driving my tt supra on a space saver

[merckx]

Its about that time we should remember the ex-member Tony Ball, iirc, who was advised not to drive his supra with a cracked alloy.

He died when the wheel collapsed and killed a motorcyclist at the same time.

 

I never knew that, it must've happened some time ago

[izzzzythedog]

good on ya, always nice to see somebody willing to risk killing themselves and somebody else just to get to where they are going. But the best part is that you encourage others, now thats really going for it.

 

 

if they were a danger they simply wouldnt exist , car makers wouldnt include them in the boot for fear of law suits , care to show anyone who has died as a direct result of sensible use of a space saver ? best of luck looking

[Scott]

if they were a danger they simply wouldnt exist , car makers wouldnt include them in the boot for fear of law suits , care to show anyone who has died as a direct result of sensible use of a space saver ? best of luck looking

 

Law suits are covered by the careful instructions given and the testing done prior to creating them.

 

Ignorance is bliss isn't it?

 

Are you new to the internet? Using google, the 2nd link after typing "died using a space saver" without the quotes....

 

http://www.safespeed.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1601

[izzzzythedog]

Law suits are covered by the careful instructions given and the testing done prior to creating them.

 

Ignorance is bliss isn't it?

 

Are you new to the internet? Using google, the 2nd link after typing "died using a space saver" without the quotes....

 

http://www.safespeed.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1601

 

just had a look , i could find only 2 links that have anything to do with space savers and a death , both show the people who died had used them inappropriately , anything used inappropriately can cause death , the fact a space saver was fitted to a car had nothing to do with the stupidity shown by the people who died , the space saver is not at fault , the user is , and thats the point here , if used correctly a space saver is safe , exceed its tollerences and just like anything it could be a danger

 

ignorence ? ive not shown a moments ignorence in this entire thread , i have had to defend myself from people who have either acted like a twat thinking a high post count makes them a better person when in fact someone gets judged by their actions and not by association , ive also had a mod , who should know better , try in imply that im putting the op at some sort of risk even when the very first post i typed indicated its a stupid thing to do , ignorence ? yes id agree with that , i was a tyre technician for dunlop for 6 years teaching on the stage 1 and 2 making machines in tyre 1 , 5 and motorsport and have nvq`s as such

 

yeah id say ignorence has been shown here for sure , not by yourself mind but by others here , not exactly feeling the love on this site thats for sure , perhaps one of the most caustic sites ive come across for may a year , just as well im thick skinned

[Jamesy]

With your attitude your gonna have to be thick skinned me thinks

[Scott]

just had a look , i could find only 2 links that have anything to do with space savers and a death , both show the people who died had used them inappropriately , anything used inappropriately can cause death , the fact a space saver was fitted to a car had nothing to do with the stupidity shown by the people who died , the space saver is not at fault , the user is , and thats the point here , if used correctly a space saver is safe , exceed its tollerences and just like anything it could be a danger

 

ignorence ? ive not shown a moments ignorence in this entire thread , i have had to defend myself from people who have either acted like a twat thinking a high post count makes them a better person when in fact someone gets judged by their actions and not by association , ive also had a mod , who should know better , try in imply that im putting the op at some sort of risk even when the very first post i typed indicated its a stupid thing to do , ignorence ? yes id agree with that , i was a tyre technician for dunlop for 6 years teaching on the stage 1 and 2 making machines in tyre 1 , 5 and motorsport and have nvq`s as such

 

yeah id say ignorence has been shown here for sure , not by yourself mind but by others here , not exactly feeling the love on this site thats for sure , perhaps one of the most caustic sites ive come across for may a year , just as well im thick skinned

 

i couldn't be bothered reading the whole blurb so i stopped after i realised you hadn't read the original question. I.ll repeat the jist of it for you.....

 

He wants to use a space saver for many more miles than they are meant to be used....

 

Did you not say that this is what you did? Surely this shows the ignorance you are showing. The excess speed or distance increases the temp of the tyre which can lead to a blowout.

 

Picking and choosing the instructions and guidelines you wish to follow, and others you wish to dismiss is ignorance bud.

