BNP launching their 'manifesto' on BBC News

[marbleapple]

In principle this is correct. Perhaps, rather sadly, the job will only be done after a couple of hundred years or something? Or never.

 

Didn't think it was an issue about being correct my friend. Its my view not yours I agree with your comment though although I look at Ireland and note that it is a lot better than it was. I hope the other places go like that.

 

What I think we need is a non racist right wing policy party. I.e. pro British but pro the people.

[Dyer864]

In principle this is correct.

 

Perhaps, rather sadly, the job will only be done after a couple of hundred years or something?

 

Or never.

 

Totally agree sadly ,

[Lbm]

I'm going to vote for Carl S...who's with me?

 

 

 

 

 

...anybody?

[Fitz]

I'm going to vote for Carl S...who's with me?

 

 

 

 

 

...anybody?

 

Go on then +1

[formatzero]

I'm voting for the party who will finaly admit there are too many people in this country immigrant or otherwise.We are told there are too many cars on the road,too much unemployment,too many people needing n.h.s care,too many people on benefits,too many people needing houses,yup just too many people,dont know what any party can do about it,

[Tourniquet]

My tuppence worth:

 

All politicians are lying corrupt c4nts

 

All religion is pathetic and religious people are rediculous

 

England should be British first and formost because we were once a hard brutal country but now we are as wet as an otters pocket

 

Criminals should lose their human rights till after they have served the sentences which should be the sentence they were handed and these should fit the crime and not be the laughable versions they are.

 

Foreign criminals should be deported - for those likely to be tortured on return to their own country - tough shit they should have tried to be nicer in their host country.

 

Prison ships to ease over crowding (although losing foregn criminals will help ease the problem anyway) and prisons turned back into prisons not Butlins holiday camps - something with hard labour such as America's tent city where they have to do the shitty jobs in a chain gang in public.

 

Gang member twats and others caught with knives and guns given a minimum 10 year sentence as promised on said ships

 

Capital punishment for the worse crimes i.e peado's, murderers and those committing treason such as the mental musi's that get off on H.E and P.E.

 

Proper discipline in school with no fear of come back in the hope to sort the younger population and come to think of it more power for the Police to deal with the scum they encounter that need dealing with. I'd also arm them personally but that's another issue. As a bonus to that I would change military rules of engagement to suit the job - fcuk the going into battle with a lawyer at your side and one arm behind your back ideals of today- that's not how we defeated Hitler !!

 

Scrap any laws protecting criminals especially child criminals that 'can't be touched'. Name and shame the bastards and as for people such as John Venables...he wouldn't be a problem as he would already be dead and buried as he would come under my earlier cleansing idea.

 

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After reading alot of the earlier posts I think Imi would swear black was white to defend his faith and it's stuff like that (as well as much more) that is the reason so many people have a problem with Islam as apposed to other religions. Religion is the biggest problem in the world and I think political correctness should work both ways because I think the most racist and/or most untollerant people in this country are not us honkies !!!

[Abz]

After reading alot of the earlier posts I think Imi would swear black was white to defend his faith and it's stuff like that (as well as much more) that is the reason so many people have a problem with Islam as apposed to other religions. Religion is the biggest problem in the world and I think political correctness should work both ways because I think the most racist and/or most untollerant people in this country are not us honkies !!!

 

No one said White people were racist, the BNP undoubtedly is. Nothing to do with the "new policies". I doubt very few of you grew up with the National Front & BNP supporters to understand there past. To give it a comparison they are Al-Qaeda rebranded... in what sense? Its like them turning round & saying they will stop using American weapons which they brought & stop shooting/killing people or have hatred for people who are not the same religion (Even though they go against Islam in every way, not that I expect you or a BNP supporter to understand that). With regards to defending our faith, we don't need to defend it, if we did have to do that then we would not have billions of people following the faith. I would say both imi & I are trying to help you understand. Problem is a lot of people don't want to understand which I think is unfair, as a human being I would take my time to understand your feeling/opinion as it is a sign of respect.

 

Personally I would be surprised very few of the people in the BNP actually know any history of Christianity or even follow it. I could most likely even go as far as saying I bet I know more hymns & been to Church more times than they did!

 

Anyway saw this & thought it was pretty funny

 

_EJJ15erCnI

[hogmaw]

My tuppence worth:

 

All politicians are lying corrupt c4nts

 

All religion is pathetic and religious people are rediculous

 

England should be British first and formost because we were once a hard brutal country BLAH BLAH BLAH

 

Ha ha I thought Paul was the most bitter, twisted and hate-filled xenophobic racist on this board but YOU WIN congratulations you complete and utter mini hitler:D

[mathew]

Ha ha I thought Paul was the most bitter, twisted and hate-filled xenophobic racist on this board but YOU WIN congratulations you complete and utter mini hitler:D

 

 

how is he racist? for having an opinion on religion and religious people?

last time i checked religion was a choice.

[hogmaw]

how is he racist? for having an opinion on religion and religious people?

last time i checked religion was a choice.

