hey guys

[tbourner]

Has anyone mentioned checking that the insurance quote is for a MK4 and not a MK3? the companies get it wrong quite often and even with a number plate they put it in as a MK3.

If you can find a UK TT that will be cheapest to insure (probably).

[ritter1]

yeh, UK cars are cheapest by the look of it, just more expensive to buy lol.

 

It is confusing the way it lists a load of TT's and one just saying 'Turbo auto 3 door'. Im guessing it may well be mixed up with the mk3. Tbh, I wouldnt mind a mk3 but I dont really like them much, the later 'rounder' version is quite nice but they are more difficult to find too. Do you guys know if the mk3 turbo was called a turbo and not TT? if so thats probably what has happened.

[ritter1]

just done a quote using this UK auto TT's reg just to check and it came out as auto Turbo 3 door in the decription again:

 

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Toyota-Supra-3-0-Litre-Twin-Turbo-Auto-UK-car-new-/380225973642?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item58873bed8a

 

little outa the price range I will be able to afford lol but just to check the insurance out. Putting down a Wrexham address, putting down the car has a Cat 1 Thatcham alarm and as though I was 21 with 2 years clean driving, the quote was £1563.65

 

will still phone the insurance companies up when I get round to actually buying one but seems good dont you think?

 

That quote was off elephant.co.uk by the way, the second cheapest was admiral with a quote of £1572.05.

 

These quotes are for TPFT by the way, FC goes upto £1828.25. Just crazy how cheap it would be.

[tbourner]

Try tiger.co.uk. I don't know if they'll compare for imports though but they've been cheap for my 'normal' cars.

[ritter1]

just tried tiger.co.uk and cam eback more expensive but thanks anyway tbourner

[ritter1]

Well guys, did my final exam of the year yesterday and so the hunt for a job is on. Now, just incase (hopefully) I can get a job and save some decnet money, ive worked out I could probably save upto around £3k by the time I go back to uni and if my mum can pay me back the £500 she borrowed from my last loan and I can keep the £100 I have left of it I could have around £3.6k. So I was wondering, if all this comes together as I hope, is it even possible to buy a TT auto for less than £3k? I wouldnt want to spend the whole amount on the car and im not too fussed about having a show car yet, as long as the mechanicals are fine and the bodywork not too bad, its fine with me as long as its got that supra badge on the back lol.

 

Ive seen a number of NA autos for around that price but TTs are obviously far more expensive (as are the UK cars.... hopefully an import wouldnt cost too much to insure).

[tbourner]

Erm, you might find one. Just for info though my TT was costing me on average £150 a month (not including the loan to pay for it), so the fact that you're counting each £100 you have is a concern. These aren't cheap cars to own unless you really don't care and just want the bare minimum supe to drive around in.

[ritter1]

Tbh, the main reason behind staying nearer the uni next yr is to save money anyway and as it will save 80 quids worth of petrol per week etc and insurance is far cheaper, the excess money just seems like it could be used to get myself a supra although I know they are expensive cars to own. Dont forget, the money being spent on the vectra atm would then go to running the supra so not as much an overspend as you may be thinking.

 

Im guessing it would be easier and overall cheaper to go NA though? Even though they arent as quick as I thought they are still quicker than my vectra (although 3 to 3.5 secs 0-60 doesnt seems too good considering the gap in 'status').

[tbourner]

I've only had one Supe and it was a TT6 so I don't know. It seems that the only NA guys who are disappointed and want a TT are the ones who 'make do' with an NA when they couldn't afford a TT for whatever reason (usually insurance). So if it's purely a cost thing then wait and get a TT when you can (IMO). If you just like the look/style of a Supe and aren't always chasing the redline trying to keep up with X,Y,Z then an NA will do fine.

[ritter1]

My dream would be a Supra rated at over 1000bhp...... but of course, thats ALOT of money a LONG way down the line haha.

 

I guess an NA wouldn't be too bad, afterall, I love the look of a Supe more than almost an car out there (way better than the boring saloon Skylines... ) but because its not actually that quick it sorta puts me off; I prefer a car to go quicker than it looks, not the other way around.

 

It's just that tiny difference in insurance between the NA and TT that is just so persuasive haha.

