New supra owner bad start

[Shane]

yeah spoke to him

he said he diddnt know what it could be.

i supose ill just have to wait to see what the problem is and how much itl cost to sort.

 

Hi mate and welcome.

 

That's a really

bad

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start to Supra ownership.

 

I have to say that doubt if it's front oil seal with the description of oil spraying out of the rear. I fear that maybe the turbo has died:( . I guess theres a number of things it could be and we will wait to hear from you. Hope it works out and you get it back up and running in no time without too much cost and grief.

 

There are loads of knowledgeable people on here who can offer you good advice.

[Guest Rit-600]

thanks for all the suport and help every 1.

any one know how much a new singal turbo would cost then ???

[pistonbroke]

I wouldn't go hunting for prices of things until you narrow down what the problem is, you'll only scare yourself unnecessarily.

 

The front main seal failing is not unheard of on supras, and when they fail they can be pretty spectacular as you have described. Providing you've stopped the car as quickly as possible as you described, I doubt you've done any damage to the rest of the engine.

 

Replacing the seal isn't too big a job, not much more work than a cambelt change. You may well be advised by the garage though that a new oil pump is required. I've done some reading on FMS failures, and a few have put it down to old oil pumps being the cause.

 

There's no point worrying yourself about what 'might' be the problem, just hold out for whifbitz to report back and go from there.

[Swampy442]

As long as the previous owner pays the repairs of course, show of good faith. Oil on the back of the car will no doubt have come under the car and up due to the airflow. Fingers crossed and welcome to ownership...

[The Raven]

Can o worms i fear, private sale sold as seen.

 

I would let one of our traders take a look around it.

[Rich]

Hi mate and welcome.

 

That's a really

bad

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start to Supra ownership.

 

I have to say that doubt if it's front oil seal with the description of oil spraying out of the rear. I fear that maybe the turbo has died:( . I guess theres a number of things it could be and we will wait to hear from you. Hope it works out and you get it back up and running in no time without too much cost and grief.

 

There are loads of knowledgeable people on here who can offer you good advice.

 

I very much doubt that you could lose all the engine oil through the turbo seals mate.My money is on the FMS.

[dude]

If you get the oil pump changed make sure Paul has a look in the old one, if its all mashed up you have other problems.

[Shane]

I wouldn't go hunting for prices of things until you narrow down what the problem is, you'll only scare yourself unnecessarily.

 

The front main seal failing is not unheard of on supras, and when they fail they can be pretty spectacular as you have described. Providing you've stopped the car as quickly as possible as you described, I doubt you've done any damage to the rest of the engine.

 

Replacing the seal isn't too big a job, not much more work than a cambelt change. You may well be advised by the garage though that a new oil pump is required. I've done some reading on FMS failures, and a few have put it down to old oil pumps being the cause.

 

 

There's no point worrying yourself about what 'might' be the problem, just hold out for whifbitz to report back and go from there.

 

This is all very true and good advice, and it's pointless worring anymore than you already must be at this stage as it's all guesswork based on your description. If the FMS failed what could the "bang" have been?

Seems like you have made the right decision though sending it to Paul.

[shima60]

Major bummer ... Hope its not to bad but you never know. I hope it all works out well for you.

[monsween]

As long as the previous owner pays the repairs of course, show of good faith. Oil on the back of the car will no doubt have come under the car and up due to the airflow. Fingers crossed and welcome to ownership...

 

I really dont think the previous owner has to. Granted this is a real bummer of a thing to happen.

 

In all honesty as soon as a car leaves my driveway thats it.

 

Now dont get me wrong i feel sorry for the new owner.

 

Hope you get it fixed soon dude

[Supragoose]

sorry to here your demise mate ,hope shes sorted swiftly and youre back on the road soon

[SupraDan24]

As long as it was road worthy ie would have past an MOT then i dont think the seller has to pay anything. If it wouldnt have then i guess it wouldnt have been "fit for use" so i would have thought he would have been held liable as shouldnt have sold it without stating so upon purchase. Whether or not this is true i have no idea so dont hold me too it, its just what i was told last year sometime. Hope it gets sorted anyway buddy

[stevie_b]

The MOT only tells part of the story: it concentrates on safety. I could for example drain all the oil out of my car and take it to an MOT test. If the engine holds out long enough for the tester to complete the test, it'll pass.

 

I do agree with the suggestions that it probably isn't the seller's fault though. Sudden mechanical failure of parts is very hard to predict, and I can't think of any circumstance whereby the buyer could say to the seller, "You did (or neglected to do) AAA to the car, hence I want my money back or you to pay for repairs".

 

At this stage it sounds like very unfortunate timing for the OP.

[JamieP]

After it made the bang you mention did the car die or did you switch off?

[colsoop]

The bang bit is a worry but no point speculating on what it is.

