Chris Wilson Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 Halon (BCF, usually green bodied) fire extinguisher wanted, small to medium size for in vehicle usage. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 thought halon was illegal , i know when i was fabricating they were all removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelfill Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 I believe it can still be used in very specialist applications where other fire extinguishers would not be appropriate. But generally yes it's considered a very nasty chemical, and is banned due to it being an ozone depletant. Exceptions for Usage of Halon Fire Extinguishers There are only three main exceptions for Halon fire extinguisher usage; in aircraft, military use including vehicles and fuel installations, and in the Channel Tunnel. So, don't worry if you spot a green Halon fire extinguisher on an airplane - it's allowed to be there! Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 http://www.fireprotectiononline.co.uk/news/3/Whatever-Happened-To-Halon-Fire-Extinguishers.html co2 or dry powder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted May 10, 2010 Author Share Posted May 10, 2010 It might be illegal, but the stuff is SO much better than the new rubbish I'll risk it There must be loads of these around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelfill Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 There may be some around somewhere, but most won't have been serviced in a very long time, would you want to put your trust in an extinguisher when you won't know if it works until you need it? At the very least keep a CO2 as a back up. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted May 10, 2010 Author Share Posted May 10, 2010 Just for hand held usage, those in the know berate the MSA for sanctioning lesser extinguishants year on year in a placation of the Greens. I have a smallish Halon hand held, would like something beefier to take out for testing purposes, "just in case" Thanks Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 chris it is a health and safety issue , it works on removing the oxygen from the triangle . triangle being oxygen /heat/fuel , remove any of those and you dont have a fire . but removing the oxygen is classed as a health and safety issue due to the fact you need to breathe , so even basic fires you dont really want to get BA when theres others that will do the job never risk your health mate . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerikbok Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 I know a couple of the jet mechanics on my base got sprayed with this accidentally (although it probably saved them from massive burns) when something caught fire when doing emergency repairs. I was in the emergency room with them and alot of the EKG's registered them as legally dead, or having multiple consecutive heart attacks and all of them experienced tachycardia and eurythmia for some time after. Not to say it isn't extremely effective when standard extinguishers can't be used. However, it should be handled by professionals I.E. Fire department Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 Inergen replaced Halon, but I believe it's only available as part of building fire suppression systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted May 11, 2010 Author Share Posted May 11, 2010 It's not for a plumbed in system, just as a hand held in case of underbonnet fire et cetera. It's till the most effective automotive extinguishant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 It's not for a plumbed in system, just as a hand held in case of underbonnet fire et cetera. It's till the most effective automotive extinguishant. A quick search seems to suggest the replacement would be "FE-36" http://www.fireextinguisherguide.co.uk/2008/08/04/fe-36-clean-agent/ "not yet widely available in the UK and Europe, these extinguishers are used in medical facilities across the USA" "In the UK Today Motorsport participants might also be interested in the Zero 360, an FE-36 extinguisher especially for high performance racing and rally cars from Lifeline." ...but they look like plumbed in systems only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted May 11, 2010 Author Share Posted May 11, 2010 Zero 360 is the *rap the MSA have palmed us off with for green reasons, it's nothing like as good. I am not green, nor do I want myself or my car to be charcoal coloured due to second rate extinguishants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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