The bikers have been out protesting fuel prices.

[Miguel]

http://www.petrolprices.com/images/petrol-prices-140410.jpg

 

What to do about it, simple, get the entire driving population to stop buying petrol for a couple of days each week; impacting profits is always a good way to get a message across - vote with your wallets. The likelihood of ever getting this to happen though is slim, as unfortunately Abz you are correct, people can't be bothered. Rolling blockages really don't achieve much other than some irritation due to not having enough of a following, and you're still using petrol

[hogmaw]

rolling road blocks in the week on the m25 1 in each direction starting just before the morning rush hour

 

One way to piss everyone off and it won't be the government

[hogmaw]

The tax on fuel is there cos the government need the cash. So if they reduce the tax, they will have to put in on something else. What? After the election a lot of things will go UP and there WILL be a lot of cuts, regardless who gets in power. Brace yourselves...

[Abz]

http://www.petrolprices.com/images/petrol-prices-140410.jpg

 

What to do about it, simple, get the entire driving population to stop buying petrol for a couple of days each week; impacting profits is always a good way to get a message across - vote with your wallets. The likelihood of ever getting this to happen though is slim, as unfortunately Abz you are correct, people can't be bothered. Rolling blockages really don't achieve much other than some irritation due to not having enough of a following, and you're still using petrol

 

Very good explanation of the tax's involved in a litre.

 

It is a shame because I think we could make a difference with some effort.

[supragold]

Pisses me off because my business is running a fleet of 80 Hiab Lorries. 1p increase alone costs my company an EXTRA £100 per day. Since the beginning of February this year bulk diesel has increased by 10p. Doesn't take alot to figure out. So within only a few months our fuel bill costs a grand a day more! EVERYDAY! £30k a month etc etc. Its not like we can just wack our prices up either because we are in the middle of a recession and the most competitive era in years! I'm all up for protesting in some way but like said all these convoys do is piss other people off and not the right people. So how do we do something that actually shows them we've had enough??

[Abz]

Pisses me off because my business is running a fleet of 80 Hiab Lorries. 1p increase alone costs my company an EXTRA £100 per day. Since the beginning of February this year bulk diesel has increased by 10p. Doesn't take alot to figure out. So within only a few months our fuel bill costs a grand a day more! EVERYDAY! £30k a month etc etc. Its not like we can just wack our prices up either because we are in the middle of a recession and the most competitive era in years! I'm all up for protesting in some way but like said all these convoys do is piss other people off and not the right people. So how do we do something that actually shows them we've had enough??

 

Wow, I really feel for you! That is just outrages!

[RiceRocket]

Indeed, BP only recently recorded record profits of double their previous year, but apparently its nothing to do with pump prices, I am not convinced.

 

Oil prices have doubled though - graph

 

Yearly petrol prices graph

[SupraAyf]

Oil prices have doubled though

 

............which may have something to do with the artificial control of the oil production levels by OPEC and other O&G conglomerates!!

[dangerous brain]

Pisses me off because my business is running a fleet of 80 Hiab Lorries. 1p increase alone costs my company an EXTRA £100 per day. Since the beginning of February this year bulk diesel has increased by 10p. Doesn't take alot to figure out. So within only a few months our fuel bill costs a grand a day more! EVERYDAY! £30k a month etc etc. Its not like we can just wack our prices up either because we are in the middle of a recession and the most competitive era in years! I'm all up for protesting in some way but like said all these convoys do is piss other people off and not the right people. So how do we do something that actually shows them we've had enough??

 

Vote the useless pr*cks out then!! There is a general election in a few days. How many of us will bother to vote? Not many I hazard. Voting for a non mainstream party might seem frivolous and in some cases extreme but if the masses that are fed up with sh*te No. 1's at christmas can do something about that than maybe Joe average voter motorist could between us make up a government. It wouldn't even have to last more than a week. It would however bloody the nose enough for the mainstreamers to have no choice but to incorporate significant fuel cost changes to their manifesto's. Organise your vote in a massive facebook campaign, and use it with conviction.

[stevie_b]

What to do about it, simple, get the entire driving population to stop buying petrol for a couple of days each week; impacting profits is always a good way to get a message across - vote with your wallets. The likelihood of ever getting this to happen though is slim, as unfortunately Abz you are correct, people can't be bothered. Rolling blockages really don't achieve much other than some irritation due to not having enough of a following, and you're still using petrol

 

Even if every driver in the country stopped buying petrol for 2 days, it wouldn't affect the oil companies: at the end of the 2 day boycott there would be a wave of demand that would make up for the postponed sales during the 2 days. People would need to stop buying petrol, full stop.

 

I agree with the rest of your post though, especially your last sentence.

[Tony]

I think the protest should be aimed at the goverment to cut the tax on fuel at by 50% at least, but you wont do it! because the people of this country wont stick together for 1 day let alone 2:search: Oh before anyone say's how will we replace the lost money's, we stop giving foriegn aid.

