BNP launching their 'manifesto' on BBC News

[Purity14]

I suggest you visit a mosque & speak to anyone there to provide you with what you need.

 

Great Answer

[Abz]

Great Answer

 

[penguin]

Dude one thing you're overlooking is the fact that the best people with the best experince get the best jobs.. Everyone goes to the same schools-- the hardest working pupils getthe best grades... Now, in my experience I've come across 16 yr olds who would rather get knocked up and be living on benefits for life... They sure as hell ain't foreign?! As for prisons etc- there are scum in ever society-people who take a huge risk for easy gain.. Again our prisons are filled with our own scum with not many foreigners

 

bottom line for me - If I was pm, I would let anyone who could prove they were educated and driven to succeed into the country.. That would ensure our work force was world class, our services were world class... Non of this bullshit of British jobs for British workers -- if you lack the skills to do something a forigner or ethnic can do bette then you should have pulled finger our of arse and worked harder in school.

[Konrad]

Im not anti Muslim....... I am anti any foreigner here taking my families hospital places and jobs etc and not contributing anything usefull to society be they pole, nigerian, icelandic!!! thats the great thing I dont discriminate, I dont want any foreigners turning up and overloading my health sevice etc, sorry dude thats my views and unlike in many 'other' cultures I can view them without fear of a linch mob popping round to behead me on national TV:blink:

 

I think you are getting to problem from wrong side Dude. Most immigrants are actually contributing hell a lot to economy, but it would be boring to read about it in newspapers, wouldn't it?

You do not need to be afraid about immigration from EU, as most of those people are coming here to work hard, pay taxes, gather some money and go back to where they come from (remmeber about tax, NI and other contributions they will never regain). Most of these individuals are healthy, young people who come to work, not to drain the system or watse their time in hospitals.

As for non EU immigrants - put australian system to work, it ain't that hard - pick, who you need at the moment and that is.

Proper solution, but very unpopular one (among politicians at least), would be to rewamp benefit system to stage, where you will be not able to survive on benefits and you NEED to work for a living (at least part time). Most home grown and foreign scroungers are sitting here, because they can get free ride for whole live. I just cannot understand, how main parties seems to overlook benefits problems (or afraid to do anything), when in reality harsh cuts in benefits and forcing idle bone bastards to work for their living would boost any party popularity among average Joe's (read: voters)....

[jagman]

Just read some of their manifesto - it did make me laugh ie ;

 

• The BNP will establish a penal station for extremely dangerous/violent repeat criminals (including rapists) on the British island of South Georgia.

 

The BNP will take legislative steps to protect Britain’s pubs, which will include tax concessions, smoking rooms under strict supervision and a lowering of tax on alcohol served in public houses.

[dude]

Dude one thing you're overlooking is the fact that the best people with the best experince get the best jobs.. Everyone goes to the same schools-- the hardest working pupils getthe best grades... Now, in my experience I've come across 16 yr olds who would rather get knocked up and be living on benefits for life... They sure as hell ain't foreign?! As for prisons etc- there are scum in ever society-people who take a huge risk for easy gain.. Again our prisons are filled with our own scum with not many foreigners

 

bottom line for me - If I was pm, I would let anyone who could prove they were educated and driven to succeed into the country.. That would ensure our work force was world class, our services were world class... Non of this bullshit of British jobs for British workers -- if you lack the skills to do something a forigner or ethnic can do bette then you should have pulled finger our of arse and worked harder in school.

 

Prisons full of our own 'scum' well yes there are a few police and judges in Ford!!! Inc a chief inspector!! but never mind he was a pillar of society until his little misdemeanors came to light!![sHOCK][/sHOCK]But there are so many foreign nationals its a joke,in some prisons you will struggle to hear the english language. As for letting people in who are better qualified thats well and good if we had room but we dont:(You may think differently if a close family member cant get an operation because an eastern european etc is haveing yet another kid so they can get more benefit!!!!!!

[dude]

I think you are getting to problem from wrong side Dude. Most immigrants are actually contributing hell a lot to economy, but it would be boring to read about it in newspapers, wouldn't it?

You do not need to be afraid about immigration from EU, as most of those people are coming here to work hard, pay taxes, gather some money and go back to where they come from (remmeber about tax, NI and other contributions they will never regain). .

