So long Gordon, and thanks for all the fish

[mobius]

I remember the Thatcher times as well left school in 81, apprentaceship schemes scrapped, result no body knows how to fix anything now. At least now a ntional apprentaceship scheme has been brought in (labour)

 

Thatcher scrapped the national minimum wage people working for 75p an hour At least now minimum wage brought in (Labour), I wonder if the rise in this later in the year will go ahead now be interesting to find out.

 

Thatcher decamated the industrial base of the UK stating Britain should become a service economy (ie banking) look where that got us at least if we had manufacturing as well the banking crisis may not have affected us as bad as it did, all eggs in one basket come to mind

 

Interest rates of 15% my fixed of 5.19 ended a few months ago came down to 2.5% now saving £230 a month, be interesting to see how high it goes now.

 

Lib dems finished as far as I see it as any voter I know who voted for them is disgusted and will never vote for them again.

 

My tuppence worth any way:p

[AndrewOW]

What I haven't grasped yet is what happens to all the spare politicians, if you have a number of them all going after the same job and only one of them gets voted in what happens to all the rest? Do they carry on doing the same job or do they have to go and work in WHSmith for cider money?

 

 

I think all the 'redundant' ones end up at the Carphone Warehouse.

[tooquicktostop]

Unfortunately, I strongly believe we are far from the worst of the global financial crisis. There is a LOT worse to come.

 

I think Cameron screwed either way.:

- If he doesn't do enough to try and avoid a complete economic calamity, he's going to cop the blame.

- If he does do enough (huge cost cuts and massive tax hikes are needed - and sooner rather than later) he's going to be battling against a revolution that will rival the current situation in Greece.

 

Could not agree more, the new leader(s) are going to have to make some of the most dramatic decisions and changes we have seen for a long time if we are to shore up the economy, they will need to raise tax, cut spending and generally make themselves very unpopular to get things back on track, big question is can they survive this process or will Labour demand an election mid crisis and regain power

[Tony]

Shame, the older ones here remember what a f*cking mess the tories made last time, even worse now with a hint of gay libs

 

[RedM]

 

 

I cant remember which book it was I read in the early 70's by either Either Robert Hinline's Stranger in Strange Land or Arthur C Clark's Songs of Distant Earth, but gave a totally refreshing view of political selection. In the book anyone who had ever expressed a wish to have political power was automatically barred from entering politics as it was seen that they could not be trusted to act in the interests of society. I can't remember the exact process, but the leaders of the society were nominated by the people before election because they possessed specific attributes that suited them to the position. It may be a naive science fiction dream, but given recent political events, the method does have a certain appeal.

 

Holy crap! Someone else who has read that!! I've mentioned it a few times on here but thought I might have imagined the whole thing.

[Chris Wilson]

We are now in the early stages of another election. IMO Brown has been very canny. The Conservatives and the Lib Dems are, like WHOEVER gained power, now on a hiding to nothing, as all the placatory talk pre election has to now stop and the bull be taken by the horns. The unions will be up in arms over pay cuts, the workers will be striking, interest rates will go up, spending cuts HAVE to be made. The current incumbents of number 10 will be hamstrung with a flaky alliance, both blaming the other when something is unpopular or unworkable, with Labour sidelined and able to give both the Tories and the Lib Dems a hard time about everything, with no challenge to show what THEY would do in their place. As I have said may times before, the only hope for this debt ridden, sponger infested, and idle country is a right wing dictatorship or a mass catastrophe. I shudder to think where we go now.

 

The quote of the Lib Dems, pre election, when they were finally cornered on illegal immigration said it all for me. "Well, they are here now, what can you do?". They will have the same spineless response when illegal gypsy camps set up in your village, when dysfunctional families move into the house or flat next door and make your life hell, and when the teaching of your children is hampered, or brought down to the lowest common denominator by a disproportionate influx of none native speaking kids, with little or no willingness or aptitude to learn. The Tories have been bad enough, New Labour's "tough on crime" has been a total joke, with a plethora of proposed then hastily retracted, or indeed actually rubber stamped new laws, when nothing needed changing at all, only the existing ones upholding. Now we have potential civil war not only on the streets, but in the Commons, too. Fan bloody tastic

[Bobbeh]

it was brown who took away the FSAs control over the banks, allowing them to do whatever they wanted and the banks caused the financial meltdown.

