping in, sleep deprivation (no, happens during normal sleep) Increased stress (few years ago, maybe, now, no) Sudden environmental/lifestyle changes (few years ago, yes, now, no) A lucid dream that immediately precedes the episode (dont think so) Excessive consumption of alcohol coupled with lack of adequate sleep (ive gone to sleep p*ssed many times, and its not happened) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evinX Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 Dude this one just messed me up Quote Many perceptions associated with sleep paralysis (visceral buzzing, loud sounds, adrenal mental state, presences, and the paralysis itself) also constitute a common phase in the early progression of episodes referred to as out of body experiences.[15][16] Mental focus varies between the two conditions; paralysis sufferers tend to fixate on reestablishing operation of the body, whereas subjects of out-of-body episodes are more occupied by perceived non-equivalence with the body. Early stages of out of body episodes...my god. All i can say is, bring it:( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCK10 Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 Yea, but the link im looking for is a specific form of sleep paralysis which is very intense to say the least. Quite scary to be honest and all manifests from your brain. EDIT: Wouldn't particularly want to be in your shoes if that were to happen:taped: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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