Benefits are ace! (Daily Mail hysteria warning)

[michael]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1265508/Peter-Davey-gets-42-000-benefits-year-drives-Mercedes.html

 

 

The Davey family's £815-a-week state handouts pay for a four-bedroom home, top-of-the-range mod cons and two vehicles including a Mercedes people carrier.

 

Father-of-seven Peter gave up work because he could make more living on benefits.

 

Yet he and his wife Claire are still not happy with their lot.

With an eighth child on the way, they are demanding a bigger house, courtesy of the taxpayer.

 

'It's really hard,' said Mrs Davey, 29, who is seven months' pregnant. 'We can't afford holidays and I don't want my kids living on a council estate and struggling like I have.

 

'The price of living is going up but benefits are going down. My carer's allowance is only going up by 80p this year and petrol is so expensive now, I'm worried how we'll cope.

'We're still waiting for somewhere bigger.'

 

Mrs Davey has never had a full-time job while her 35-year-old husband gave up his post in administration nine years ago after realising they would be better off living on the state.

 

At their semi on the Isle of Anglesey, the family have a 42in flatscreen television in the living room with Sky TV at £50 a month, a Wii games console, three Nintendo DS machines and a computer - not to mention four mobile phones.

 

With their income of more than £42,000 a year, they run an 11-seater minibus and the seven-seat automatic Mercedes.

 

But according to the Daveys they have nothing to be thankful for.

'It doesn't bother me that taxpayers are paying for me to have a large family,' added Mrs Davey.

 

'We couldn't afford to care for our children without benefits, but as long as they have everything they need, I don't think I'm selfish.

 

'Most of the parents at our kids' school are on benefits.'

She added: 'I don't feel bad about being subsidised by people who are working. I'm just working with the system that's there.

 

'If the government wants to give me money, I'm happy to take it. We get what we're entitled to. I don't put in anything because I don't pay taxes, but if I could work I would.'

 

The couple met in a pub 13 years ago. A year later, at the age of 17, Mrs Davey gave birth to Jessica, now 12.

 

She was followed by Jade, ten, Jamie-Anne, eight, Harriet, six, Adele, four, the couple's only son Tie, three, and Mercedes, two.

'It cost too much to carrying on working as we were actually better off unemployed,' said Mr Davey.

 

In addition to income support, housing benefit, child tax credits and a council tax discount, the couple receive carer's allowance and disability living allowance for Tie, who suffers from a severe skin disorder.

 

Despite filing for bankruptcy 18 months ago after racking up £20,000 of debt on mail order catalogues they still insist on splashing out on four presents per child at birthdays and last Christmas spent £2,000 on gifts alone.

 

'Santa is always generous in our house,' said Mrs Davey, who once applied to join the police but was turned down.

 

She insists her husband would do any job 'as long as we could still afford the lifestyle we have now'.

 

Mrs Davey, who spends £160 a week at Tesco, says she does not intend to stop at eight children. Her target is 14.

 

And she adds: 'I've always wanted a big family - no one can tell me how many kids I can have whether I'm working or not.'

 

£42,000 a year might be justified if she was producing a fine breed of potential supermodels but these are ugly gingers FFS!

[JustGav]

So that's where my £42/fortnight went when I was out of work!!! LAZY SODDING BARSTEWARDS!!

 

I agree with the last tag....

[MaveriK]

Sickening!

[Fitz]

This thread pretty much says it all.

[Swampy442]

''If the government wants to give me money, I'm happy to take it. We get what we're entitled to."

And therein lies the problem.

[Attero]

And she doesn't realise that petrol prices are high BECAUSE of people like HER.

 

She's ruining this country for us.

[Animal]

What the fuck has gone on with the little shit sat on her knee? It looks like he's been rolled down a hill in a steel bin?

 

I suggest we nerve gas the whole fucking nest of 'em.

[Guest Luke Hero]

God this p!sses me of so much

[Fitz]

I'm suprised the so called 'Man of the House' is wearing a shirt and tie? What's he dressing up for, Meeting at the council applying for more benefits?

[imi]

Bet they vote Labour.....

[tbourner]

@ "close_your_legs_you_mong".

 

Well if I were in power I'd tax couples who want more than 1 child rather than giving them money.

[Nemesis]

Not really one for eugenics but ffs.......

[Dnk]

How many more are doing the same ?

 

Its sad that they can be so open about it and the system just keeps handing out the cash.

 

On just as sour a note how do you all feel about paying for the legal aid the 3 MP's are claiming ?

Perhaps start a new thread for that one !

[AndrewOW]

Euthanasia.

[michael]

Child benefits should cover one child only (and even then I'm not keen on the concept), after that you should pay for your own hobby, not view it as a means to "earn" a living.

 

And those ginger freaks will go on to do the same... as will their own ginger freaks... unless the government puts a stop to this benefits culture.

