Homer Posted May 10, 2010 Author Share Posted May 10, 2010 Thanks once again Scott, I'd started to looking into a way of tricking it but then got the call from Gav he had a spare one to test with so gave up Good info anyway, but would be a bit worried hotwiring a 600watt supply That has potential for a lot of things to go wrong! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 Meh thats what insurance is for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted May 12, 2010 Author Share Posted May 12, 2010 Gav was kind enough to lend me his power supply However, still the same No beeps, nothing other than the fans coming on. Also tried another speaker. Tried the suggestions Scott made and removed everything from the board, but same yet again. So, this can surely only be a faulty motherboard, can't it? Anyone got recommendations for a replacement board? This one cost something like £120 and only lasted 12 months, so only want a cheap one this time round. Needs to support PC8500 (1066MHz) dual channel ram and have one IDE HDD connector.Oh and socket 775. Had a search and there seems to be a big price range on them, but none are too cheap! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted May 12, 2010 Share Posted May 12, 2010 Motherboard bud, kinda thought that is what it would be to be honest. When the power packs go they normally completely die, I've never seen one do what yours did but I know it does happen. I'd go with this. Looks cracking for the cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseys Posted May 12, 2010 Share Posted May 12, 2010 Gav was kind enough to lend me his power supply However, still the same No beeps, nothing other than the fans coming on. Also tried another speaker. Tried the suggestions Scott made and removed everything from the board, but same yet again. So, this can surely only be a faulty motherboard, can't it? Anyone got recommendations for a replacement board? This one cost something like £120 and only lasted 12 months, so only want a cheap one this time round. Needs to support PC8500 (1066MHz) dual channel ram and have one IDE HDD connector.Oh and socket 775. Had a search and there seems to be a big price range on them, but none are too cheap! Got the receipt for the mobo? You're covered by EU law for 3-6 years Homer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted May 12, 2010 Author Share Posted May 12, 2010 I'd go with this. Looks cracking for the cash. That looks spot on, better chipset than the current one and price looks more like it, thanks Got the receipt for the mobo? You're covered by EU law for 3-6 years Homer... I bought it from Ebuyer, but would have thrown the receipt away a long time ago! Still got the original box and documents, just no receipt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted May 12, 2010 Share Posted May 12, 2010 You will still have a case if you want to pursue it. You will have an electronic invoice on your account, maybe give them a call. You are within your rights anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseys Posted May 12, 2010 Share Posted May 12, 2010 I bought it from Ebuyer, but would have thrown the receipt away a long time ago! Still got the original box and documents, just no receipt. As Scott said you should have purchase history with eBuyer so no problem there. You're covered by the EU Sale of goods act which gives 3+ years consumer rights to either repair or replacement if it's not damaged (as electronic equipment in the EU is deemed to be required to have a life of at least 3 years) and this motherboard hasn't, unless your PSU spiked and shafted it. See this thread http://mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=192870&highlight=sale+goods+act Post 9 gives details of the act, and post 60 is the proof A few months ago I even got my PS3 which was 32+ months old replaced by Game for absolutely nothing. And no, I didn't have the extended warranty (they're pointless bar for accidental damage cover) Even if you go out and buy another mobo for the moment, get this one either fixed or replaced (or even better refunded) and then you can sell it on or have a potential spare... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted May 12, 2010 Author Share Posted May 12, 2010 Thanks Simon, that's a bit of an eye opener! For now I just need to get the darn thing working again, so will get a new mobo, but will certainly persue getting a replacement for the old board as it's supposed to be quite a good one. In the mean time, what do you guys think of this? I'm so out of touch with hardware these days so not sure what 's good and what's crap! http://www.ebuyer.com/product/174312 It's the G41 chipset rather than the P35/P43 (not sure how much difference that actually makes), but is the cheapest one that supports 1066Mhz ram with OC'ing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 Ebuyer will swap damaged MB for a new one without any problems at all. Done it twice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted May 13, 2010 Author Share Posted May 13, 2010 Ebuyer will swap damaged MB for a new one without any problems at all. Done it twice How quick where they replacing it Konrad? Looking back at the dates I bought mine 17 months ago, not 12, so not sure if their generic 1 year warranty will cover dealing with them direct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 How quick where they replacing it Konrad? Looking back at the dates I bought mine 17 months ago, not 12, so not sure if their generic 1 year warranty will cover dealing with them direct. It took them around 1 week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 I don't