[formatzero]

The tax on fuel is there cos the government need the cash. So if they reduce the tax, they will have to put in on something else. What? After the election a lot of things will go UP and there WILL be a lot of cuts, regardless who gets in power. Brace yourselves...

 

This is indeed the crux of the matter,reduce fuel tax where do you raise the cash from.When gordon tried to take the arabs to task about fuel costs they told him to cut the tax on it.While we continue to fund wars,bail out banks, the easy place to get cash for the goverment is the bank of you and i my friends.Incidently i seem to remember reading that the social security and benefits costs to the country are nearly five times the defence budget

[Tony]

This is indeed the crux of the matter,reduce fuel tax where do you raise the cash from.When gordon tried to take the arabs to task about fuel costs they told him to cut the tax on it.While we continue to fund wars,bail out banks, the easy place to get cash for the goverment is the bank of you and i my friends.Incidently i seem to remember reading that the social security and benefits costs to the country are nearly five times the defence budget

 

As i said cut foriegn aid to zero & stop giving the eu million's for there bullsh** green aid to china & india

[adnanshah247]

guys, i drive a hell of a lot, yesterday night, i pulled into a BP and filled at £1.26 a litre, i mean wtf, as the £'s increased at the pump so did my blood pressure. £30 gave me 23 litres!

 

had petrol been the more sensible 85p a litre, i for my £30 would have got 35 litres, thats a difference of fuukin 12 litres!!! over two damn gallons!

 

ive been waiting and dreaming for ages now to get my new sup within then next month or so but honestly speaking these petrol prices are damaging and i may need to think twice!

[Dnk]

Welcome to poverty rock

[Abz]

If we could use LPG on our Supra's I would as I believe LPG is cheaper & taxed less?

 

Though don't want to run the risks of running LPG on my TT.

 

If it was a newer can then I would be more interested but with the age & mileage I am not so sure.

[Dnk]

If we could use LPG on our Supra's I would as I believe LPG is cheaper & taxed less?

 

Though don't want to run the risks of running LPG on my TT.

 

If it was a newer can then I would be more interested but with the age & mileage I am not so sure.

 

 

You can use it but the issue is where to fit the tank in a big enough size to make it worth doing, also how long it stays cheaper for is anyones guess.

 

I used to use it a few years ago and it was around 23p per litre as the tax on it was frozen for 5 years if i remeber correctly, its now around 58p per litre depending on where you get it from.

[Miguel]

This is indeed the crux of the matter,reduce fuel tax where do you raise the cash from.

 

By cutting out the, quite frankly, frivolous spending. The current government is like a teenager with a credit card that keeps going to mommy to pay it off! Any decent business would cut its spenditure before asking for a loan. The UK has been living beyond its means for a very long while, yet it still haemorrhages our money on needless foreign causes. I always thought it was best to sort out your own house before sticking your nose in others, but hey ho.

[Sakey]

The price of petrol in asda in Rochdale has dropped from 1.19 to 1.17 when I filled up today

 

Might be a sign..... (doute it very much! )

[monsween]

I really wouldnt use asda fuel :S. Its nasty stuff

[Purity14]

1.17 Sainsburys yesterday in Manchester.

The joke is, I kind of got excited and took my opportunity to fill up.

[JS2004]

I would be interested to see some chart listing the amount of money the government has lost from cigarette sales now that nobody can smoke in a pub etc compared to how much they have compensated for it by fuel tax.

 

Im a non smoker but know lots of people who cut down heavily, or stopped going to the pubs as much because of this. So that must be a loss of cash which they need to make elsewhere.

 

But were a captive audience, the same way the cinema or in-flight carts can charge heavily inflated prices for normal stuff - its not a case of people being able to suddenly decide not to drive anywhere.

[Ewen]

I filled up @ 128.5p / litre on saturday, 126.8p today. Prices are falling !

[stevie_b]

I would be interested to see some chart listing the amount of money the government has lost from cigarette sales now that nobody can smoke in a pub etc compared to how much they have compensated for it by fuel tax.

 

Im a non smoker but know lots of people who cut down heavily, or stopped going to the pubs as much because of this. So that must be a loss of cash which they need to make elsewhere.

 

But were a captive audience, the same way the cinema or in-flight carts can charge heavily inflated prices for normal stuff - its not a case of people being able to suddenly decide not to drive anywhere.

 

Loss of revenue from tobacco tax would be offset by lower oncology costs in the NHS. I don't know if these costs are close to balancing each other out: I wouldn't even like to guess the relative orders of magnitude of the two sums of money. I read something in the paper recently about the NHS spending more on cancer treatment than ther govt collects in tobacco tax. Not all instances of cancer are caused by smoking of course, and you know what they say about statistics....

[stevie_b]

I really wouldnt use asda fuel :S. Its nasty stuff

Why is this? I'm genuinely interested.