jk136 Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 I know its not Supra related but I thought Id share what me and my brother were doing last weekend with you guys. Personally, feel like its a bit of an achievement what we did, hence why Id like to share it....the saying 'Built not Bought' comes to mind! So my brother owns a rather tasty Civic FN2 Type-R. Top spec model but he wanted more from it, so after trawling around on the forums he picked up the necessary bits for the build... Spec :- Comptech Engineering Stage 2 Supercharger RC650cc Injectors Greddy Sparkplugs TDI Headers Gruppe M Hondata Flashpro Hondata Thermal Gasket Red Samco Induction, Breather & Coolant Hoses Mugen Oil Cap Mugen Reservoir Socks Carbon Fibre Sparkplug Cover With him being particular about who works on his car and his theory on getting more pleasure out of the car knowing we done work ourselves on it, we decided to do the conversion to save money and to know it was done right. Dave decided on Romain (@ Artech) to do the mapping after hearing nothing but good things about his work & recommended him by James@Touge who he trust & have known very well for years and after a call to him he seemed really keen with a great knowledge of Hondas & generally a really friendly person. Day 1 Started on Saturday around midday (abit late in the day I know!) and after sending out a message to a few friends about starting the project, we was paid alot of visits which really didnt help get things done as we kept stopping to talk and catch up with friends. It must have looked like a scene out the fast and furious outside my house with various Jap machines turning up throughout the day (Supra, RX7, Supercharged Corolla, JDM EP3) I started off searching through boxes of parts.... Then we started working my way through the instructions (which were pretty good, explained everything pretty well) Suprisingly everything came apart really easily, the worst part of the job was removing all the bumper, grill, undertray and 1 bolt on the manifold which was just awkward to get to....everything else was easy. Some pics we snapped through the day..... So, end of day 1 we had the manifold on, injectors built up, plugs in & new plug cover & oil cap on and decided to call it a day as it was beer o'clock and had our mates waiting for us at the pub! Day 2 After a night on the beer and rolling in at silly o'clock we were surprisingly up again at 7.30 ready to get cracking.... the day started off looking very grey with a little bit of light rain then slowly started to get abit harder at which point we thought we should set the gazebo up and work through it, all good until the gazebo started leaking like a sieve and trying to take off when the worst weather ever hit..... After fighting trying to hold it down we decided we'd have to retire for a while so the gazebo was quickly pulled down and chucked in the garage and rain halted play for 3 or 4 hours, with time getting on and the weather still not changing we just decided that we had to get on as we wanted it ready for the next day to take to the BHP show. Armed with my mates trusty fishing umbrella we took it in turns to work whilst the other shielded you with the umbrella, luckily where we had got to meant there wasnt major amounts to do really, just getting the belt on and tensioned and then piping up and and putting all the little bits on. Engine was all buttoned up and ready for reflash by 9pm, so Dave jumped in and put on the Jackson Racing Supercharger basemap from the Hondata Flashpro as the Comtech S/C basemap wasnt set for the 650cc injectors. Uploading.... Once all the base map was loaded on and everything checked over 1 last time it was time to prime the fuel rail and fire it up.....I think Daves heart was going a million miles an hour as although I trusted our work, we still wasnt 100% on the map and if it was gonna be ok, anyway started her up for the first time at 9.15pm and checked all the readings on Flashpro manager and everything seemed good due to the time though it was just left idling and checking for leaks etc then that was it for day 2. Day 3 - D Day Day 3 started with a 6.30 wake up call from me trying to get Dave to get up and get all the bumper, grill and everything back on so we could take it out today to the show....being a sucker for peer pressure he agreed and by 7.30 it was ready to go. The morning of the test run..... Using the Jackson Racing base map on the Flashpro I wasnt totally sure how it would go so took it nice and gentle slowly using abit more of the revs as time went on but happy to say it didnt miss a beat. Here she is finished.... Dave got it booked in for mapping with Artech/Eurospec 2000 on Thursday which was great considering her rang them Tuesday at 4pm! Romain at Artech started off checking the base map and said it was running ok & safe but wasn't ideal to do to much on it as it was quite near the limits. He then spent about 2-3 hours locked away in the dyno doing run after run making slight alterations to see what works and what didnt, all the time I was in the waiting room watching through the windows