 

No most imigrants dont contribute a lot to the country!!! They are like you say taking their money out of the country and not spending it here!!! Great so SOME of them pay a bit of Tax and NI but a lot do not and they will work for a lot less BECAUSE they are taking the money out of the country and there are 20 of them living in a house and just working to take money back to their other families so they can save up for tickets to come here and get paid to have kids!!! and don't even get me started on european/middle eastern criminal activity!!!! There always has and always will be ciminal activity but there are certain 'rules' that have applied, to these foreign criminals a human life means nothing, I have seen people trafficking gangs who will kill anyone men women kids for virtually no reason, Turkish gangs the same over drugs, Somalian reasoning beggars belief they just kill for fun. Yes I know before you say this happens with 'bitish' criminals but it is not the norm and there are a fair few brits who are a waste of Oxygen but they would be our problem to deal with.

[jagman]

Dude has some good points and they need to be addressed,but the Bnp are not the ones to do it ,with their monty python manifesto:rolleyes:

 

 

IF Brits work overseas usually at a higher paid job and pay no tax-we call them Expats -go figure !

 

Immigration has historically been a good thing and the countries that had it have prospered because of it , but the world population is on an exponential curve ....

[dude]

Dude has some good points and they need to be addressed,but the Bnp are not the ones to do it ,with their monty python manifesto:rolleyes:

 

 

IF Brits work overseas usually at a higher paid job and pay no tax-we call them Expats -go figure !

 

Immigration has historically been a good thing and the countries that had it have prospered because of it , but the world population is on an exponential curve ....

 

I have no time for Ex Pats either Adam, they really piss me off, set up little communities and slag of Britain whilst actually trying to recreate Britain!!!!

 

As for having a prison off somewhere for the worst most violent criminals....... is that such a bad idea???

[jagman]

Thers some irony there John, -Cheap subisdised booze and violent people dont usually mix:D - ask any policemen on here !!

[dude]

Thers some irony there John, -Cheap subisdised booze and violent people dont usually mix:D - ask any policemen on here !!

 

Is it just me but I remember life back in the 80's was so much more fun, no big brother watching , no ridiculous health and safety regs and half a chance of getting away with a few things that don't really harm anyone, sometimes I wish I could just do an Ashes to Ashes scenario.

[Ricky49]

I have a mate and where he works there are women who come from Eastern Europe that are claiming benefits from our goverment for their children who still live in there respective eastern European countries.

 

This country has a problem with immigration which needs addressing and if the BNP is the best party to resolve this then I'm all for it.

[Konrad]

I have a mate and where he works there are women who come from Eastern Europe that are claiming benefits from our goverment for their children who still live in there respective eastern European countries.

 

 

Did you ask how much is it and is it illegal to do so? Or you just repeat whatever you hear and then run to vote for morons without substance because they say they will "sort it out". If I promise you moon on the stick, will you vote for me? I might say whatever you want to hear... Get real for Christ sake, when I see all this talk about voting for bunch of racists who are good only to play on lowest human instincs i feel sorry for you.

[tbourner]

I think the problem is we're all too worried about offending. If Britain is a multicultural society then it can't have a base, therefore it should go to the individual. If a school rules that kids must wear uniform then a muslim cannot demand to wear anything else (I understand that particular story was probably sensationalised hype more than fact), similarly a white Christian can't demand to wear a cross neclace if that school forbids it. The same principle should apply everywhere for everyone and there should be no case for something causing offence and being removed. Unfortunately, dude, that means government run prisons can't show a cross unless the running is handed over to the govenor entirely .

Then we need to limit immigration and toughen up on slackers, regardless of race or religion. There are stories of the police (et al) being forced to employ certain people to avoid discrimination - which is clearly wrong. Again I don't know how true that is.

The BNP are nowhere near any of these ideas, they seem to want a white Christian country with hand picked immigrants to do work for us!! It's far too late for all that, we are a multicultural country now and it's not gonna change, we just need to make it fair for EVERYONE and not just the (not so) minorities.

