supra steveo Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 well ive been playing with my car again the good news is ive got new pads and discs all round the bads news is ive done something to my rear hand brake when i was taking the disc off and now one of the clips hits the back of the wheel studs on the hub what the hell have i done ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted May 21, 2010 Author Share Posted May 21, 2010 also what is the correct way to take rear discs off ? i take it leathering the living day lights out of it isnt the answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 I guess you released the handbrake and slackened the shoes off before removing the disc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritter1 Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 Nothing wrong with leathering the living daylights out of an old disc As for why the clips hitting the stud I can't help you but for taking rear discs off, as far as I can tell, they are a similar design to my Vectra's rear discs in that the handbrake is inside the rear disc? If so, then usually you have to turn a cog or similar through one of the excess holes in the disc which slackens the shoes off inside so they stop gripping the disc (and of course, handbrake needs to be off). However, as I have never worked on a Supra before, I can't be dead sure but that is the usual way. (Oh, and whacking it one with as heavy a hammer as you can find ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted May 21, 2010 Author Share Posted May 21, 2010 slackened the shoes off before removing the disc what what i took the hand brake off and just brayed it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awisto Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 The retaining cap isn't on properly, or the pin has broke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted May 21, 2010 Author Share Posted May 21, 2010 as far as I can tell, they are a similar design to my Vectra's rear discs in that the handbrake is inside the rear disc? If so, then usually you have to turn a cog or similar through one of the excess holes in the disc which slackens the shoes off inside so they stop gripping the disc doh and yeah it was a canny big hammer smashed part of the disc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted May 21, 2010 Author Share Posted May 21, 2010 probably wrecked the pin then doh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JODY T Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 you have bent the pins, just remove them and bend them back, done it loads of times.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen-Jm-Imports Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 looks like your spring has knacked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTRickeh Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 You have to slacken off the handbrake through the hole in the disc when the hole's at the bottom. Then you need two bolts to put through the other two holes to lever the disc off. Hopefully the attached pic will help you get the handbrake sorted. Let's hope nothing's broken. You can see in the third pic you uploaded how the spring/clip/pin should sit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JODY T Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 doh and yeah it was a canny big hammer smashed part of the disc have u slackened the nut under the gear sel panel, may have already been adjusted with worn pads.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted May 21, 2010 Author Share Posted May 21, 2010 have u slackened the nut under the gear sel panel, may have already been adjusted with worn pads.. ?? dont know what you mean mate hopefully day light and a fresh head will sort this out been out in the sun all day doing the car shoulders are well burnt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted May 21, 2010 Author Share Posted May 21, 2010 the spring doesnt look too bad i think its just the pin you know , are these a pain to replace ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 The outer washer that retains the spring holding the handbrake shoes has been given so much grief the spade end of the pin has been pulled through it. You need a new washer. If you use it like that all kinds of bad things will happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted May 22, 2010 Author Share Posted May 22, 2010 (edited) is it a hard job ? Edited May 23, 2010 by supra steveo (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted May 22, 2010 Author Share Posted May 22, 2010 right guys the damaged part is now removed thing is how the hell am i ment to do the whined (?) the shoes back, cant seem to find anything apart from a round thing in the 6o`clock position ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTRickeh Posted May 22, 2010 Share Posted May 22, 2010 Whined? This is an EPC diagram of the handbrake mechanism. http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showpost.php?p=548183&postcount=2 The adjuster is at the bottom centre of the pic labelled 47405A and 47406A. You spin the middle of it round to wind in/out the shoes. Make sure you have spring 46550E as I can't see it in your pics, then again I can't see your adjuster either. Not sure if it's just the angle of the pic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted May 22, 2010 Share Posted May 22, 2010 You shouldn't have to belt the disc off as you'll bend the pins, as you've found out. When you come to re-fitting the disc, spin the little spindle that's at the 6 oclock position to pull the handbrake shoes in a little bit. Then fit the disc. You then need to spin the spindle the opposite direction to before to push the shoes back out untill they touch the disc. To do this, spin the disc around until one of the holes lined up with where the spindle is (In your first pic, it's the one with the rubber bung in) You should then be able to reach in with a flat bladed screwdriver and turn the spindle. Do a click on the spindle and then try spinning the disc - it'll be loose and then it'll bind up completely. Once you've got the disc locked up, unwind the spindle 8 clicks so it doesn't bind up as you're driving. Job done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted May 22, 2010 Author Share Posted May 22, 2010 job done wow that clip and spring are a right pain in the arse well its done now, cheers to all for your input i needed it just one thing tho the little thing at the 6 o`clock position didnt make and clicking noises when whineding back the shoes, how do i reset the hand brake once wound back ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Massey Posted May 22, 2010 Share Posted May 22, 2010 Did you get the spare bits off mine? And i hope you didnt break it lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted May 22, 2010 Author Share Posted May 22, 2010 no didnt break any thing mate cheers for the pin , came off easier than the fronts after whinding the brake shoe back, 2 taps and it was free came off so easy and i am not joking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted May 24, 2010 Author Share Posted May 24, 2010 all sorted now, just got a parcel from Steve Manley with the few bits in to sort out the knackered bits on my front brakes brushes and pad springs Etc. chuffed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Massey Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 You going to put mine back together then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevins Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 look through one of the holes in the hub and you should find it will line up with the adjuster. Now with a screw driver rotate it and thats how you you adjust it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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