 

(Oh, and by the way, that 3 to 3.5 seconds 0-60 statement was about the difference in 0-60 lol, not the actual speed lol)

[hoff]

Welcome to the club. I'm from the other side of oswestry/welshpool way, not far away:) We have a couple of members around here and shrewsbury who often get together:)

 

By the way, before going NA-TT I started off in an NA auto. It was my 1st car off its type (ie rear wheel drive with a bit of power). I was very happy with it like that. It was plenty quick enough and didn't show itself up on the road. The autobox was a nice drive and versatile once you learn how to use it effectively. I enjoyed the car like that for 2 years before having opportunity to go NA-TT.

 

If you go with an NA, you wont be looking at power mods. Best advice on that font is to stick to the stock air box and get a decant exhaust if it doesn't already have one. If you are lucky you may come accross one of Nics stainless manifolds on sale here. If you want to improve the har look at handling and breaking with an NA:)

Edited May 21, 2010 by hoff (see edit history)

[ritter1]

Hey hoff, yeh, ive driven through there a few times over the last yr. Don't suppose there's a member on here from Wrexham with a white/silver Supra is there? I'm sure it's white but cant quite remember and it's always parked outside pc world in Wrexham lol. Just thought you might 'recognise' it?

 

That is along the lines I was thinking should I get an NA. Exhaust is a definite with Supras I've heard as the stock one is just too restrictive and with the budget I would have, performance mods would be out of the question and the stock air box is capable of 500bhp anyway isn't it?

 

Any ideas the cost at upgrading brakes and suspension (things I would improve first anyway, I prefer handling to outright power)? I think stock brakes and suspension will blow my mind away compared to a Vectra anyway but I would never think of leaving a Supra stock .

[hoff]

I dont get over into wrexham that often sorry matey. Though I'll be there sunday. Not in the supe though probably. Never know though.

 

Well all I would do to the brakes is to fit braided lines and good pads such as Chris Wilsons fast road pads. I didn't have the lines but had chris' pads and they alone where a great improvement. Should you want to go along the lines of NA-TT later on UK brakes would be a good call but are a lot new, though some come up on here now and then. But again the J-specs with the previous spec wont be too shabby.

 

Suspension depends on budget. You could get a set of coilovers for approx £600 or a decant set of lowering springs for £150. i just have springs and am quite happy, though should some decant coilovers be available obviously I'd go that way.

 

By the way, Chris Wilson is a trader on here from Whitchurch. He is a bit of a specialist and really knows his stuff. Top bloke too:)

[TonytotheB]

I just bought an NA. I love it. First powerful (relatively) car. My insurance with Adrian Flux is £1600 a year but I'm 27. I am going to get a TT in about 2/3 years but need experience of a RWD car first. Sky Insurance are the site's insurer and if you pay to become a member, you can advise them of that

 

BTW I originally came from Huyton in Knowlsey. Where are you from exactly?

 

Welcome mate

[pistonbroke]

Welcome to the forum mate. I was ready to jump on the **NA first bandwagon** with the others, but having read your comments, you do genuinely seem like a sensible young man (the fact that you're not speaking in TXT goes a long way). I would simply say go easy in the TT mate, they give the impression of sedate progressive power, then when you're not ready, it'll bite your head off. The stock traction control system is shocking so won't save you in your moment of need.

 

One thing I will add though, your budget will not get you a nice example TT. It'll probably be a bit of a money pit, (these cars are not cheap to run) and you'll be constantly throwing money at a car which isn't worth it from the start. My advice is spend the same money on an NA and you'll get a much cleaner example. Ultimately a car that won't set your hair on fire with performance, but looks the dogs. Providing the car you get has been looked after, it'll be uber reliable.

[ritter1]

Hi guys, again, thanks for all the welcomes .

 

First, TonytotheB, I'm actually from Liverpool, and more specifically, born in Tuebrook, live in Stoneycroft (don't know how much you know of this area though haha), not far from Huyton though, when I can drive, I can get to Huyton in say 10/15 minutes. Are you still in Huyton? That would explain the fact your insurance is as high as mine would be if I was in Wrexham. If I change the Wrexham address to my current one, well, an NA auto is closer to the £3k mark than the £2k one haha.

