BNP launching their 'manifesto' on BBC News

[MaveriK]

I bet most haven't even bothered looking at their policies, just getting suckered into the ignoramus bandwagon

 

Then dont vote for them imi and dont you dare mock others for doing so or shall we mention the word extremist?

[The Raven]

Clearly there is a problem in this country, if there wasnt then these clowns wouldnt even get a look in.

 

The saving grace is while some of the stuff they are saying seems good they continue to act like fools.

 

I heard on radio one yesterday that one of the BNP posted on facebook about "paki killers should be hung" or word to that affect.

 

So what did they do to the person? Nothing delt with internally. WTF they should have sacked the women on the spot. Instead they come over as combat 18, and alot of people arnt going to vote for people that act like nazi skin heads no matter what the promise to do.

 

I should add, that one of our labour boards has been "tagged" with VOTE BNP COMBAT 18. If they had 3 brain cells between them then they would be dangerous.

[imi]

Then dont vote for them imi and dont you dare mock others for doing so or shall we mention the word extremist?

 

 

are you looking in the mirror as you type that?

[Smallshinyant]

If people wish to live here which i do not have a problem with they should follow the rules of the country or get kicked out . Rich.

Oh.. do we have to follow ALL of the rules?.. there are a couple i keep forgetting about.

[monsween]

I've just read through their policies and frankly its laughable.

[monsween]

oh and IBTL

[imi]

What rules are you referring to?

 

still waiting for those rules?

[The Raven]

Lets not get this locked people, cant we all just talk this over?

[Abz]

Not wishing to start a race/religious argument but a lot of their policies make sense, this country has lost the ability to stand up for itself, I no longer feel like I live in Britain, funny how when I go abroad I have to abide by that countries laws and culture, never did see many churches in Morroco!!! Sorry but like it or not the BNP have SOME very valid points, prob enough to get my vote!!

 

http://www.arabicbible.com/directories/churches/morocco.htm

 

I have to admit we do have a fair bit of Mosques in the UK but have you ever seen how full these are with people of all ages? I go fairly reguarly & love to see the kids attending & learning & teaching themselves on their religion. A very good friend of mine who is a Roman Catholic mentioned how the amount of people going to Church has declined a huge amount & wanted to see how Mosque's had maintained getting children\teenagers to attend. I invited him to the Mosque to have a look himself & although most of the talks were in Arabic a lot was spoken in English so he was able to understand it. He was impressed to say the least & took some valuable ideas which he could incorporate.

[Abz]

with that . we need to stand up for ourselfs once again and take our country back . If people wish to live here which i do not have a problem with they should follow the rules of the country or get kicked out . Rich.

 

Here is a small snip at what the BNP are like...

 

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[RedM]

BNP as bad as all the others shock!

 

 

The British National Party—

a radical alternative?

 

If there’s one thing that everyone agrees on about the BNP, it’s that they’re different from the other parties. Anti-racists and

anti-fascists will tell you that the BNP’s different and worse, the BNP will say that they’re different and better, but they all agree

that they’re different. It’s a lot rarer to see anyone point out that, in a lot of important ways, the BNP actually stand for keeping things the same. They may talk big about scaring the political elite and empowering ordinary people, but their promises are just as hollow as the ones you hear from the other politicians.

 

It was perhaps last year’s expenses scandal more than anything else that discredited the mainstream political parties, and the

BNP would like you to think they’re different. But a look at their record shows they’re as sleazy as the rest. In Barking

& Dagenham, seven BNP councillors attended only 27% of meetings – but each still pocketed the full £9,810 allowance.

One BNP councillor in Sandwell attended no meetings at all for six months and was booted off the council – but he still took his allowance.

 

They’ve avoided paying income tax and National Insurance contributions by pretending that some staff were self-employed, and their 2007 party accounts failed their audit as several thousand pounds of expenditure were not properly

recorded. That wasn’t a one-off mistake, either: their accounts for 2008 were filed six months late, and an independent auditor said that the records failed to “give a true and fair view” of the BNP’s finances. They’ve now been fined five times in the last two years for their dodgy account-keeping.

