RobD Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 (edited) I know the pistons are different between the GTE and GE engines but are the blocks different in anyway? Would a TT head fit a NA block? Edited June 8, 2010 by RobD (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee P Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 The blocks are the same its just the NA's havent had the oil ways drilled out for the turbo feeds and the squirters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 No oil squirters in an NA, the heads will swap over, cranks are the same but the oil feed needs drilling out as it is blanked off internally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 snap.......lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobD Posted June 8, 2010 Author Share Posted June 8, 2010 How hard would it be to drill out the oil feeds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 You would need the block completly stripped, you can take a feed elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobD Posted June 8, 2010 Author Share Posted June 8, 2010 So there wouldn't be any down sides to using a NA block once oil feeds etc have been sorted? Reason being is that I can get hold of some TT pistons and stock turbos cheap, obviously if I'm fitting the pistons and a TT head I may aswell strip the block and do the feeds at the same time! I'd just need to source other bits needed to convert mine to a tt! I just wanted to definitely make sure there's no downsides really! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 The squirters will be harder but some of the drag cars have them blocked off in the US, the pistons would run hotter but maybe you could get them coated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobD Posted June 8, 2010 Author Share Posted June 8, 2010 (edited) Thanks for the info Dude! If I can get the rest of the bits cheap it maybe worth putting it all together and seeing how she goes! If I was to get the pistons coated aswell At least then it's got a better chance of not blowing up! Edited June 9, 2010 by RobD (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 alot of the big power cars in the us use na blocks or block off the squirters so i cant see that causing you a big issue . i wait to be corrected if this is not the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobD Posted June 9, 2010 Author Share Posted June 9, 2010 (edited) I'm quite tempted to get a TT head now and fit the pistons ESP if I could use my block! Just done a bit of investigation and getting some squirters in could cause a problem, so if I was to go with out them this should be ok? How much does it usually cost to have a set of pistons coated? Edited June 9, 2010 by RobD (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 well iv been running boost on my ge block without coated pistons for a few years and they havent melted yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobD Posted June 9, 2010 Author Share Posted June 9, 2010 I suppose anyone running NA-T would be without squirters so if they haven't blown there engine by now it should last right? I'm going to buy a spare NA engine or block if I can get hold of one and build it up! Just need a TT head now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 I'm quite tempted to get a TT head now and fit the pistons ESP if I could use my block! Just done a bit of investigation and getting some squirters in could cause a problem, so if I was to go with out them this should be ok? How much does it usually cost to have a set of pistons coated? The machining required to sort the oil squirters is a easy. Anyone fool with a mill should be able to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobD Posted June 9, 2010 Author Share Posted June 9, 2010 There's a few places around me that maybe able to do this! I'll have a look into a price for some squirters then, just got a set of turbo's and pistons now, will get a spare NA engine or block after my holidays and build it up ready for winter! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 Squirters AND coated pistons would be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobD Posted June 9, 2010 Author Share Posted June 9, 2010 Squirters AND coated pistons would be nice. Have AFR got the things needed to do this Dude? If so how much would it cost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Massey Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 I'm going to buy a spare NA engine or block if I can get hold of one and build it up! Just need a TT head now! I have most of a auto in my aerotop shell that im more than happy to let you have mate for a few beers. Only problem is its still in and i dont have the tools or know how of how to take it out. but im sure someone else will locally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobD Posted June 9, 2010 Author Share Posted June 9, 2010 Thanks bud! I can come down and take it out mate! I'll just have to see if I can get my hands on an engine hoist from work for the day! Just not to sure when I can, it maybe after my holiday in July if that's alright? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Massey Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 Fine by me mate, i go to Canada(BATUS) at the end of this month and come back at the end of July and will be on leave in August which i will be spending most of it here working on the car anyway. Plus it saves me a job of taking it out for a TT conversion later on down the line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobD Posted June 9, 2010 Author Share Posted June 9, 2010 Cool, thanks for that bud! I'm quite tempted to log down costs for this build as I reckon it's going to be alot cheaper than just buying a conversion kit, if you can do the job yourself obviously! Plus this way I can put new shells, seals etc throughout! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JODY T Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 I Had a chat with someone at Cp ages ago about using the NA block etc and referenced the squirters etc as a difference.. he said the pistons arnt designed to Need the squirters.. So just get some aftermarket pistons a new headgasket and bolt on a TT head turbos etc, and modify two oil feed/return for the turbos.. Not too hard a job.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobD Posted June 10, 2010 Author Share Posted June 10, 2010 Well this is definitely going ahead now! Had enough of threatening it, I've got the pistons, turbos, injectors and rail, plus maybe a plenum and throttle body! Just need a head and other little things! Dudes sorting a price for the block work and coated pistons! Also hopefully got an engine off Al so will be building that up and will be fitting over winter, going to get the car resprayed whilst engine is out aswell! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakey Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 Good luck Rob! Hope this will bring back the love! Are you Keeping it red or going with a different colour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobD Posted June 10, 2010 Author Share Posted June 10, 2010 Me to mate! I could've sold it by now but haven't so somethings keeping me from doing it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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