 

Thanks pistonbroke, I try my hardest not to talk in text (it is hard being surrounded by the typical '20 year old' though), although I often fall into the trap of forgetting grammar on forums, but then, after a long trip to uni and back and a hard day in uni, I kinda just rush my typing haha. I have read that the NA's are more reliable than the TT engines? I am guessing this could be true as a TT will often get more of a pounding and with more heat and pressure going through the systems, not surprising really. I think I could well go down the NA route, not because of insurance costs and running costs but because, as you have said, I could get a cleaner example. Afterall, I could probably get a manual NA for less insurance than an auto TT and I've heard a stripped manual NA can give an auto stock TT a run for it's money (in my opinion, the rear seats are pointless for someone over 6 foot, no rear leg room at all behind me I reckon so might as well come out as it would only ever be me in the car, maybe one passenger).

 

That doesn't seem too bad for the suspension hoff, lowering springs for my Vectra are around that price, and there is sports/racing coilovers (as hard as it is to believe they are out there for the Vectra B ) for even more than that, although I am guessing there are top end coilovers that run well into the thousands out there for the Supras.

[Abz]

Hello & welcome To the club.

 

What will be the main use for your car?

 

As I use my car normally at the weekend & still end up using over £200 a month on fuel alone.

[ritter1]

Thanks Abz, the main use would be literally a run of about 10 miles per day to uni and back (as I would be staying not far from the uni) if not less. Then, maybe the odd night-time cruise (who could resist?) and then every few months (mainly around Christmas, Summer, etc.) the 40 odd mile trip back to Liverpool, then back a few days/weeks later.

 

It wouldn't get anywhere near the use my Vectra does. That car does over 2000 miles per month and uses around £320 of fuel in that month, maybe more. I would actually be sad to sell it, I would get pennies for it, but I am proud of the work it does and the fact it is on 170k miles and still running perfect. If I could, I would keep it as well as the Supra as the main commuter but it won't happen.

 

For the Supra however, it would probably do less than 5000 miles per year, but yes, it would get used every day.

[Abz]

Thanks Abz, the main use would be literally a run of about 10 miles per day to uni and back (as I would be staying not far from the uni) if not less. Then, maybe the odd night-time cruise (who could resist?) and then every few months (mainly around Christmas, Summer, etc.) the 40 odd mile trip back to Liverpool, then back a few days/weeks later.

 

It wouldn't get anywhere near the use my Vectra does. That car does over 2000 miles per month and uses around £320 of fuel in that month, maybe more. I would actually be sad to sell it, I would get pennies for it, but I am proud of the work it does and the fact it is on 170k miles and still running perfect. If I could, I would keep it as well as the Supra as the main commuter but it won't happen.

 

For the Supra however, it would probably do less than 5000 miles per year, but yes, it would get used every day.

 

Think for everyday use the NA would be a better option, I am not too keen on using big engines for short journey's if I am honest as they do take longer to warm up, cool down & plus the added fuel costs. If you are happy with these then you should have no worries dude. They are brilliant cars & very robust for there age but you still need to understand a 15 year car will still need to have parts changed, so be prepared to fork out, i.e my crank pulley fell off this month (common problem) with other commitments this is the last thing I need & they are not cheap!

 

Take your time getting a good example & learn as much as you can.

[ritter1]

Thanks for the tips mate, hehe, no stranger to old cars here, late 80's to late 90's cars are the only way for me I think NA it is then, it' still a damn sight faster than my Vectra, and can spend money on getting it looking great and then NA-TT it in the future

[hadyn]

My old TT auto is going cheapish:

 

http://www.tbm-int.co.uk/stock_item/208

 

Just make sure you read this thread first:

 

http://mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=216225&highlight=test+drive

[Abz]

Thanks for the tips mate, hehe, no stranger to old cars here, late 80's to late 90's cars are the only way for me I think NA it is then, it' still a damn sight faster than my Vectra, and can spend money on getting it looking great and then NA-TT it in the future

 

Don't discount the NA because it does not have 2 turbo's, they are fantastic cars or Mr T would never have built them.

 

Good luck in your search, you sound mature enough.

[ritter1]

Thanks again Abz.

 

And that is a very nice car hadyn, but I would not have the money until around September/ October, and even then, I will be lucky to have £3k to spend and an old Vectra isn't worth much in p/x is it haha. I think this would be the reason to get an NA but I won't rule out a TT if I end up in the situation to get one.