I know its easy to say but wait and see what Whifbitz say.

[pistonbroke]

The bang could be the crank pulley?

 

Again, nothing new to supras, and not unreasonable to suspect. In fact, Lee just had exactly the same thing when his parted company with the engine.

[Swampy442]

I really dont think the previous owner has to. Granted this is a real bummer of a thing to happen.

 

In all honesty as soon as a car leaves my driveway thats it.

 

Now dont get me wrong i feel sorry for the new owner.

 

Hope you get it fixed soon dude

 

Noted mate, forgot it was a private sale Sorry

Isnt there anyone local who can have a look and give you an idea of whats wrong?

Edited June 4, 2010 by Swampy442 (see edit history)

[Peter P]

As a few peeps have said, it'll be in good hands with Paul and Darren over at Whifbitz and they will let you know the problem and suspected cause.

 

Not a nice start to ownership, but fingers crossed it's nothing too costly and hasn't done too much damage!

 

Did the oil warning light come on a while before it spat it's guts out and as Jamie mentioned did it cut out or did you stop it and get it recovered??

 

A private sale and sold as seen to me means this isn't the concern of the seller and one of those things unfortunately!

 

Fingers crossed for you though buddy and i'm sure it'll get sorted soon for you to enjoy!

 

Pete

[Guest Rit-600]

it went bang smoke come out i pulled over and turned car off diddnt cut out

let it cool down then i turned her back on and saw oil light so turned off again and thats about it reli

[Guest hell_rider]

And to think I was crazy about that car and wanted to buy it..

It's a shame really and personally I find it lame and very strange that it happened not long after you have bought it and driven it back..

Not implying that the seller did something to the car but maybe there was a problem he knew and didn't mention..

 

To be honest I don't know what to believe but I really hope its a cheap fix and wish you all the luck with it mate

[supracars]

oh no!! hope things get sorted for you quick mate that is a terrible start to a new supe.

[Dave222]

Ok guys it was me that sold the car in question.

All I can say is that I have owned that car for 3 years and used it virtually every day as my daily driver, as I hope you can all see from the pictures of the car and the underbonnet I have spent a load of cash and time on the car and when I sold it to Richard I had no knowledge of the impending failure as I am sure most of you will appreciate.

During the sale we took the car out and did approx 15-20 miles putting it through its paces and when we got back there was not a sign of any "oil" issue, not a drop of oil in my drive or under the bonnet.

I have a number of good contacts on here that I have made over the years and hope they will respond to this thread with their thoughts and knowledge of the car.

Once again I wouldlike to restate that this type of failure is totally unpredictable and there is no way I would sell anything that I thought was faulty in anyway without telling the purchaser.

Regards Dave.

[supracars]

Ok guys it was me that sold the car in question.

All I can say is that I have owned that car for 3 years and used it virtually every day as my daily driver, as I hope you can all see from the pictures of the car and the underbonnet I have spent a load of cash and time on the car and when I sold it to Richard I had no knowledge of the impending failure as I am sure most of you will appreciate.

During the sale we took the car out and did approx 15-20 miles putting it through its paces and when we got back there was not a sign of any "oil" issue, not a drop of oil in my drive or under the bonnet.

I have a number of good contacts on here that I have made over the years and hope they will respond to this thread with their thoughts and knowledge of the car.

Once again I wouldlike to restate that this type of failure is totally unpredictable and there is no way I would sell anything that I thought was faulty in anyway without telling the purchaser.

Regards Dave.

 

 

 

Sounds fair enough to me

[hadyn]

Really sorry to hear about this and I hope you get your car sorted out

[scotty71]

Just my opinion and in no way is this bias towards the seller or buyer. Any car bought private really is sold as seen with no warrenty implied unless the seller wants to give one. The Supra's are a breed of thier own really and Dave222's car obviously had a big spec and some good money spent on it during his ownership. I bought my Supra in January and was ok with myself and my friend with our mechanical knowledge looking over the car and looking at the owners past posts/history/service evidence to see what, if any issues he had had with the car.

 

I paid 6k and was happy to proceed with the purchase on what I had seen both car wise and documentation wise. I have had no issues touch wood at this stage. For 13k for a big single I would have gone about this differently though. I would not have felt comfortable releasing that amount of money on something I was not fully clued up on. Perhaps I would have had an independant report done or a member with a big single to view and give thier thoughts also.

 

I just think this is one of those situations that happens but that is no consulation to the buyer (he is bound to be gutted) but then to the seller too as people will jump to conclusions there was an issue. Im sure this was a case of bad luck on the buyers part and that an issue with the car could/would have been noticed on thorough inspection before parting with 13k.

 

Hopefully it will not be to bad an issue and Im sure Whifbitz will sort it in no time and then you can start to enjoy your Supra ownership