Jamesy Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Just wondered which will be the loudest and best performing? The HKS is a 3" bore whereas the RS*R is 2.5" I want it as loud as possible - had the HKS Super Drager on my old bpu and it was as quiet as stock - but have heard on a single its loud as hell. The RS*R is loud now, so will that get even louder on a single? If anyones driven a single with either (or both ) of these please let me know so i know which one to put on Muchos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 2.5" on a single? Are you sure having a high maintenence car is a good idea bud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 RS*R on single 61mm turbo, with screamer pipe (didn't think it was 2.5" though!): Quiet vid, turn volume up quite loud z9QSfkgrDBE If you want LOUD, go with a Boostlogic 4" one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted March 30, 2010 Author Share Posted March 30, 2010 (edited) 2.5" on a single? Are you sure having a high maintenence car is a good idea bud que????? the RS*R is 2.5" bore no? and people run single turbos with an RS*R....so what point are you making dude? Edited March 30, 2010 by Jamesy (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted March 30, 2010 Author Share Posted March 30, 2010 RS*R on single 61mm turbo, with screamer pipe (didn't think it was 2.5" though!): Quiet vid, turn volume up quite loud If you want LOUD, go with a Boostlogic 4" one. Nice so the RS*R is a 3" bore is it? im sure when i went to pick mine up from Wayne @ SPC it was a 2.5" bore..... Would love the BL one - but my DP and MP is 3". Given the choice i'd have Jamie's Ti one, but for now just curious as to the best and/or loudest out of the 2 i have at the minute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonkin Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Hi mate, ive got the Dragger on a T61. I love the sound of it, its definetly louder than the Dragger i had on my previous bpu supra. As with most Draggers, mine rotted around where the hanger was (not sure if they are stainless if you buy them these days or not?) Rather than replace it i had that section cut out, which also removed one of the silencers in the system, and had a stainless section welded in. Its been absolutely fine ever since. The car was very slightly louder after this, not a great deal, but noticeable if you had driven the car before. What i like about the Dragger is it can be quiet (ish) on motorway journeys at cruise within the car, but from what i have been told is quite loud outside and very loud when flooring it The only reason i will change it is when/if, nah when i fit a shine diffuser You would be more than welcome to pop over and come out in the car if you wanted to hear it as i dont think you are hugely far from me in Shere? Christian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Would love the BL one - but my DP and MP is 3". BL do an adapter so you can run a 3" DP with their 4" exhaust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin J Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 I have a Drager on my BPU, and I will want to change it I think - I have early starts and when you switch her on from cold it's pretty loud, and has a deep rumble which I'm sure the neighbours are not too appreciative of! I agree with Stonkin though, at motorway speeds I find it fine. It's only when starting up and accelerating (even at low speeds around the village) I find the noise is loud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted March 30, 2010 Author Share Posted March 30, 2010 Hi mate, ive got the Dragger on a T61. I love the sound of it, its definetly louder than the Dragger i had on my previous bpu supra. As with most Draggers, mine rotted around where the hanger was (not sure if they are stainless if you buy them these days or not?) Rather than replace it i had that section cut out, which also removed one of the silencers in the system, and had a stainless section welded in. Its been absolutely fine ever since. The car was very slightly louder after this, not a great deal, but noticeable if you had driven the car before. What i like about the Dragger is it can be quiet (ish) on motorway journeys at cruise within the car, but from what i have been told is quite loud outside and very loud when flooring it The only reason i will change it is when/if, nah when i fit a shine diffuser You would be more than welcome to pop over and come out in the car if you wanted to hear it as i dont think you are hugely far from me in Shere? Christian nice one thanx mate - if im ever near you i will give you a shout for a "listen"!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted March 30, 2010 Author Share Posted March 30, 2010 I have a Drager on my BPU, and I will want to change it I think - I have early starts and when you switch her on from cold it's pretty loud, and has a deep rumble which I'm sure the neighbours are not too appreciative of! I agree with Stonkin though, at motorway speeds I find it fine. It's only when starting up and accelerating (even at low speeds around the village) I find the noise is loud. Thanx mate - my super drager on my bpu was sooo quiet i hated it, but "if" its loud on a single it would interest me more. although i am thinking the RS*R will be even louder?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky49 Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 I have just ordered a HKS TI mate they seem a lovely bit of kit. I'd have Jamies of him if it was me it just came along a week to late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted March 30, 2010 Author Share Posted March 30, 2010 BL do an adapter so you can run a 3" DP with their 4" exhaust. OOOOO really?!?!?!!