rate asrock but I guess it will tide you over ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamanC Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 In the mean time, what do you guys think of this? I'm so out of touch with hardware these days so not sure what 's good and what's crap! http://www.ebuyer.com/product/174312 It's the G41 chipset rather than the P35/P43 (not sure how much difference that actually makes), but is the cheapest one that supports 1066Mhz ram with OC'ing. I wouldn't touch asrock with yours Go for the one scott posted, unless you want raid: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/170220 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted May 14, 2010 Author Share Posted May 14, 2010 All sorted (well mostly!). Replaced the motherboard with the one Scott mentioned and it works again Only problem is one of the sticks of RAM is now faulty, guess that went pop the same the time motherboard did. So now running on only 1GB. Thanks everyone for your help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 At least you found the problem. Did you have any luck getting it replaced under warranty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted May 15, 2010 Author Share Posted May 15, 2010 At least you found the problem. Did you have any luck getting it replaced under warranty? Not started that yet, as in the mean time the problems continue! The PC was running fine yesterday on just the single remaining stick of RAM, but today blue screened again with a "PAGED FAULT IN NON PAGED AREA" (memory error). Ran the diagnostics again and now this stick is reporting hardware faults too. It was set to run at 1066Mhz so changed this in the BIOS to force 800MHz, sure enough it booted fine, memory diag ran perfectly. Stuck the 2nd stick back in and again it booted fine with the pair at 800Mhz, ran the memory diag and no hardware faults reported. So, I have my 2GB back working, but it will only run 800MHz, but blue screen at 1066Mhz with a memory error. The memory is "Corsair Dominator CM2X1024-8500C5D 1066MHz 5-5-5-15, 2.10v". Tried ramping up the voltage manually in the BIOS to 2.10v (as it defaults to 1.85v) but doing that causes an immediate memory error. Any ideas where to go from here? I can put up with the lower speed, but suspect there's something else I'm missing here...! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Have you tried varying voltages? I've only ever messed around with the timings and voltages when trying to overclock the ram/processor. I don't recall any times that I have had issues at the stock levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted July 11, 2010 Author Share Posted July 11, 2010 UPDATE: FFS, it's happened again Just installing a new HDD, only removed the RAM to get the drive into the bay, tried to boot and same thing as before - power is working to the mainboard, but nothing starts, no beeps (as it normally does when starting) So, another mainboard is needed, but any ideas on the route cause? I'm using a static strap, so can rule out static problems. Could this be a grounding issue on the board? Memory problem? Power supply issue? Any ideas welcome... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branners Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 lack of cooling frying the mobo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted July 11, 2010 Author Share Posted July 11, 2010 There's plenty of cooling, I'm pretty confident that can be ruled out. Plus this time it's been switched off for a few days and had only been on for a few minutes beforehand. Any ideas on what mainboard to buy now? The I bought last isn't available any longer... prefer something CHEAP, but will do the job. Just incase it fries again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo2810 Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 You could have a faulty USB component. Damaged USB cable is more then capable of destroying a mobo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted July 11, 2010 Author Share Posted July 11, 2010 Good thought, When I restarted it the only USB connected was the wireless mouse thingamajig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseys Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 Got it on a surge protector? Have many bulbs etc pop in your house? Could be that you have a lumpy supply to the psu possibly Checked all gasket-esq bits/washers that secure the mono to the plate? Also usual stuff - no bare wires, no dust bunnies? I assume your psu as well as the mobo are rated totals th power / supply the power to all cards, HDDs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted July 11, 2010 Author Share Posted July 11, 2010 Got it on a surge protector? Have many bulbs etc pop in your house? Could be that you have a lumpy supply to the psu possibly - Power supply in the house is not the best in the room where the PC is. Good thought, there is a very small surge protector on the power strip to the PC. Checked all gasket-esq bits/washers that secure the mono to the plate? - Checked when re-installing last time, all are good. Also usual stuff - no bare wires, no dust bunnies? - Nope, checked and cleaned before installing the new board in May I assume your psu as well as the mobo are rated totals th power / supply the power to all cards, HDDs? - Yes, it's mouch more than enough, the power suply needed on the reboot was much less than normal as there was one less HDD Thanks Caseys, replies above. Power surge is a real possibilty, hadn't thought of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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