 

Don't be so naive.

[mathew]

Don't be so naive.

 

if i dislike a person because of their religion does that make me racist?

 

if i dislike a person because of the football team they support does that make me racist?

[Kopite]

At the end of the day the old I was born here doesn't cut the mustard, unless your relatives were dragged here screaming and kicking that is.

 

How many generations back are we going here? To the Norse Vikings and Jutes? Or does that mean that your idea of "typical" British people should bugger off back to Iceland etc?

[j_jza80]

 

All politicians are lying corrupt c4nts

 

Many are, but there are also some good guys.

 

All religion is pathetic and religious people are rediculous

 

I don't think all religion is pathetic. Alot of religion is outdated, which is why much of it fails to integrate with modern society. In principle, the writings of the various religons can act as good moral pointers, but thats about as much use as it is now.

 

 

 

England should be British first and formost because we were once a hard brutal country but now we are as wet as an otters pocket

 

I agree with being British first and foremost, but you're justification is a bit crude.

 

Criminals should lose their human rights till after they have served the sentences which should be the sentence they were handed and these should fit the crime and not be the laughable versions they are.

 

Agree

 

 

Foreign criminals should be deported - for those likely to be tortured on return to their own country - tough shit they should have tried to be nicer in their host country.

 

Agree

 

 

Prison ships to ease over crowding (although losing foregn criminals will help ease the problem anyway) and prisons turned back into prisons not Butlins holiday camps - something with hard labour such as America's tent city where they have to do the shitty jobs in a chain gang in public.

 

Agree

 

Gang member twats and others caught with knives and guns given a minimum 10 year sentence as promised on said ships

 

Agree. Also recent immigrants directly or indirectly involved in gang culture / knife crime / drug dealing etc should be immediately deported with no chance of reprieve. None should be jailed here at our expense

 

 

Capital punishment for the worse crimes i.e peado's, murderers and those committing treason such as the mental musi's that get off on H.E and P.E.

 

Agree. Any group, religious or not, found to be encouraging hate / violence towards british citizens should be made an example of and be hung in public.

 

Proper discipline in school with no fear of come back in the hope to sort the younger population and come to think of it more power for the Police to deal with the scum they encounter that need dealing with. I'd also arm them personally but that's another issue. As a bonus to that I would change military rules of engagement to suit the job - fcuk the going into battle with a lawyer at your side and one arm behind your back ideals of today- that's not how we defeated Hitler !!

 

Agree

 

Scrap any laws protecting criminals especially child criminals that 'can't be touched'. Name and shame the bastards and as for people such as John Venables...he wouldn't be a problem as he would already be dead and buried as he would come under my earlier cleansing idea.

 

Agree

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After reading alot of the earlier posts I think Imi would swear black was white to defend his faith and it's stuff like that (as well as much more) that is the reason so many people have a problem with Islam as apposed to other religions. Religion is the biggest problem in the world and I think political correctness should work both ways because I think the most racist and/or most untollerant people in this country are not us honkies !!!

 

People are entitled to thier beliefs. There's nothing wrong with people defending thier faith. I think the problem that some people have with Islam is that a minority of our muslim population would have our laws and codes changed to those that would be more in line with thier beliefs.

 

All this political correctness stuff should go though, and religious figure heads and extremist groups that mean to impose thier beliefs / laws on us (IE Shiria) should be punished for treason, to the full extent of the law.

[j_jza80]

 

Anyway saw this & thought it was pretty funny

 

_EJJ15erCnI

 

Racist old git.

[marbleapple]

Alot of religion is outdated, which is why much of it fails to integrate with modern society.

 

I am a Labour voter usually but a famous conservative holds my views in relation to the word society and my view of the country as a whole:

 

"I think we've been through a period where too many people have been given to understand that if they have a problem, it's the government's job to cope with it. 'I have a problem, I'll get a grant.' 'I'm homeless, the government must house me.' They're casting their problem on society. And, you know, there is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first. It's our duty to look after ourselves and then, also to look after our neighbour. People have got the entitlements too much in mind, without the obligations. There's no such thing as entitlement, unless someone has first met an obligation."

[MaveriK]

With regards to defending our faith, we don't need to defend it, if we did have to do that then we would not have billions of people following the faith. I would say both imi & I are trying to help you understand. Problem is a lot of people don't want to understand which I think is unfair, as a human being I would take my time to understand your feeling/opinion as it is a sign of respect.

 

Personally I would be surprised very few of the people in the BNP actually know any history of Christianity or even follow it. I could most likely even go as far as saying I bet I know more hymns & been to Church more times than they did!

 

I dont really wish to be educated in the ways/beliefs of Islam, its your faith but i will show respect towards it the same as i would expect your respect for mine.

 

But in your closing statement you really let yourself down and it really gets on my tits. We (none islamic) dont make sweeping statements about how all muslims are nut jobs looking for an excuse to kill but its ok for you to do so against the BNP?