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 I wouldn't worry too much about whether the exhaust is loud enough, when the wastegate opens you will effectively have a 1 foot long exhaust loud enough to wake the dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 OOOOO really?!?!?!!? Yup. BL Adapter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 I must ask, why as loud as possible? are you a max power boy secretly jamesy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 The point I was making was having a 2.5" exhaust system in a single turbo supra is silly. Most people run 3" minimum and usually the 4" mark for the more serious installs. I'm surprised that you don't know this information even though you have been on here for a while and you are in fact going down this route. The lack of understanding and knowledge, as well as the lack of investigation on your part regarding what you are carrying out (hi stall, exhaust, etc) would make me worry that maintaining a single will cost a LOT of money due to not doing any of the work yourself. People can also tell you anything and you wouldn't know any different. FWIW I don't think your RSR is 2.5", I would be surprised if it is. Mine is the GT2 full stainless and it is 3.25". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul mac Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 i think its a bit misleading to think of a superdragger as a true 3" exhaust, yes the rear section is big but where it joins the second cat (or decat pipe) it narrows down to just under 2.5" (61mm from memory), i think this is one of the reasons they are relatively quiet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxluc Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 I have a HKS Super Dragger on mine. Nice sound ... and not too loud ... until external wastegate opens Little sound check Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted March 30, 2010 Author Share Posted March 30, 2010 I wouldn't worry too much about whether the exhaust is loud enough, when the wastegate opens you will effectively have a 1 foot long exhaust loud enough to wake the dead. sounds like heaven!!!!! I must ask, why as loud as possible? are you a max power boy secretly jamesy? Lol na mate i just like the sound of a loud deep powerful supra. Not a peco big bore 4 on a nova!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 I must ask, why as loud as possible? are you a max power boy secretly jamesy? I like loud, louder the better but if you want to do track days or Vmax type event then you are stuffed. I would not consider 2.5", id not go below 4" myself on a single turbo car but many will say 3" are fine, its just my opinion. I changed to 3" for a short while and it killed the performance on mine, felt so much slower in the higher gears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Oh dont get me wrong big man i do like loud But its like you just said, for trackdays etc your fucked. To be fair mate id say the exhaust housing becomes more of a restriction before a 3" setup but thats just my view Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 I can only tell it as i see it, 3" killed the performance on mine so i had to get rid and go back to a noisy 4", it felt so much slower i never kept it a week. Hopefully with Pauls help i have sorted it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlT67 Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 I wouldn't worry too much about whether the exhaust is loud enough, when the wastegate opens you will effectively have a 1 foot long exhaust loud enough to wake the dead. I agree, once the wastegate opens I cant hear anything other than that screaming, makes your ears bleed with the window down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted March 30, 2010 Author Share Posted March 30, 2010 The point I was making was having a 2.5" exhaust system in a single turbo supra is silly. Most people run 3" minimum and usually the 4" mark for the more serious installs. I'm surprised that you don't know this information even though you have been on here for a while and you are in fact going down this route. The lack of understanding and knowledge, as well as the lack of investigation on your part regarding what you are carrying out (hi stall, exhaust, etc) would make me worry that maintaining a single will cost a LOT of money due to not doing any of the work yourself. People can also tell you anything and you wouldn't know any different. FWIW I don't think your RSR is 2.5", I would be surprised if it is. Mine is the GT2 full stainless and it is 3.25". Erm ..... First off mate i've never claimed to be a mechanic of engine wizard. I am happy with the people i have around me working on my car and have full trust in them. I'd rather a specialst worked on it than bodging it myself. How do people learn about these sort of conversions without asking a few questions? All i was asking was if people had any experience of these 2 exhausts on a single - i mentioned 2.5" on the rsr as thats what i was told by SPC but if its bigger then great. Im not going into this with my eyes closed ive spent ages and ages researching it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted March 30, 2010 Author Share Posted March 30, 2010 Cheers fellas. Lee's gonna check the rsr when we take it apart, bu in the meantime i've got me eyes on a 4" backbox!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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