Kristian_Wraae Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 Since I live in a country where almost any kind of tuning is illegal (stupid Denmark!!!) I need some documentation to do an engine swap. I have a mkIII Supra and we are only allowed a 20% increase in power. So with stock 235 hp I'm allowed 282 hp. So I can swap in a JDM 2JZ-GTE. The only thing I need is a document stating that a Japanese MKIV has 280 hp. Does anyone have such a document? Or know where to get it? Anyone willing to share it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 Do they put cars they suspect onto a dyno? It might not work out so well for you if they do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristian_Wraae Posted March 23, 2010 Author Share Posted March 23, 2010 No they don't. The point is if there is documentation there is no need to dyno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 The JDM TT engine, is not normally 280hp, normally closer to 300 give or take 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristian_Wraae Posted March 23, 2010 Author Share Posted March 23, 2010 We pay a registration tax and all cars are valued. When they are valued the horsepower rating is recorded. The cars imported from Japan through the UK to Denmark are all listed in the central archives as having 280 hp. So I just need that information on a piece of paper. I assume the information must come from some official document for it to end up in the registration database. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 Have you tired contacting Toyota for it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 No they don't. The point is if there is documentation there is no need to dyno. Ahh I thought I read somewhere that they put them on the dyno if they suspect they are making more power than said. In that case why not just mod the hell out of the engine you have but keep it looking stock? Is that a loophole? As long as it looks stock and you have paperwork for the stock engine you can do what you like and it won't be dyno'd? Unfortunately I think such documentation is very rare. Your best chance would probably be the UK documents but they will quote 326 which is no use to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristian_Wraae Posted March 23, 2010 Author Share Posted March 23, 2010 Yes, but I haven't had any luck yet. But for those of you who have a JDM mkIV. Does the 280 hp appear anywhere on the UK or the Japanese documents? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristian_Wraae Posted March 23, 2010 Author Share Posted March 23, 2010 Ahh I thought I read somewhere that they put them on the dyno if they suspect they are making more power than said. In that case why not just mod the hell out of the engine you have but keep it looking stock? Is that a loophole? As long as it looks stock and you have paperwork for the stock engine you can do what you like and it won't be dyno'd? Unfortunately I think such documentation is very rare. Your best chance would probably be the UK documents but they will quote 326 which is no use to you. Well, I'd like a 2JZ-GTE. It is a better engine than the 7M. Prettier too. Also a stock 2JZ-GTE can be very potent with increased boost pressure and upgraded turbos. I would just assume that the 280 hp would appear somewhere for it to end up in the official documents i Denmark. Where else would they get it from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 Well, I'd like a 2JZ-GTE. It is a better engine than the 7M. Prettier too. Also a stock 2JZ-GTE can be very potent with increased boost pressure and upgraded turbos. I would just assume that the 280 hp would appear somewhere for it to end up in the official documents i Denmark. Where else would they get it from? What sort of documentation is required? Is a brochure for the Supra good enough or would something more be required? Would the fact that all Japanese cars were restricted to 276bhp during that time help? That is a well documented fact, of course they lied about the power they produced lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 Toyota themselves document the 280hp figure in their sales brochure for the jspec supra, which are available from Toyota (and many other places) to download. Would that be sufficient? Edit, as Scott said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristian_Wraae Posted March 23, 2010 Author Share Posted March 23, 2010 I think what would be needed is a registration stating the 280 hp. When I look up a JDM Supra here I get this: Art Personbil Mærke TOYOTA Model SUPRA Typebetegnelse 3,0 TURBO Registreret 1. gang 01/08-1993 Karosseri type / antal døre COUPE 3 døre Motor Cylindre 3000 cc 280 HK ventiler Gear / drivkraft / km 006 / BENZIN / 182000 KM Ekstraudstyr Vurderingsprisen afhænger af udstyrsniveau og køretøjets stand -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Værdiansat pr. 16/02-2007 Oprindelig nypris incl.afg. 0 Afgiftspligtig værdi 69000 Registreringsafgift 119175 Handelspris inkl. afgift 188175 You can see the 3000 cc and the 280 hk (hk = hp) The 280 hp must come from some kind of official document to end up in the archives. The eurospec MKIV's are listed as 330 hp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristian_Wraae Posted March 23, 2010 Author Share Posted March 23, 2010 Toyota themselves document the 280hp figure in their sales brochure for the jspec supra, which are available from Toyota (and many other places) to download. Would that be sufficient? Edit, as Scott said Maybe. Do you have any links? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 Maybe. Do you have any links? http://www.mkiv.com/specifications/ncf/ncf93/ Direct copies of the documents Toyota made for the JDM supra (pre-facelift) Edit, just realised this is for the export spec, not jspec for the TT... Page 77 shows the HP: http://www.mkiv.com/specifications/ncf/ncf93/ncf077.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristian_Wraae Posted March 23, 2010 Author Share Posted March 23, 2010 Yes. That page but for the jspec would do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 http://mkiv.supras.org.nz/specs.htm Summary but not what you're looking for, will keep checking, I'm certain the jspec pages have been posted here before (Nic???) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Twilight Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 Do you have the donor- vehicle's VIN number somewhere? TÜV can write you a offical test certificate which states all the EU legislation directives and clarifies that the JDM MKIV Supra TT- will pass them. Inlcluding the engine details, emissions and output. Common problem in Finland since the JDM- model was not certified for EU market, like the Export model was. Basically its the same car, but you need a offical document which clarifies this. If the offical brochures or technical details wont work in Denmark, that would be the offical solution for it. It is something around 200-300,00 EUR for the document. I can help you with TÜV details if necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristian_Wraae Posted March 23, 2010 Author Share Posted March 23, 2010 Exactly. I just need the documentation for the horsepower and then a TÜV document for emission which I will pay for myself. The only problem I have is the official documentation for the 280 hp. Then I'm set. Any help will be highly appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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