[dude]

How many generations back are we going here? To the Norse Vikings and Jutes? Or does that mean that your idea of "typical" British people should bugger off back to Iceland etc?

 

Listening to Radio 2 yesterday they were broadcasting from Luton, where they were in a Muslim only school abd we had to listen to this piece of shit who went and protested when our soldiers marched in a town where lots of soldiers who died had come from, he got to shout abuse and stand with a placard saying baby killers, the fucker could hardly speak english and ranted on about the almight god this and that etc, basically he hated the west and everyone who was not Muslim, pieces of shit like that need to be sent somewhere, preferably their version of the promised land!!!

 

You need to wake up and smell the coffee, main stream politicians are only interested in votes and lining their own pockets, they don't give a f**k about people who do not vote etc, my uncles who died in the war did not fight for what Britain has become today.

[MaveriK]

Listening to Radio 2 yesterday they were broadcasting from Luton, where they were in a Muslim only school abd we had to listen to this piece of $#@! who went and protested when our soldiers marched in a town where lots of soldiers who died had come from, he got to shout abuse and stand with a placard saying baby killers, the $#@!er could hardly speak english and ranted on about the almight god this and that etc, basically he hated the west and everyone who was not Muslim, pieces of $#@! like that need to be sent somewhere, preferably their version of the promised land!!!

 

I listened to the same broadcast, it made my blood boil as well.

[tbourner]

I'm voting for the party who will finaly admit there are too many people in this country immigrant or otherwise.We are told there are too many cars on the road,too much unemployment,too many people needing n.h.s care,too many people on benefits,too many people needing houses,yup just too many people,dont know what any party can do about it,

Similar to what I said in another thread. Unfortunately reducing the population dramatically will royally screw up the future economy. We'd need a very gradual decrease in population growth, getting to a plateau point in maybe 20 years time, then start some reductions after that. It will take a world effort though not just 1 country.

 

 

Criminals should lose their human rights etc. etc.

I agree.

 

Proper discipline in school with no fear of come back in the hope to sort the younger population and come to think of it more power for the Police to deal with the scum they encounter that need dealing with. I'd also arm them personally but that's another issue.

This I'm not sure about, I agree with the idea but similar to what I've said before about national service you'll always get a nasty teacher or a vindictive cop who'll abuse the power, and 'good' kids and 'good' people will be victimised and bullied because of it. This is why we've gone to the lowest common denominator of not giving teachers and Police the power that corrupts some of them. Unfortunately the lowest common denominator is SO low we're now in the position we're in.

Maybe if you could guarantee the people put into teaching and Police positions and somehow monitor their behavior to make sure they are not victimising certain people/groups over others - but how much resource will that require?

 

 

if i dislike a person because of their religion does that make me racist?

Only if you assume their race relates to their religion. Disliking someone based on religion alone just makes you bigoted.

[edinlexusV8]

I am a Labour voter usually but a famous conservative holds my views in relation to the word society and my view of the country as a whole:

 

"I think we've been through a period where too many people have been given to understand that if they have a problem, it's the government's job to cope with it. 'I have a problem, I'll get a grant.' 'I'm homeless, the government must house me.' They're casting their problem on society. And, you know, there is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first. It's our duty to look after ourselves and then, also to look after our neighbour. People have got the entitlements too much in mind, without the obligations. There's no such thing as entitlement, unless someone has first met an obligation."

 

[imi]

I listened to the same broadcast, it made my blood boil as well.

 

Is there a link to this recording on the bbc website i'd like to listen to it.

[imi]

After reading alot of the earlier posts I think Imi would swear black was white to defend his faith

 

I don't think I would, nevertheless you are entitled to speculate.

[supracars]

Listening to Radio 2 yesterday they were broadcasting from Luton, where they were in a Muslim only school abd we had to listen to this piece of $#@! who went and protested when our soldiers marched in a town where lots of soldiers who died had come from, he got to shout abuse and stand with a placard saying baby killers, the $#@!er could hardly speak english and ranted on about the almight god this and that etc, basically he hated the west and everyone who was not Muslim, pieces of $#@! like that need to be sent somewhere, preferably their version of the promised land!!!

 

You need to wake up and smell the coffee, main stream politicians are only interested in votes and lining their own pockets, they don't give a f**k about people who do not vote etc, my uncles who died in the war did not fight for what Britain has become today.

 

 

 

yes but there is so much shit that you can find for visa versa but theres no point about going anal over it...

 

get a life man

 

that fella on that broadcast is about stupid and arrogant as you...

[dude]

Is there a link to this recording on the bbc website i'd like to listen to it.

 

It was on at 1 o clock (lunchtime) 2 muslims arguing, ! saying the extremist was wrong (fair play).

[dude]

yes but there is so much shit that you can find for visa versa but theres no point about going anal over it...

 

get a life man

 

that fella on that broadcast is about stupid and arrogant as you...

 

Show me the link to an englishman doing the same in Iraq Ive got a life dude, but it would be better if these foreign f**kers didn't keep winding me up and more to the point English that stand up for them.