[penguin]

No most imigrants dont contribute a lot to the country!!! They are like you say taking their money out of the country and not spending it here!!! Great so SOME of them pay a bit of Tax and NI but a lot do not and they will work for a lot less BECAUSE they are taking the money out of the country and there are 20 of them living in a house and just working to take money back to their other families so they can save up for tickets to come here and get paid to have kids!!! and don't even get me started on european/middle eastern criminal activity!!!! There always has and always will be ciminal activity but there are certain 'rules' that have applied, to these foreign criminals a human life means nothing, I have seen people trafficking gangs who will kill anyone men women kids for virtually no reason, Turkish gangs the same over drugs, Somalian reasoning beggars belief they just kill for fun. Yes I know before you say this happens with 'bitish' criminals but it is not the norm and there are a fair few brits who are a waste of Oxygen but they would be our problem to deal with.

 

Dude I think you're being short sighted when you say immigrants don't contribute anything.. Regardless of 20living in one house they still need to eat, drink, keep warm, use public transport, drive cars, pay insurance - just every day things which ARE taxed at the point of sale!

 

As for the immigrant having an operation before my own kid - well if he got there first fair play to him... I would have bupa cover anyway.

 

Lastly can you clarrify what you mean by "great Britain" I'm still tying to figure out what people are always going on about when they say it's not "great any more" .....

[Abz]

So we are voting for this chap to run the country?

 

Who said the guy does not have a chip on his shoulder? Looks like he is in Wales.

 

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[penguin]

So we are voting for this chap to run the country?

 

Who said the guy does not have a chip on his shoulder? Looks like he is in Wales.

 

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The dudes a total moron. I'm off to punish my White slave for serving me luke warm eggs this morning

[RedM]

Ah! Nick Griffin. What a douchebag.

[edinlexusV8]

Illegal immigrants are not welcome in any country. The politicians mix legal and illegal ones to f**k up our brains.

 

Immigration is a world wide phenomenon nobody can stop this. You cannot ask a man not to walk from one place to another on this planet if he can find a better life for himself and his family.

 

The new skills based points based system is the best UK could ever have to control immigration. This has been successfully implemented in US and in AUS for more than a decade and now it is adopted in here for the last 2 years by labour. The immigration from outside EU has fallen down dramatically in the last 2 years. Only people with specialist skills that are shortage in UK are given permission to allow and live in UK. Though there has been uncontrolled immigration before that and also immigration with in EU has caused some problems in the past, I really dont thing immigration is the biggest problem.

 

A legal immigrant (outside EU) on a highly skilled work permit holders who are either doctors, engineers or technology specialists, they have to stay in UK for 10 years before they can apply for residency. Only after which they are ELIGIBLE to apply for any benefits. During this time they have to be fully employed atleast ABOVE £36K per annum and pay their taxes if not they cannot get their work permit renewed and would be sent back. Forget about residency and benefits.

 

Coming to Illegal immigrants, Illegals dont have a passport/VISA, they cannot apply for NINumber and wont be able to work. Illegals wont end up as doctors or engineers and also wont end up in the high end/blue color jobs of the society. The door for illegals is pretty much shut for the last 2 years and I think this is the least of our worries.

 

And coming to the sodding b***ds who blame everything on immigrants. Answer my following issues ...

 

There are too many teenage pregnancies - because of immigrants I suppose

 

There are too many people committing crime - because of immigrants

 

Lots of under age binge drinking - because of immigrants

 

Education Standards are low, language skills are poor, younger generation cannot write a proper letter without spelling mistakes - I suppose this also has to be because of immigrants

 

There are too less british people going to uni and actually doing engineering and science - should be because of immigrants

 

There are too many people on the benefits - should be because of immigrants

 

The manufacturing industry disappeared - should be because of immigrants

 

People buy lots of goods from China and other countries making business to grow else where - should be because of immigrants

 

Britain is a SMALL country with less resources like Iron, Aluminium, Coal, Crude Oil, Solar Power and finding it difficult to compete with countries like US, Russia, China etc in manufacturing - Should be because of immigrants. If the £ has not been strong as it has been for the last couple of decades we are basically f***ed. Every other country will overtake us!

 

If you want to talk about greatness of Britain looking at the past history, that is fine. Britain used to have a lot of guns and ammunition due to industrial revolution that kicked first in Europe, this helped Britain to occupy lots of other countries (mostly outside Europe who dont have guns and stuff) and got all the taxes paid to the queen, making Britain very rich and £ stronger in the first place. Also Britain used to have the best universities, technology and research so other countries has to buy this from Britain. This is not the case anymore! Wake UP! The past greatness will not promise a bright future!