 

Yeah, but the Tories would have done the exact same thing, they're as pro Banking/City if not more than Labour were.

 

But the problems the world is facing cannot be pinned on solely Brown as much as many people dislike the guy.. this country still likes to blame politicians for its own wreckless ways... and lack of responsibility, I mean national debt is ridiculously high and surely the people who borrow so much mush hold their hands up too as well as the government.

 

I wish Cameron good luck with our economy.

[michael]

[Thorin]

http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=109927&stc=1&d=1273651659

 

Look at those swirl marks, shocking.

[michael]

Look at those swirl marks, shocking.

 

This picture is more acceptable

[Bobbeh]

Very good Michael.

[GJD]

I pity him, I can't help thinking we'll look back on him as being acceptable enough in comparison to what's on the way.

 

Really? I thought he came across as a thoroughly dislikeable chap who thought he was better placed to make decisions about how I may live my life than I am.

 

F*** him and the horse he rode in on, and good riddance.

 

No idea whether his replacement(s) will be much better but I struggle to believe they could possibly be worse.

[michael]

No idea whether his replacement(s) will be much better but I struggle to believe they could possibly be worse.

 

Time will tell I guess.

[Purity14]

We are now in the early stages of another election. IMO Brown has been very canny. The Conservatives and the Lib Dems are, like WHOEVER gained power, now on a hiding to nothing, as all the placatory talk pre election has to now stop and the bull be taken by the horns. The unions will be up in arms over pay cuts, the workers will be striking, interest rates will go up, spending cuts HAVE to be made. The current incumbents of number 10 will be hamstrung with a flaky alliance, both blaming the other when something is unpopular or unworkable, with Labour sidelined and able to give both the Tories and the Lib Dems a hard time about everything, with no challenge to show what THEY would do in their place. As I have said may times before, the only hope for this debt ridden, sponger infested, and idle country is a right wing dictatorship or a mass catastrophe. I shudder to think where we go now.

 

The quote of the Lib Dems, pre election, when they were finally cornered on illegal immigration said it all for me. "Well, they are here now, what can you do?". They will have the same spineless response when illegal gypsy camps set up in your village, when dysfunctional families move into the house or flat next door, and when the teaching of your children is hampered or brought down to the lowest common denominator by a disproportionate influx of none native speaking kids with little or no willingness or aptitude to learn. The Tories have been bad enough, New Labour's "tough on crime" has been a total joke, with a plethora of proposed or actually stamped new laws when nothing needed changinge, only the existing ones upholding. Now we have potential civil war not only on the streets, but in the Commons, too. Fan bloody tastic

 

Just incase anyone missed reading this, CW is spot on there - I couldnt have worded it better myself. I agree with each and every word.

[Thorin]

I see it's now being nicknamed the Con-Dem Nation... time will tell I guess. So when do we reckon the next general election will be, 2 years? Can't see it being the full term.

[AndrewOW]

I see it's now being nicknamed the Con-Dem Nation... time will tell I guess. So when do we reckon the next general election will be, 2 years? Can't see it being the full term.

 

 

Do able?

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8677088.stm

[Chris Wilson]

Just incase anyone missed reading this, CW is spot on there - I couldnt have worded it better myself. I agree with each and every word.

 

Thank you, but when I am Dictator I am unable, by the very nature of the job, to form an alliance with you, but I will be kind to you

[Purity14]

Thank you, but when I am Dictator I am unable, by the very nature of the job, to form an alliance with you, but I will be kind to you

 

Thats cool, just make me the head of the Schutzstaffel and its a deal

[caseys]

Thank you, but when I am Dictator I am unable, by the very nature of the job, to form an alliance with you, but I will be kind to you

 

If you need to start up the Common Sense police, I'd be happy to enroll.

[tbourner]

I'm looking forward to living in condemnation, should be exciting.

[AndrewOW]

I'm looking forward to living in condemnation, should be exciting.

 

Yes, me too. I'm slightly optimistic about this, as long as they don't all kill each other!