and on the screen showing everything he was seeing on his screen....I couldnt take my eyes off it. The room did have a stack of Jap mags and TV with DVD and PS2 yet I found it more interesting watching graphs. Start of tuning....only going to 6k to check fueling etc. Showing some alterations being made.... Then winding up the revs more..... Once he finished the mapping he had got it 235.5bhp at the wheels which worked out to 279.4bhp at the flywheel with a rev limit of 8200rpm, but after mentioning the rev limit on the group N map he changed it for me and upped it to 8500-8600rpm which would have definatly put it over 280bhp mark. Romain did say at the start before mapping that he found that if Dave was chasing high numbers, the dyno dynamics rollers werent the best for it as he found they often gave a lower reading than alot of other places but for mapping they done the job fine and as long as its running ok and safe then Dave can always go to a few others and see what figures they give him compared to that set. Once it was off the rollers Romain asked Dave to take him out for a test drive to make sure he was happy with it and so he could do some datalogging on the road, once we got on a nice empty straight he gave it abit and he said he was well impressed with how quick it was and said it definatly felt quicker than the 280bhp readout it had got. Also forgot to mention the headers were actually blowing too where they bolt onto the block but we didnt have time to fix this before the mapping so it could have lost a slight bit of power on that. Dave first opinions after getting it all mapped properly was that it was awesome!!! With it fitted, you can drive normally and not really tell its there but when you want to go theres no need to drop it down a gear or two its just power instantly. So now onto the next stages on the CTR mod list :- Brakes Lowering Fast Road Setup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecoup Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 very nice any idea what the conversion cost all in ? post some vid for the whine please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jk136 Posted May 10, 2010 Author Share Posted May 10, 2010 very nice any idea what the conversion cost all in ? post some vid for the whine please Some parts he bought were new and other used. I think in total he paid just under 3k all in! Not bad at all to be honest. Ill do a video tonight and post it up soon as I can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbleapple Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 Some parts he bought were new and other used. I think in total he paid just under 3k all in! Not bad at all to be honest. Ill do a video tonight and post it up soon as I can I have an FN2 and love it. Real little monster and the VTEC noise is nice.... did he notice a big difference in performance? Edit: I get 24mpg taking it easy.... would love to know what he gets now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jk136 Posted May 10, 2010 Author Share Posted May 10, 2010 I have an FN2 and love it. Real little monster and the VTEC noise is nice.... did he notice a big difference in performance? Edit: I get 24mpg taking it easy.... would love to know what he gets now Are you on any of the civic forums at all? Civinfo? Hes on there and a few others. He was getting 30mpg with mixed driving before hand so dunno why yours is so low. Hes still testing his at the mo but so far 200 miles and its still showing about 1/4 of a tank left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benyon Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 I made one of them....... In forza 3:p Does it have that crazy supercharger sound then? I bet it sounds crazy with the Vtec. Any vids yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbleapple Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 Are you on any of the civic forums at all? Civinfo? Hes on there and a few others. He was getting 30mpg with mixed driving before hand so dunno why yours is so low. Hes still testing his at the mo but so far 200 miles and its still showing about 1/4 of a tank left. I was on but to be honest the forum doesn't appear to have the same 'community' feel as this place. I am amazed he was getting 30's. From what I read on the forums no one else seems any better or worse than me. I love the look of his btw. Mine would be identical (Rage alloys, red etc) but he has the black splitter. The civic is my car not my passion, I get married next month and then I will be looking for a Supra again Saying that though the FN2 would leave my old N/A standing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jk136 Posted May 10, 2010 Author Share Posted May 10, 2010 Ohh yeah, supercharger whine sounds awesome! No vids as of yet, the manifolds still blowing at the mo so when on heavy boost you can hear it and sounds rough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Josh Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 Sounds good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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