[AndrewOW]

Good post Mr EdinlexusV8, but 'coz' should be spelt 'because'. Ok?

 

EDIT: The BNP should not be allowed any seats in any Parliament. Ever!

[Lbm]

Let's not forget all those bl**dy immigrants working their arses off for the NHS.

 

Helping people and paying their taxes...the b*st%rds.

[Abz]

Good post Mr EdinlexusV8, but 'coz' should be spelt 'because'. Ok?

 

EDIT: The BNP should not be allowed any seats in any Parliament. Ever!

 

I echo Andrew's comments, good points Mr EdinlexusV8.

 

Let's not forget all those bl**dy immigrants working their arses off for the NHS.

 

Helping people and paying their taxes...the b*st%rds.

 

[dude]

Let's not forget all those bl**dy immigrants working their arses off for the NHS.

 

Helping people and paying their taxes...the b*st%rds.

 

So if all these imigrants have jobs then if they werent here there would be jobs for english born people, point taken!!!!

[dude]

Illegal immigrants are not welcome in any country. The politicians mix legal and illegal ones to f**k up our brains.

 

Immigration is a world wide phenomenon nobody can stop this. You cannot ask a man not to walk from one place to another on this planet if he can find a better life for himself and his family.

 

The new skills based points based system is the best UK could ever have to control immigration. This has been successfully implemented in US and in AUS for more than a decade and now it is adopted in here for the last 2 years by labour. The immigration from outside EU has fallen down dramatically in the last 2 years. Only people with specialist skills that are shortage in UK are given permission to allow and live in UK. Though there has been uncontrolled immigration before that and also immigration with in EU has caused some problems in the past, I really dont thing immigration is the biggest problem.

 

A legal immigrant (outside EU) on a highly skilled work permit holders who are either doctors, engineers or technology specialists, they have to stay in UK for 10 years before they can apply for residency. Only after which they are ELIGIBLE to apply for any benefits. During this time they have to be fully employed atleast ABOVE £36K per annum and pay their taxes if not they cannot get their work permit renewed and would be sent back. Forget about residency and benefits.

 

Coming to Illegal immigrants, Illegals dont have a passport/VISA, they cannot apply for NINumber and wont be able to work. Illegals wont end up as doctors or engineers and also wont end up in the high end/blue color jobs of the society. The door for illegals is pretty much shut for the last 2 years and I think this is the least of our worries.

 

And coming to the sodding b***ds who blame everything on immigrants. Answer my following issues ...

 

There are too many teenage pregnancies - because of immigrants I suppose

 

There are too many people committing crime - because of immigrants

 

Lots of under age binge drinking - because of immigrants

 

Education Standards are low, language skills are poor, younger generation cannot write a proper letter without spelling mistakes - I suppose this also has to be because of immigrants

 

There are too less british people going to uni and actually doing engineering and science - should be because of immigrants

 

There are too many people on the benefits - should be because of immigrants

 

The manufacturing industry disappeared - should be because of immigrants

 

People buy lots of goods from China and other countries making business to grow else where - should be because of immigrants

 

Britain is a SMALL country with less resources like Iron, Aluminium, Coal, Crude Oil, Solar Power and finding it difficult to compete with countries like US, Russia, China etc in manufacturing - Should be because of immigrants. If the £ has not been strong as it has been for the last couple of decades we are basically f***ed. Every other country will overtake us!

 

If you want to talk about greatness of Britain looking at the past history, that is fine. Britain used to have a lot of guns and ammunition due to industrial revolution that kicked first in Europe, this helped Britain to occupy lots of other countries (mostly outside Europe who dont have guns and stuff) and got all the taxes paid to the queen, making Britain very rich and £ stronger in the first place. Also Britain used to have the best universities, technology and research so other countries has to buy this from Britain. This is not the case anymore! Wake UP! The past greatness will not promise a bright future!

 

No these problems are not caused by imigrants but a lot are compounded by them, you obviously like not living in a white christian society and being dictated too!!! Do you carry lube around with you or just hope it is at hand when needed???

[Abz]

So if all these imigrants have jobs then if they werent here there would be jobs for english born people, point taken!!!!

 

No shortage of jobs in the NHS dude!

 

http://www.jobs.nhs.uk/cgi-bin/advsearch