Shane Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 Knew that would get your attention:) Since the Government relaxed the use of veg oil in cars the price has rocketed making it not really worth all the hassle. But for those who run a car on SVO they might want to get down to good old tescos as they have BOGOF on 3 litre bottles of veg oil and my local branch even had it stacked in boxes of 6 bottles making it much easier to handle in quantity. I bought 4 boxes this morning on the way to work, thats 72 litres for a little over £30. It all helps to make the Supra affordable when I can run my daily drive on less than 50p a litre. Will be going back this eve to see if they have any left but I guess at that price I will be very lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 You plan to run your Supra on veg oil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_vr6 Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 or possibly his corsa van Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest damo1 Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 You plan to run your Supra on veg oil? yeh im thinking the same i thought its only diesels that run on veg oil as veggi oil wont ignite with a naked flame its got to be a diesel and you need methanol mixed with it to make it work other wise it wont run proberly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 or possibly his corsa van Ah gotcha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_vr6 Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 ok now i must of missed the joke.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_vr6 Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcarrter21 Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 i run my 106 on it from tescos, got a pre-heating kit coming for the car soon so i can run it pure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attero Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 Does it smell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest damo1 Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 yeh like a fish and chip shop...BUT its actually alot better for your engine. hey did you read in newspaper last year a guy has invented an engine that runs off pure water i.e an icecube... and he set the icecube on fire and it didnt burn out. bcse ithe cube was h20 and and it produced its own oxygen BP paid the guy £250million for the blueprints, thats a fooking good deal as if he put it into production you would never need petrol or diesel and they only exhaust wud be condensation... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted May 14, 2010 Author Share Posted May 14, 2010 or possibly his corsa van Yep the Corsa, been running it in my second vehicle for over 5 years without issue, (isuzu engine though not the GM one) yeh im thinking the same i thought its only diesels that run on veg oil as veggi oil wont ignite with a naked flame its got to be a diesel and you need methanol mixed with it to make it work other wise it wont run proberly That is correct i run my 106 on it from tescos, got a pre-heating kit coming for the car soon so i can run it pure! Unless it's really warm I tend to thin it down a little with real deisel as on this car I have never got around to fitting the pre heater. The Isuzu 1.7 engine and pump will run on 100% but I cant help that pulling SVO through the filter when cold must be making the pump work way too hard and rather stay on the side of caution. When I was pre heating on the last car I had I used to run 100% most of the year. But of course it the cold thick oil thats in the pump when you first start that does the damage so it doesnt matter how much pre heating you apply the risk is always there. Thats why the fool proof method is to run a change over system with a small tank of diesel to purge the system with deisel so in the morning the pump has deisel in and not veg oil. Does it smell? Oh yes, smells nice though and much less unpleasant than deisel, but it does smell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attero Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 My brother ran a Ford Escort on vegetable oil before. Said it worked well. But it did smell. Didn't know if it was bad or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 Time to visit tesco then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackie Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 I used to run my pug xrtd on secondhand veg oil and diesel mix, Its alright in the short term but apparently the glysereen (Sp) rots the seals in the end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 My wifes got a cherokee sport diesel and ita a guzzler. Does that mean u can run a bit diesel and veg oil without harming the engine?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 not all fuel pumps can take veg oil, so be carefull I have a old sturdy Landcruiser 80 series, this thing goes on everything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted May 14, 2010 Author Share Posted May 14, 2010 My wifes got a cherokee sport diesel and ita a guzzler. Does that mean u can run a bit diesel and veg oil without harming the engine?? Do a bit of research on the net, there used to be a site that kept a running record of what engines had been proven to work/last and which didn't. I think the rule of thumb for european vehicles at least was that Lucas/CAV pumps did not like it up them and Bosch and Jap pumps were fine. There was also a web site with a pretty basic way of testing your engine, but it was a while ago that i was looking into it at this level so they may not be there anymore. I am sure someone out there has already experimented on the cherokee and reported back. Is it common rail or mechanical pump? I would imagine that you could at least run a mix in it even if not 100%, but like anything like this it's down to you and the risk you are prepared to take and research you are prepared to put into it. In 10°C plus temp a 50/50 mix would not be any less viscous than normal deisel is @ freezing point. not all fuel pumps can take veg oil, so be carefull I have a old sturdy Landcruiser 80 series, this thing goes on everything Yep, all the older style of Jap pumps are rated as the best for this sort of thing, also the Older Bosch as used on Mercs etc. I used to run a 3.2l Nissan Patrol which I could run on just about anything. In Romania I have a mate who grows sunflowers on a large plot of land just to extract the oil for use in his vehicle, The bees he keeps adjacent to the plot enjoy the sunflowers also:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted May 14, 2010 Author Share Posted May 14, 2010 I used to run my pug xrtd on secondhand veg oil and diesel mix, Its alright in the short term but apparently the glysereen (Sp) rots the seals in the end Yes that is true, it also damages any real rubber hoses in the fuel line, i.e. if there is a piece of soft hose as a transition between plastic and metal at the pump or tank, it makes them go all soft and gooey. But, this reckoned to be only after a prolonged period of use and occasional use of just diesel as a flush will prevent this from happening. The Isuzu engine I run at the moment has no such issues (that I can see at least)after 3 years and 70,000 miles but I do run just diesel in the colder months and when I cant be bothered to mess around with veg oil. So I guess thats what has saved mine from this problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
add heywood Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 Anyone ever run a 50/50 mix on a mk4 Transit 2.5? Or should I just google it and stop being lazy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_b Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 hey did you read in newspaper last year a guy has invented an engine that runs off pure water i.e an icecube... and he set the icecube on fire and it didnt burn out. bcse ithe cube was h20 and and it produced its own oxygen BP paid the guy £250million for the blueprints, thats a fooking good deal as if he put it into production you would never need petrol or diesel and they only exhaust wud be condensation... Sounds very dubious. I don't suppose you have more info to hand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted May 14, 2010 Author Share Posted May 14, 2010 Anyone ever run a 50/50 mix on a mk4 Transit 2.5? Or should I just google it and stop being lazy... I have a horrible feeling that they have Lucas/CAV pumps that are not reckoned to be the best for just chucking in SVO, but with simple mods (ie pre heat) or a mix will be fine. It's worth remembering also that if you pour cold thick oil into a tank of diesel it sinks straight to the bottom and gets sucked in as raw veg oil. I like to introduce the oil after a reasonable journey when what's in the tank already is warm to help it mix a little. After few miles of driving it all gets mixed anyhow but it's just that first hit that may do damage if your pump doesnt like it raw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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