 

The fact that the BNP are a greedy bunch of expenses-fiddling chancers should be enough to stop them posing as any kind of

alternative, but there’s also the question of what they actually stand for. They say they want “British jobs for British workers”,

but in fact they’re against any attempts by workers to protect their jobs. Their confused attitude was shown in Merseyside

last year when they managed to get a whole six activists together for a protest against the TUC. If it wasn’t already clear

enough, their contempt for ordinary working-class people was spelled out when their councillor Simon Smith declared that

“white working class scum will be swept away by a future BNP government.” The BNP says that people who are sick of out-

of-touch toffs like David Cameron should vote instead for Nick Griffin – but he’s really just another greedy, sleazy politician

born into a rich Tory family who was educated at a private school before going on to study at Cambridge.

 

A lot of the time, anyone who’d even consider voting for the BNP is dismissed as a Nazi or unhinged. We don’t think things

are quite that simple. The people who vote BNP because they’re scared or angry about issues like jobs and housing are right to

be angry – although they’re wrong to blame these problems on immigrants – and when the BNP say that mainstream politicians

have abandoned ordinary people they’re telling the truth. The difference is in how we react to these problems.

[Ewen]

Some of my best friends are manifestos.

[Paul]

If I said that Muslims are ignorant for their beliefs then there would be uproar, they throw their toys out of the pram when a cartoon dares to be funny yet they feel they are free to knock and insult others in this instance?????

F*ck me, this PC lark is a bit one sided

[Terminator]

If you want to know what their real views are like, go to one of the BNP meetings. I have and not not much has changed since the days of the National Front, just a lot more wrinkles.

[marbleapple]

My point wasn't meant as a 'zeig heil' mate

 

It's just I think it's disgusting we're basically force-fed political parties which make a mockery of what is meant to be our own, personal decision. Democracy it ain't. I felt the same when the BNP were let onto Question Time, and I said so on here at the time.

 

Quite agree

 

It may well be, but whilst they continue to make a mockery of themselves with stunts like that St George (wtf?!?!), I for one cannot begin to take them seriously.

 

Agree with that too.

 

I appear to be agreeing with a lot today. How odd.

[MaveriK]

 

are you looking in the mirror as you type that?

 

Your kidding right, you know nothing about me sir!

 

You have, and i guess always will, stand up and shout how not all muslims are like the complete freaks who kill innocents, burn flags, behead, etc etc etc. We all agree with you on that but then you go on trying to justify their actions, whether you mean to or not i dont know or perhaps i am getting the sh*tty end of your posts. On these threads you dont have to defend yourself or your beliefs, we are not "dissing" you or your beliefs. We are saying that the "radicals" are nut jobs and deserve to be treated the way they treat others, would you not agree?

 

The current BNP have ideas that alot of people agree with, alot that people dont. The BIG difference is they, at present, haven't killed, mamed or commited any crimes (that i am aware of).

[Paul]

Lets face it IMI isn't going to vote BNP, I'm never going to become a muslim so why do these threads keep appearing?

 

It's good to discuss things but these always end up with the same result, a slanging match with everyone digging their heals in and then a lock.

Even i'm getting bored of them now and I love a good row usually

[penguin]

Agree with Paul - why not have a rule which forbids posting of religious/political threads?

[Ewen]

Agree with Paul - why not have a rule which forbids posting of religious/political threads?

Politics and religion ? Us lot could start an argument with a sign post...

[imi]

Your kidding right, you know nothing about me sir!

 

You have, and i guess always will, stand up and shout how not all muslims are like the complete freaks who kill innocents, burn flags, behead, etc etc etc.

 

why do you prefer to label them as muslims as supposed to Al-Qaeda or whatever group they belong to?

 

How come we dont refer to the IRA or even the KKK as crazy Christian fanatics?

 

We all agree with you on that but then you go on trying to justify their actions, whether you mean to or not i dont know or perhaps i am getting the sh*tty end of your posts.