 

The forum where I first saw this had a very interesting reply, I can't say if the figure are accurate but if they are it pretty much identifies the issues:

 

If an unemployed Pole gets a job as a barista in Starbucks, even for 15 hours a week, his situation improves dramatically. A young man in Britain would be just £10 a week better off than if he stayed at home on benefits. Why break your back for an extra tenner?

 

The situation is even more pernicious for young women who leave school with low qualifications, because the alternative to low-paid work is pregnancy. A woman with one child and on benefits has, on average, more disposable income than a hairdresser or teaching assistant. With two children, it's more than a receptionist or library assistant. With three, it's a lab technician, typist or bookkeeper. So there should be no mystery about why Britain came to have so many children in workless households (one in five, the highest in Europe). The young mothers, and the young men on benefits, are walking down a road to dependency paved for them by the state.

 

Instead of giving these people the cash pay their basic bills and post them their basic food supplies (think African aid type meals here) - allow them to "survive" at our expense if you must but don't make us pay for them to "live".

[tbourner]

Child benefits should cover one child only (and even then I'm not keen on the concept), after that you should pay for your own hobby, not view it as a means to "earn" a living.

 

 

Instead of giving these people the cash pay their basic bills and post them their basic food supplies (think African aid type meals here) - allow them to "survive" at our expense if you must but don't make us pay for them to "live".

 

 

I still like the idea of having the right to have 0.75 children, so a couple has the 'right' to 1.5 children. They can either buy another 0.5 children from another couple (proving they can afford to look after them and supplementing the lower earning couple to look after their child), or sell their 0.5. We'd probably have sold our entire 1.5 by now and paid off some debts. Solves problems with debts, over-population, low income families and these scroungers!

[Snooze]

Don't think anybody (who isn't on benefits themselves) would disagree with any of these comments. So.......

 

....why aren't ANY political parties talking about doing anything about it? Is the benefit-scrounging demographic too large to p*ss off?

Maybe people on benefits shouldn't be allowed to vote? Or is that a bit extreme?

 

It's something that also gets overlooked in the surge and boom of house pricing. To rent a two-bed house round here will set you back a cool £1,000 a month. That means you can safely discount the first £15,000 of your annual salary (including tax/NI deductions). If the government are going to pay for my housing instead, there's absolutely no reason to get out of bed for less than £15k. As the size of the house goes up (if I choose to spawn 15 sprogs), and add child benefit on too, you rapidly get to numbers like the above, where the benefits (and housing benefit still makes up the bulk of it, btw) equate to income of £40k-£50k.

 

And remember, these people won't be paying income tax on that either, so it's equivalent to a salary closer to £60k - insane!

 

The irony is it's these kinds of people who vote for socialist policies, despite being the ones that don't give anything back to society!!!!

[JustGav]

Maybe people on benefits shouldn't be allowed to vote? Or is that a bit extreme?

 

How about one vote per house hold and then divided by the number of people on benefits

[Spike3.0]

Gingers have no SOULS!

[peter richards]

i thought the idea of having children was to love them and bring them up respectfully , not use them to become a total lazy sh1te , and live off the backs of others .

pretty obvious the more she has the more she gets .

should be compulsory vasectomy for him and sterilisation for her , as what they are doing is blatant p1ss taking at our expense

[shima60]

Gingers have no SOULS!

 

hahahaha i knew it was going to be said.

 

 

but on topic this really pishes me off. i mean i work monday to friday working my ass off for a salary less than what they get in benefits. i know people who have done similar needless to say i disowned them. i'm not associating with people like that.

[dr_jekyll]

the tags sum up my thaughts

[aman00123]

This is one case out of hundreds if not thousands in this country and is a typical example of why our tax burden is so high, these people contribute nothing to the economy whilst taking out out huge amounts, I mean £42k a year to sit on your backside and spit kids out! And for the parents to say they feel they deserve it is just disgusting, the worst thing is their kids will most likely follow the same route, die to parent teachings, and then we'll have another 8-14 people spewing out kids with no contribution to the economy! It's a never ending downward spiral which only a government can change by radically changing the benefits system

 

If we can follow a system which any other big economy follows will we not be sorted on the benefits "black hole" which is forming? I don't see countries in the EU, USA or Australia suffering from huge welfare payouts, why should Britain?

 

Ah well, there's my two cents into it

[tbourner]

I mean £42k a year to sit on your backside and spit kids out!

 

As mentioned they dont pay income tax on that. So it works out more like the equivalent salary of £67K a year or thereabouts?

[Wez]

What is the point, its too far gone

 

As much as it angers me there is nothing that can be done unless you get some radical group come in and remove the benefits system, only problem is that as soon as you try and do anything about it we would be pulled up for human rights, racism etc etc etc blah f**king blah.