Purity14 Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 So who is buying stock in BP at the moment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 Plastics are easily recycled though. You've only got to watch a few episodes of "How is it made?" to see that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsween Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 Don't forget the "empty" wells are constantly filling up again. The natural process doesn't stop. Research into the levels coming up again was kept quiet but it did slip out a few years ago that scientists etc were surprised how fast the wells were replenishing. Not saying we wouldn't use it up faster than it could fill up but.... As Ian says though, where would we be without plastic? There is no such thing as an empty well, just hydrocarbons we cant get to with todays technology Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsween Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 Also dont forget that you dont just produce oil, natural gas is another massve product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermonkey Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 i'll be out of a job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandan Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 There is no such thing as an empty well, just hydrocarbons we cant get to with todays technology Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 Another problem that can only be solved my mass genocide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 I thought the bigger problem wasn't the level of oil, nor the required amount of energy to attain the oil, but more the fact that we can't get at the stuff quick enough to supply demand. I saw on Newsnight just last night I think it was (or maybe the night before) that this year is when the oil worriers (those who think we'll run out) start to think the demand will start to increase above supply. The oil companies apparently agree, but not to the extent that the worriers believe will be the case. So really, within our lifetime, as there will still be oil, but supply will oustrip our capacity to get at the stuff, we should invest heavily into oil companies as they'll be even more in demand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evinX Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 Haha, ok, it would be dry...but humans would of had to work harder, making them better people basically, oil has made things to easy for us. Cant wait until it runs out, mental break downs everywhere HA! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsween Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 Haha, ok, it would be dry...but humans would of had to work harder, making them better people basically, oil has made things to easy for us. Cant wait until it runs out, mental break downs everywhere HA! Are you having a laugh mate? It'll be a disaster when it happens if we've not found other suitable means of power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evinX Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 Are you having a laugh mate? It'll be a disaster when it happens if we've not found other suitable means of power. And you have proved my point, you obviously are scared hehe. If you look at people now, compared to 10 years ago, people get worse and worse as life gets easier and easier, and oil has made life easy. Yes im having a laugh, a big one lool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsween Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 I thought the bigger problem wasn't the level of oil, nor the required amount of energy to attain the oil, but more the fact that we can't get at the stuff quick enough to supply demand. I saw on Newsnight just last night I think it was (or maybe the night before) that this year is when the oil worriers (those who think we'll run out) start to think the demand will start to increase above supply. The oil companies apparently agree, but not to the extent that the worriers believe will be the case. So really, within our lifetime, as there will still be oil, but supply will oustrip our capacity to get at the stuff, we should invest heavily into oil companies as they'll be even more in demand. The thing is we've got most of the easy oil/gas. Old wells are being re-completed with newer technology for producing extra from the wel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsween Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 And you have proved my point, you obviously are scared hehe. If you look at people now, compared to 10 years ago, people get worse and worse as life gets easier and easier, and oil has made life easy. Yes im having a laugh, a big one lool Yea i'll be out of a job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 As I've said before we're devolving anyway as a species due to science and human rights crap, survival of the fittest and natural selection based on environment which results in selecting the strongest genes to pass on is no longer the basis for humans creating offspring. The future of us will be based on genetic engineering to clear up inherent issues that we've bred into ourselves, if technology is run by a majority of natural fuel sources then we will quickly become a very weak race and be killed off by superbugs that we've created and other creatures that have evolved around us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evinX Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 Yea i'll be out of a job :dstill jobless, but im not looking for a job until this supra gets painted and my minds at rest...lame, but this supra is showing signs of slight rust and im not going to let her die.....!! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiceRocket Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 There's a programme in the Anytime (on Sky HD+) called "Aftermath:World Without Oil" made by Nat Geo that looks interesting, recorded it myself for a rainy day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little num Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 my jeeps run on veggie oil so ill be ok, so if the worst comes to it ill get me mrs to tow me around in the supra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snooze Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 With our continued reliance on fossil fuels, the economic pit of doom that most of the western world is digging itself into, and the ever-increasing global population, I am of the increasing opinion that something truly cataclysmic has to happen within the next 50 years. Maybe it'll be a scientific brekathrough (nuclear fusion?) Maybe it'll be a US/China war (US will NEVER afford to pay back their $1trillion debt) Maybe it'll be the collapse of various currencies - USD, GBP, EUR, YEN, etc. (the concept of "money" is looking ever more fragile) Something's got to break...... soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsween Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 My bet is on a collapse of one of the currencies. We've already seen how unstable the entire financial market is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martini Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 I am of the increasing opinion that something truly cataclysmic has to happen within the next 50 years. You're not alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagman Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 With our continued reliance on fossil fuels, the economic pit of doom that most of the western world is digging itself into, and the ever-increasing global population, I am of the increasing opinion that something truly cataclysmic has to happen within the next 50 years. Maybe it'll be a scientific brekathrough (nuclear fusion?) Maybe it'll be a US/China war (US will NEVER afford to pay back their $1trillion debt) Maybe it'll be the collapse of various currencies - USD, GBP, EUR, YEN, etc. (the concept of "money" is looking ever more fragile) Something's got to break...... soon. US debt is between 15 and 30 trillion dollars Money is fine as long as its relative to something rather than just a notional number thing and not made exponential by the application of interest% Moving from the gold standard by the Americans, to fund the Vietnam war, started the problem with notional money , The French didnt like the idea but were out voted !! For sure there are problems but were pretty good at fixing those in the end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dane_stone Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Hemp can do pretty much everything oil can do and more they just don't tell you that. Now I wonder why hemp is illegal in world war 2 Hemp was the future of america because you could do so much with it and oil was hard to get hold of. War ends and the oil company's get it illegal again. Hemp is the future but we're not aloud to talk about it while the oil company's have so much say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evinX Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Its all getting to much now. rip dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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