Martin J Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Some interesting topics and arguments so far. Not as 'lively' as I had thought it may turn out. So far, I think Nick Clegg is coming out the better - maybe because he's not been as prominent as the other 2 over time and his points of view therefore seem fresher to me than the same old Cameron v Brown arguments. At least they are all managing to answer questions without screwing up answers or forgetting things (although perhaps that's down to the no doubt pre-vetted questions) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky49 Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 No I'm watching my newly painted wall dry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Cutting them off before they get their point across is spoiling it a little. Cameron appeared to be the biggest arse licker especially noticeable in his closing speech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra_Sean Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 No I'm watching my newly painted wall dry. Sounds intresting, What colour mate ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsween Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Cutting them off before they get their point across is spoiling it a little. Cameron appeared to be the biggest arse licker especially noticeable in his closing speech. Lib Dems - Never going to get in so doenst have a lot to lose Conserv - Sly c**t Labour - Seemed to have the best information and ideas its a shame he's an idiot and cant debate for toffee. Saying that lib dems came out the winner in my books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Thought Clegg came across as 'fresh', Cameron as shifty for not answering the questions, and Brown for being boring but with substance. It was funny watching Clegg trying to distance himself from Brown, and Cameron not let Brown dictate about what he was going to speak about (ie by answering his questions). Sadly, although it was a good idea, I didnt feel I learned anything new about any of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsween Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Maybe you didnt but i bet alot of other people did. This has hurt Brown alot i think but hasn't changed a thing for Cameron. Clegg will have bumped himself up but no-where near enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 I was surprised really. At the begining I thought that they were all full of shit, then after a while I realised that they were all definitely full of shit..!! I don't think that last night achieved a great deal, they just seemed to be going round in circles. I would like to have seen a bit more emotion from them and then maybe I would have been convinced. I though Camerons closing speech was the best tbh. Either way I won't be voting as they are all cnuts in my eyes...... H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 I only caught the last half, thought Ali kept cutting Nick off when he was trying to finish his point, he looked flustered when he did it the second time! I'll have to watch it again on demand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 They had a huge clock in front of them that counted down a minute each time they were given a question - seemed sensible otherwise one of them would just witter on over the others and you wouldn't hear anything. I don't really feel drawn towards any of them at the moment but it's the policies I want to vote for, I want to hear the whole group play live, not just look at pictures of the frontman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_b Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 I don't think that last night achieved a great deal, they just seemed to be going round in circles. I didn't watch it but I'm not surprised. These things seem to be a contest of who comes across as the most sincere and the least smarmy, rather than about policies. As such, they do serve some kind of purpose but certainly not to enlighten viewers as to what the parties stand for. Politicians are guarded in what they say, much preferring to stick to substance-free rhetoric rather than risk a gaffe by talking about things that really make a difference. Have any of you watched Newsnight or similar and thought to yourself after a politician has been interviewed, "What new piece of policy info did I learn from that?" I think I could predict roughly what gets said in these debates: join these phrases up to form proper sentances, repeating the phrases at will: "A fairer deal for a fairer Britain" "Decent, hardworking people" "Let nurses do the jobs they are employed to do" "No rewards for failure" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 It was slightly better if you followed this at the same time: http://newsarse.com/2010/04/15/live-the-first-televised-election-debate-build-up/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-Plethora Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 "I was speaking to a 40 year old black man the other day" - David Cameron That line brough a wry smile from me last night, black you say David? my oh my whatever next! They all had their own variations of I was speaking to X the other day and... though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 It did seem all warm and fuzzy from what I saw, lots of complimentary gushing about the people in subject at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesupraboy2 Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 yea that annoyed me...I want to thank you for your service to the country... They want to do that job (Army / Nurse etc...) or they cant get another and do it because it was a job. What about thanks for my job, were all just important if we all stopped working then the government wouldnt be able to employ them as they'd have no taxes. I though Lib dems came offf best, ill still be voting Conservative as i want anyone in but Labour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 I though Lib dems came offf best, ill still be voting Conservative as i want anyone in but Labour. I really don't understand this mentality, I'm hearing the same thing from almost everyone I speak to... vote for the people you want in power, maybe others will do the same and the whole democracy thing will work. I'm not so keen on their vague transport policies personally, no mention of road improvements, tolls or a generally improved network to go with their plans to improve rail and bus services. http://www.libdems.org.uk/siteFiles/resources/PDF/Election%20Policy/11%20-%20Transport.pdf No nuclear either so how long before the fields and sea are full of giant while eyesores furiously trying to generate a fraction of the power a modern (relatively safe) nuclear power station could? I still don't have a clue who the best option for *me* and my future is, it's great to worry about making "the country" a better place but not if it means my life gets worse just make it easier for people to have babies or for old people to catch buses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snooze Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 I really don't understand this mentality, I'm hearing the same thing from almost everyone I speak to... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tactical_voting Another reason why true democracy has to have proprtional representation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesupraboy2 Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 I really don't understand this mentality, I'm hearing the same thing from almost everyone I speak to... vote for the people you want in power, maybe others will do the same and the whole democracy thing will work. I'm not so keen on their vague transport policies personally, no mention of road improvements, tolls or a generally improved network to go with their plans to improve rail and bus services. http://www.libdems.org.uk/siteFiles/resources/PDF/Election%20Policy/11%20-%20Transport.pdf No nuclear either so how long before the fields and sea are full of giant while eyesores furiously trying to generate a fraction of the power a modern (relatively safe) nuclear power station could? I still don't have a clue who the best option for *me* and my future is, it's great to worry about making "the country" a better place but not if it means my life gets worse just make it easier for people to have babies or for old people to catch buses. Its easy my single vote has very little effect by itself unfortunatly. If it was a case of all votes were counted and then added together one with most won then i'd vote for who i wanted. I live in an area which is lib dem, but Conservatives are just behind. The lib dem leaflet even said you only have a choice of lib dem or tory, a vote on labour is a waste As theres a chance of a swing here and more importantly another seat in parliment for conservative then thats what ill do. Also I dont agree with Lib Dem's on some of their polices like joining the Euro but I did think the Nick Clegg made the party look fresh and who were very realistic about the money challenges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewOW Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 Most politics in the UK is so central these days, that you may as well vote for the party right in the middle, and give these 'old guard' something to think about for the next 4 years! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_b Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 Most politics in the UK is so central these days, that you may as well vote for the party right in the middle, and give these 'old guard' something to think about for the next 4 years! One of the Tories' policies is to transfer power from central government to local. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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