 

The benefits in this situation are next to nil. The potential for tragedy is far too high.

[RiceRocket]

not exactly feeling the love on this site thats for sure , perhaps one of the most caustic sites ive come across for may a year , just as well im thick skinned

 

[izzzzythedog]

i couldn't be bothered reading the whole blurb so i stopped after i realised you hadn't read the original question. I.ll repeat the jist of it for you..... so im ignorent and you couldnt be bothered to read what i wrote ? yeah that works ,,``Law suits are covered by the careful instructions given and the testing done prior to creating them `` , a law suit is an instruction but other than this the statement makes no sense , a petitioner puts forward a case thats answerable by a respondant assuming there legal president , the auckland case there was found to be no case to answer and i can find nothing on the other case , in other words there is no legal president to show space savers are a danger unless you can show me other wise and which so far no-one has , insted i see people trying to justify themselves after seeking to criticise me , im happy to admit when im wrong , what a shame no-one else on forums can do the same

 

He wants to use a space saver for many more miles than they are meant to be used.... sorry wrong , there made to last as long as the tread holds out

 

Did you not say that this is what you did? Surely this shows the ignorance you are showing. The excess speed or distance increases the temp of the tyre which can lead to a blowout.,,,, yes , excessive speed and load can increse the temp , however hes not off to silverstone , hes taking a drive up the motorway , this is within working conditions and your assuming hes going to be abusing the tyre , if he does hes a fool to himself , kindly show me anywhere in any posting here ive indicated he can drive it as normal , i can show you where ive stated he should take it steady , in other words your wrong again , distance has nothing to do with this and it would be wrong to assume it does , prelonged use of a space saver is not recommended but 150 miles isnt excessive

 

Picking and choosing the instructions and guidelines you wish to follow, and others you wish to dismiss is ignorance bud..... doesnt make any sence , ive answered all questions , ive read every letter

 

The benefits in this situation are next to nil. The potential for tragedy is far too high........ this is not based on fact , if i thought the op was in any danger at all i would say without a second thought , im not interested in having my ego massaged for the sake of face on the internet ! this isnt for my sake in so much as i dont like the instant attitude shown here without thought , but it is to inform the op that he will be safe to use the wheel as long as hes sensible and to disregard the miss infomation shown by some , this threads gone on long enough , i wont respond again as im fed up of the witch hunt

[scotty71]

Dont shoot the new guy, Izzzzy is only stating his view.

 

I would say that driving at no more than 50 mph would be fine on a space saver but traction control etc would be compromised. Driving like Miss Daisy would be the action. Excessive miles on a space saver? I would only drive on one if I really needed to and my journey was essential.

[edge]

No one has mentioned that probably all these space saver tyres you lot have in your supra's are nearly 15 years old.

When was the last time anyone had a new space saver tyre fitted?

I wouldn't drive on a 15 year old tyre no matter what size it is.

[dr_jekyll]

i was nearly killed by a spacesaver once.

 

i was trying ti fit a set of bike tyres on them for a laughf but they wouldnt mount so i put 140psi in it , when the tyre expoloded the rim jumped off the clamps staight at my face , but luckily i managed to get an arm in the way and escape with a broken wrist.

 

yup , dangerouse things those space savers if you abuse them

 

funny times

[Branners]

did a 140 mile of a space saver myself , straight line no real issues , braking well take it steady but its not bad , corners are to be taken as milk float speeds as you will be all over the shop at anything thats near pace , take it steady and you will be ok

 

So you happily say 'braking well take it steady but its not bad', so in an emergency stop you plan on taking it steady?

 

You then go on to further your stupidity by saying 'corners are to be taken as milk float speeds as you will be all over the shop'.

 

So which one of those statements show the car is safe to be used?

 

According to you, emergency braking will be dangerous and swerving to avoid something means you will be all over the shop.

 

My intention here is to show anybody searching for pointers as to how much you can rely on a spacesaver that they really cannot rely on it.

[Suprab1]

Sorry a little of topic but i thought these space savers had to be put on the back if you had uk brakes because they don't fit on the front?

 

Just asking because of the potential diff problems.