 

Whos actions are you referring to as I dont remember justifying anyones actions.

 

On these threads you dont have to defend yourself or your beliefs, we are not "dissing" you or your beliefs.

 

Perhaps not you, others here have in the past and continue today. I really dont mind if someone calls muslims or anyone else with different beliefs ignorant, etc; however if you start insulting them / their beliefs then do expect to be at the very least challenged into a dialogue.

 

We are saying that the "radicals" are nut jobs and deserve to be treated the way they treat others, would you not agree?

 

that seems to be their approach as well, doesn't seem to be working assuming that peace is the ultimate objective....

 

 

still waiting for those rules?

 

Still waiting.....

[mathew]

their policies benefit me more than any other party's.

[Jas]

BNP seem to have a monopoly on being proud to be british. they seem to be the only people voicing an opinion on what it means to be British.

 

The concept of being british needs to be reclaimed by non-raciest open minded, balanced people and democratic parties.

 

Britain has got a lot of non-whites that are here to stay. if you have a problem with that then frankly your an idiot and you only have your white forefathers to blame as multicultural Britain is a partly a by product of Britain’s imperialistic past efforts.

 

Yes we have problems with immigration and we need to work at fairness issues when it comes to all our British subgroups (non whites and whites). but the "us and them" attitude perpetuated by the BNP is moronic.

 

i find it fascinating how some people seem to be hit by a strong sense of religious identity only when they are faced with strong religious identities of other groups.

 

"laws of our land" ??? what laws... Christian laws? Christianity originated in the middle east? like most of the people the bnp are trying to boot out.

 

truth is religion doesn’t belong in politics. we need to respect each others faiths, but history shows to govern a multicultural land based on religious ideals particular to one group never ends well.

 

 

Frankly im sadned that the only time i seem to see the union jack on tv these days is when the BNP are standing in front of it. It needs to be rescued and reclaimed from these halfwits.

[dude]

still waiting for those rules?

 

As in Australia and NZ, before you get a visa to live and citizenship you have to agree to live that countries lifestyle and culture, not run round insisting that the country you have chosen to go live bend over backwards and build places of worship and special schools and insist that the kids get taught a multitude of foreign languages at school, so much so that some classes in london are virtually non english speaking, and not insisting that crosses are removed from our churches as they 'offend' and insisting on women wearing burkas/veils etc in these times of terrorist activity etc etc !!!!! Oh and not blowing up tube stations etc would be good.

 

Basically if someone doesnt like the way England is piss off and live somewhere that suits better. I see Belgium is the first country in Europe to ba Burkas etc, nice one, if a white woman goes to an Arab country can she wear a mini skirt??? No works both ways.

[Jas]

Basically if someone doesnt like the way England is piss off and live somewhere that suits better.

 

seems like the BNP and there followers dont like the way england is at the moment so why dont they piss of somewhere else..

 

i think on the whole englands fine as it is!

 

Anyway your comparison is flawed. ive never seen a Muslim tell a white women wearing a mini skirt to cover up in this country so why are you telling muslim women they should uncover themselves in this country??

 

live and let live (- unless someone’s causing harm.)

[dude]

seems like the BNP and there followers dont like the way england is at the moment so why dont they piss of somewhere else..

 

i think on the whole englands fine as it is!

 

Anyway your comparison is flawed. ive never seen a Muslim tell a white women wearing a mini skirt to cover up in this country so why are you telling muslim women they should uncover themselves in this country??

 

live and let live (- unless someone’s causing harm.)

 

Listen are you being funny???

 

! it is their country and they/we have a right to have it as we want

2) How can a muslim woman tell a white woman to do anything in the white womans country???? They would pretty quickly tell her to cover up in their own country!!!!

I think you just mugged yourself right off, think before you answer because they are 2 of the dumbest replies/arguments you could have come up with dude!!!

 

I never said anywhere I wanted Muslim women to uncover!!! Are we on the same planet???