Lost my car key >_<

[Ian C]

It's my Mondeo, not my Supra. Shame, as I've got spares for the Supra

 

Ford want this to happen:

1) I get the car, locked and immobilised, to their dealership

2) They drill out a lock (although I suggested busting a window would be cheaper)

3) They dismantle another lock to get the lock codes

4) They make me a new key and program it to fit my imobiliser

5) They replace the locks.

 

All that is going to cost a sizeable chunk of the value of the car. I call upon the diverse experience and expertise of this forum for a Better Way please. The best thing would be some mobile business who can come over, pop the locks and cut/program me a new key.

 

Try and refrain on the "set it on fire" suggestions as it's (fortunately) outside my neighbours house on the street and I don't think he'd appreciate it.

 

Your assistance is appreciated

 

-Ian

[Attero]

The worst part is you'll probably find your keys in the washing machine after.

[Rob_Mitchell]

turn the house upside down they cant be far mate, or do you think there lost elsewhere? bit of a silly question as you prob dont know lol

[pistonbroke]

If Ford can remove the lock to get the code (something I know they can do as I used to do it), why drill one out in the first place?.

 

Is the car double locked?, if not, they are fairly easy to get into with a coat hangar through the door.

 

I'm also pretty sure that Ford can get your key code from the vin number, this would mean they could cut a key without messing with the locks.

 

Have a look in your service pack, they originally came with 2 plastic strips that were attached to the keys when new, if these are still in the pack, they have a 6 digit number on, this is your key code. You can cut a key with this then program it later.

 

HTH

[michael]

Don't Ford keys all have a unique code that allows you to just order new ones? Maybe just the old crappers I drive around in but I've done this in the past on a couple of cars now and bought pre-cut keys on eBay. Obviously you need to get them coded if the car isn't capable of doing it for you but it's a start.

 

Perhaps you need the original tag they give you when you buy the car but you'd think they could trace this back based on the VIN or something. Even Toyota can cut keys without the car being there.

[Wez]

Were you speaking to the YTS kid or something

[Ark]

2 options:

 

1: Brick, window, auto-glass

2: Borrow Ford keys off anyone you know, and see if they work on your car - Ford keys only have something like 32 possible combinations.

[Attero]

Ford keys only have something like 32 possible combinations.

 

That would be silly to have only that many combinations.

[pistonbroke]

2 options:

 

1: Brick, window, auto-glass

2: Borrow Ford keys off anyone you know, and see if they work on your car - Ford keys only have something like 32 possible combinations.

 

Erm, you're wrong there bud

[Thorin]

Kill it with f... oh. Erm, I can't help sorry.

[marc_p]

Kill it with fire!!!!!

[pistonbroke]

[Ark]

Erm, you're wrong there bud

 

Maybe they've changed it, but the last Ford I had (1 year ago) had the same old key design. When customers don't pay for their cars, they send out the repo-men armed with a bunch of keys (32) to 'steal' the cars back.

[pistonbroke]

I'm sorry mate, but that's turd. I used to cut the keys.

 

There are 6 slots, with 4 varying degrees of 'cut'.

 

Hopefully I'm working this out correctly (a maths bod will be along soon to prove me wrong if I am)

 

So thats 4x4x4x4x4x4 = 4096 combinations.

[Chris and Alana]

try another ford key if you can, its worth a try. I had a mk5 fiesta and it went straight into my mates escort, opened the door and started the ignition, wouldnt start the car though.

[pistonbroke]

try another ford key if you can, its worth a try. I had a mk5 fiesta and it went straight into my mates escort, opened the door and started the ignition, wouldnt start the car though.

 

This is why I used to cut so many of them, the keys wear down along with the locks, to the point where any key will open any door.

 

The PATS (passive anti theft system) will stop you starting the engine.

[caseys]

try another ford key if you can, its worth a try. I had a mk5 fiesta and it went straight into my mates escort, opened the door and started the ignition, wouldnt start the car though.

 

That's because the key will work the tumbler/barrel but it should have a tiny transponder in it that'll talk to a transponder in the ignition barrel. If they don't match even if it'll work the lock it won't start.

 

Ian as said above you should be able to get keys cut if you've got the details in the log book.

[Ian C]

I checked the log book and found a key code card. I've been happy all day until I just unfolded it and it's for the locking alloy wheel nuts, what a bastard

[Ian C]

This is why I used to cut so many of them, the keys wear down along with the locks, to the point where any key will open any door.

 

 

Can you tell me what you need for getting a key cut? The main thing I need to do is get in it without damage, then it can be easily taken to the Ford place and get reprogrammed.

 

I know the new keys will cost muchos money but the idea of paying for a recovery truck and the repairs to the damage done on top of that is sticking in my throat somewhat

[Digsy]

Can you tell me what you need for getting a key cut?

 

Unfortunately I think you need a key. At least Toyota did when I had one done.

 

I'm sure this has crossed your mind already but are you 100% sure you cannot find them again? I dropped my garage key on my drive in the snow last year and it took me all afternoon to find the bugger but found it I did

[pistonbroke]

You don't need another key, you just need the code. Three ways I know of getting the code. Read from a spare key, dismantling a barrell and reading it using the tumbler plates, or having the key codes from the original keyring.

 

They keys aren't that much, though seeing as you need the master key to program slave keys, you'll need the whole thing restting on the computer, that's the part that'll cost you.

 

Is the car double locked?

[Ian C]

You don't need another key, you just need the code. Three ways I know of getting the code. Read from a spare key, dismantling a barrell and reading it using the tumbler plates, or having the key codes from the original keyring.

 

They keys aren't that much, though seeing as you need the master key to program slave keys, you'll need the whole thing restting on the computer, that's the part that'll cost you.

 

Well I've found a sorta local chap who's accredited in some form of car locksmithery. Apparently these people can make new keys without needing a key to copy - I dunno how he does it but he's my best shot. I'm awaiting a callback now.

 

Is the car double locked?

 

Of course it is, it wouldn't be any fun otherwise

[Ian C]

are you 100% sure you cannot find them again?

 

I'll just say "yes" while grinding my teeth

[Purity14]

Open the car youself using the window coathanger method, if you are having problems call out the AA and tell them you "locked them in side"

Once the car is open, take out the barrel from the door, take the barrel to ford and say - "give me a key that fits this." ?

[Tom S]

Open the car youself using the window coathanger method, if you are having problems call out the AA and tell them you "locked them in side"

Once the car is open, take out the barrel from the door, take the barrel to ford and say - "give me a key that fits this." ?

 

trust a scouser to come up with a novel answer that sounds plausible