Pudsey Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 (edited) Can somebody answer me a question that I cannot seem to find the answer too. When you install the Race Logic does any of the fuel injector wires need to go to specific injectors. Or is it okay as long as it picks up any signal wire to the injectors? On the wheel sensor connection front...... There seems to be some differences with the abs sensor wires too. I have researched the diagrams and threads and have found one set that I believe match my wire colours except for one? One thing that isn't specified though however.... Do the abs sensors have to go to particular wires in the Race Logic, or can it go to any? Any help will be great. My car is a 1998 VVT-i auto tiptronic. Many Thanks Edited April 28, 2010 by Pudsey (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 (edited) Injector wires should be matched to RL it is in the diagram. ABS sensor wires don't matter as the configuration drive or spinning wheels by hand will either allocate or identify which ABS sensor is which. Just seen you have a VVTI I am not certain but I don't think the injector wires are the same colour or linked to the same ECU pins as the non VVTI. Edited April 28, 2010 by Terminator (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pudsey Posted April 28, 2010 Author Share Posted April 28, 2010 (edited) Injector wires should be matched to RL it is in the diagram. ABS sensor wires don't matter as the configuration drive or spinning wheels by hand will either allocate or identify which ABS sensor is which. Thanks for getting back to me. I don't see where the injectors are matched to any specific signal wire. I know that which ever one you choose has to be linked with the correct one coming out of the Racelogic, but I am not sure if for example if. Race logic (Red wire) ----> Injector 1 (Red/ Blue wire)------> Race logic (Red with black wire) ----------> back into the signal wire for Injector 1 (Red/Blue wire). And so on..... What I am not sure of is does each wire have to have a specific injector wired to it, or can you choose any as long as you match them in and out? Thanks Please see this: - http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?p=2740569#post2740569 I found out that mine is the same as 'Nicky Boys', posted in wrong place though sorry. (NB: Only thing with this one , is I don't have a 'white' wire that he refers too only a 'yellow off' colour). and my injector colours match the ones found in the following post 12 Ian C: - http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=35919&highlight=ecu+pin Edited April 28, 2010 by Pudsey (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 It has been a while since I fitted a system, but I think there will be a channel dedicated to each individual injector. I have searched but can't find my old rltc wiring diagram. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pudsey Posted April 28, 2010 Author Share Posted April 28, 2010 It has been a while since I fitted a system, but I think there will be a channel dedicated to each individual injector. I have searched but can't find my old rltc wiring diagram. Ah thanks for looking..... This is what isn't clear see, and I dont want to mess it up. The only other thing that isn't quiet right is I have no 'white wire' thinking it was heading to number 3 on 'Nicky Boys' write up, mine is definately a off yellow colour? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pudsey Posted April 28, 2010 Author Share Posted April 28, 2010 Can anybody recommend a R232 Cable to usb adaptor that actually works? I will need this to connect my racelogic to the pc, I know some can be problematic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 (edited) Here's my old docco for wiring up RLTC. Obviously the ECU Pin numbers and colours won't be correct for VVTi, but it shows you which wires and what colours they are to connect things to on the RLTC unit. You have to cut the injector wires on the wiring loom, so the table shows if you connect to the end of the wire going to the ECU plug (ECU Side), or the end disappearing off into the main engine wiring loom (Loom side). -Ian Edited April 29, 2010 by Ian C (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pudsey Posted April 29, 2010 Author Share Posted April 29, 2010 Here's my old docco for wiring up RLTC. Obviously the ECU Pin numbers and colours won't be correct for VVTi, but it shows you which wires and what colours they are to connect things to on the RLTC unit. You have to cut the injector wires on the wiring loom, so the table shows if you connect to the end of the wire going to the ECU plug (ECU Side), or the end disappearing off into the main engine wiring loom (Loom side). -Ian Thanks Ian, And a big thankyou for producing the other excel file that matches my wiring, was a little worried until I scrolled down and found your file. Great work indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pudsey Posted April 29, 2010 Author Share Posted April 29, 2010 (edited) Apologies all for again replying in the FAQ's section, forgot where I was Mod's please tidy up if you could thanks. I have just found this information which looks priceless in an old thread, linked to Supraforums for VVT-I owners: - http://www.supraforums.co.uk/vbb/showpost.php?p=2073483&postcount=13 Tracing some of the wires it actually details a 'Creamy White' wire, in all honesty didn't think mine had faded as they look like brand new. Only thing I can't see in there is the ABS wiring diagram. Great find though, and really great of someone somewhere to post the diagrams up. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Update: - ABS..... Just found the ABS Too, it is on the diagram. Wires are detailed as follows: - Orange = ABS Blue/ Orange = Front Left Wheel Sensor Yellow/ Red = Front Right Wheel Sensor Purple/ White = Rear Left Wheel Sensor Grey/ Red = Rear Right Wheel Sensor As soon as I can I will try and install this after work tomorrow, and see what happens. I just don't have a R232 Cable to be able to plug my laptop into though, so hope I don't need it? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Update: - Just also spotted on the diagram the following in the top right hand corner: - *1 except S-ABS *2: S-ABS These show two differing PIN numbers based on what type you have I guess? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Update: - Ah ha..... Light bulb moment...... The difference between the two above ie (*1 & *2) is 'P' and 'R' plugs, and there is the problem solved reference the 11 pin plug and the 13 pin plug as previously mentioned in the 'Nasty Boy' thread. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Update: - The plot thickens too as I have just spotted that if you have the (*1) version there are two plugs and the ABS wires are split. Thought it was strange that the diagram labelled two wires as No 6, but if you look carefully you will see 4 wires go to plug 'P', and there is a single wire again called No 6 and that goes to plug 'q'. The plugs are named on the wiring diagram as being 'Creamy White' so that explains the wire colour too. Hope this come in very helpful for others as it certainly has for me. Edited April 29, 2010 by Pudsey (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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